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Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:46 pm

We'll be travelling through Mexico to Panama for a coupla months starting later this year.

Are there any cool, old aircraft that I could fly aboard - cheaply - from any Central American capital as a day trip?

Thanks.

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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:51 pm

There are F27's, BAC1-11, Let 410's, manky old DC-9's still floating around in that part of the world. Also Shorts of various descriptions (360's for sure, possibly 330's too). Have a hunt around on Amadeus.net
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:54 pm

Yeah doing some searching now.

Found Islena (Honduras). They did have Shorts 360's, but seem to only have ATR's now.  Sad
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:59 pm

Try looking for routes between secondary cities like Roatan, San Pedro Sula, Antigua, Tikal and secondary cities in Nicaragua, and Belize. More likely to find older, wierder aircraft on less busy routes.
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:05 pm

Atlantic Airlines apparently has F27s and L-410s as well as 732s. Flown on lots of 732s but never either prop. Any idea what sectors the props op?

http://www.atlanticairlinesint.com/html/itinerario_y_tarifas.php
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:59 am

Anything worth going out of the way for in Costa Rica?
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:34 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
Atlantic Airlines apparently has F27s and L-410s as well as 732s. Flown on lots of 732s but never either prop. Any idea what sectors the props op?

And Fairchild Hiller FH-227!!!

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 5):
Anything worth going out of the way for in Costa Rica?

Well, there are a pair of Britten Norman BN2 Islanders, a pair of Gippsland and many Cessna Grand Caravan.

In Guatemala you can fly in the last airline operating for passenger the Nord 262 (RACSA - Rutas Aereas Centro Americanas). Interesting, no?  Wow!

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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:33 pm

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6):
Britten Norman BN2 Islanders, a pair of Gippsland and many Cessna Grand Caravan.

Off-topic, but these can also be flown on 01-DEC-2007 from Emden to the island of Borkum (Germany) made available through airevents.com

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
Are there any cool, old aircraft that I could fly

Any DC-3 still flying pax ?
Last I heard, the C-46's Commandoo's were restricted to haul cargo, but might be an option to ask for a ride. $$$ make many things possible in that part of the world.

Plus: Try to get into contact with PRGDLGUY. IIRC he had been doing some unusual flying in that part of the world not too long ago.
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:21 pm

Last month was in Guatemala and Honduras prop hunting. My conclusions were not too bright

* TACA Regional flies Shorts 360s in Honduras, I think Panama and Nicaragua too. I flew the Shorts 360 of Islena between Tegucigalpa, San Pedro Sula and La Ceiba
* Unfortunately NO FH-227s are flying anymore. In Honduras, Air Atlantic and Aerolineas Sosa each officially have one Fairchild F-27 in their fleets but unfortunately they don't fly much. Most domestic flights are done with the Let-410s. They both told me they'd fly the F-27 in December and next high season (june?). Air Atlantic flies a 737-200 though, on for instance La Ceiba-Georgetown Cayman Islands
* Air Panama has F-27s.
* Tikal of Guatemala has ceased operations. Their BAC 1-11s were gone in 2003 already
* RACSA (and Aerolineas Sosa) also quited the Nord 262
* No commercial DC-3s and C-46s in central America. The Guatemalan Air Force has some, and IAI Arava's and other rare museum pieces.
* Venezuela still has some commercial pax DC-3s, DC-9s, 737s, 727s etc, Ecuador has 727s, F-28s and 737s, maybe even C-130 Herculeses used for pax flights, Peru: F-27, An-24, Bolivia: 727, Convair 580, so that might be the better places to go.
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:10 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
Are there any cool, old aircraft that I could fly aboard - cheaply - from any Central American capital as a day trip?

You could fly Air Panama on an SJO-PTY flight. They operate a fleet of a handful F-27s, although they've been introducing the Dash-8Q300 recently. They also operate Twotters and Islanders, but those probably fly domestic flights in Panama, as I've never seen them at SJO.

http://www.flyairpanama.com/

Another alternative would be Nature Air out of SYQ (you could stop by my place, I live very close to SYQ   ) to domestic destinations in Costa Rica. Their fleet is mostly of Twotters with Vistaliner conversion (hence bigger windows), plus some of the airfields they serve tend to have spectacular approaches.

http://www.natureair.com/

Or, if you're very desperate, you could try to jumpseat on one of ER's 727s that fly in and out of SJO and PTY if possible.  Wink ER operates them through Aeroexpreso from Panama.

Quoting HT (Reply 7):
Any DC-3 still flying pax ?

I believe not. To my knowledge, RZ was the last PAX operator of DC-3s in the region. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:14 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6):

THanks for the info. For the BN2 Id most likely take Winair next time im in the Caribbean. C208 is cool, but nothing I couldnt get stateside.
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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:05 am

If you count Cuba as central America, you could get on Il-62, Yak-42, An-26 and maybe Il-18.

Quoting MEA-707" class=quote target=_blank>MEA-707 (Reply 8):
Venezuela still has some commercial pax DC-3s

Interesting to hear DC-3 in commercial pax. There are not many still flying. I think there are few in Congo.

How many BAC-111 still flying pax? MEA-707 mentioned that Tikal retired them in 2003. Is there any other airline still flying BAC-111 in Central America or anywhere in the world?

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RE: Cool, Old Aircraft To Fly In Central America?

Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:31 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
They did have Shorts 360's


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