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What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircrafts?

Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:23 pm

Hello all,

Let's make it short : let's imagine that I'm about to realise my dream => become an airline pilot BUT, right from the beginning (training), I'm asked to choose between a narrow-body network (A320 range) or wide-body network (A330/A340 range/MD-11?).

When it comes to being a job, what are the benefits/inconveniences of flying on a narrow-body or wide-body network ? I would assume the narrow-body network to be more stressfull because of the numerous short flights done in one day while the wide-body network would appear to be more tiring because of the time-lag.

These are only assumptions  laughing , I've indeed never had the chance to speak with a pilot about these questions, therefore the "naive"  innocent  tone of my post...

Thank you in advance for your ideas.

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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:07 pm

I guess Wilco737 could answer that question very well...

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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:40 pm

Hi!

I can tell you my experience. I was very sceptical regarding flights over the Atlantic on a narrow-body jet until I had to fly CO from LIS to EWR. Actually I had a great flight, quite confortable in a 757-200ER!!! But....I think, if I can, I would always direct my bookings to a wide-body airplane...and if I can choose those ones that I've never flew even better! I have a "special affection" for the 767....I really had one of the most confortable rides in my life in one 767-300!!! I'll never forget that day, it was really special, we came on a red-eye flight from LAX to JFK with UA, we arrived JFK 7:00 AM went to Manhattan with my wife and my 2 boys ( at that time...now I have an "extra girl"!!! ), visited Empire State, Statue of Liberty and the Twin Towers, went back to JFK and flew to LGW with BA and that wonderful 767-336ER G-BNWR with "Chelsea Rose" livery! I remember that before we boarded we saw with our kids a BA Concorde so close to us and an old 747-136, G-AWNB that I think it was doing the very last flight before it was WFU! 4 Days latter still recovering from our long trip we saw the news that a SR MD11 had crashed almost in the same path we flew a few days earlier...and we felt very, very bad!
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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:58 pm



Quoting A300605R (Reply 1):
guess Wilco737 could answer that question very well...

That is true, he first flew the 737s, and now MD11s. Think he will go back in a few year to narrow body a/cs!!!
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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:54 pm

I would avoid narrowbodies given the choice, which is actually quite easy living on the West Coast. Given that most smaller cities in Europe require one stop from SEA, I'd rather fly to AMS, FRA, CDG, CPH, or LHR and then take a short hop. To me that beats a long 757 flight to NYC, followed by a long 757 flight to Europe any day.

I prefer the widebodies, especially A330 and 767 since in economy there's fewer middle seats, much more overhead space, more room to walk around (and hang out for a few minutes), and faster boarding/de-boarding.
 
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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:47 pm



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 4):



Quoting CV990 (Reply 2):

I think he's asking from a pilot's perspective.

Keep in mind that virtually all airlines are seniority-based. The actual pilots on the boards can probably elaborate on what this means better than I can.
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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:35 pm



Quoting Bok269 (Reply 5):

I think he's asking from a pilot's perspective.

Thats what I thought as well

I am NOT a pilot but I suppose flying narrow-bodies you get to see your family more often?
 
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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:58 am



Quoting Bok269 (Reply 5):
I think he's asking from a pilot's perspective.



Quoting Ag92 (Reply 6):
Thats what I thought as well

Hi, got it, I was indeed interested in the "pilot's" perspective.

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 5):
The actual pilots on the boards can probably elaborate on what this means better than I can.

That's what I was hoping for but, actually, I am pleased reading all posts.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 6):
I suppose flying narrow-bodies you get to see your family more often?

You got it, I am slowly leaning on the narrow-body network side, because of my friend and maybe because I hear often that flying on a narrow-body network basis is actually more exciting. Once again, these are only assumptions.

Thanks anyway.

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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:04 am

Hmmm, no pilots available to give their point of views ? Please please...
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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:12 am



Quoting A300605R (Reply 1):
I guess Wilco737 could answer that question very well...

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Quoting GearDownPlease (Thread starter):
When it comes to being a job, what are the benefits/inconveniences of flying on a narrow-body or wide-body network ?

I will keep it short as well! on the 737 (where I have been) you do a lot of actually flying! Up to 5 flights a day, many take offs and landings, always stress to stay in your schedule, short ground times, delays, flying faster thus louder in the cockpit, nice stopovers in familar aeras, SHORT layovers, sometimes only 12 hours (who needs sleep) ?

Long haul in a wide body. Now I am flying MD11Fs. Everything is a little slower... You wont touch anything of the paperwork until you have reached your cruising level, and you have a lot of time do prepare your approach and do all the papwerwork, you have enough time to eat, drink (NON alcohol of course Big grin), BUT on the other hand: LONG flights, jetlags, sleeping will be difficult sometimes, red eye flights, everything can get pretty much F***** up...

Airplanewise: Well, I LOVE the 737! It was so much fun flying with her! its a great airplane, small cockpit though. Long haul, bigger aircrafts, yeah, you can say HEAVY while talking to ATC, but who cares  Wink And you have a nice overview from up there when on the ground, in the air, nobody cares again  Wink

Oh and of course: FLying a big bird you get higher chances that A.net spotter actually point their camera at you! Big grin Big grin

I flew 3 years 737s and now roughly a year MD11Fs. I must say: I miss the FLYING! I am more traveling around the world, doing a landing every once in a while... As a beginning I would suggest: go short haul and learn all that stuff, I mean flying, landing, the operation etc etc... Once you are on long haul, you will get rusty automatically!
Oh, and in EVERY aircraft using a Flight director, there is a buttong to switch it off: DO it from time to time in order not to get too rusty too soon Big grin

I hope that helped you a bit making your decision...

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RE: What To Choose: Fly Narrow Or Wide-body Aircra

Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:31 am

I have only been on narrow bodies and regional aircraft. The biggest plane I was on was a 757. I would love to have an opportunity to take a widebody aircraft like the 767s, or even the really widebodies like the 777, 747, or A330-340
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