orlando666
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NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:51 pm

NWA services transatlantic by 752's - how does eco/biz compare with the A330 product?
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:03 pm

By most measures the A330 is superior - primarily due to IFE and cabin size.

The A330 is a widebody obviously and therefore appears to be more spacious than a 757.
The A330 has PTVs in every seat with the AVOD (video-on-demand) system.

The 757 just has overhead-drop-down LCD screens.
Seat pitch is actually greater on the 757 than the A330 in coach and there is more legroom since there is no under-seat IFE box.
The A330 WBC seat (world business class) is near-lie flat wheras the 757 is not.

Meal & service offerings are identical.

I did the 75A once, and I personally I prefer the A330. I do know some people who could care less and I'm sure there may even be some who prefer the 75A.
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:20 pm

I would personally take the extra seat pitch.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:29 pm

NO airline that use the B757 for transatlantic ops has a lie-flat seat in business. You just don't have the room, maybe 8 or 10 lie-flat without moving the mid galley and lav back. Also, fly to citys that a widebody a/c would loose money ( NWA's DTW-DUS , BDL-AMS, and CO's EWR-BRS).
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:30 pm



Quoting Nwab787techops (Reply 3):
BDL-AMS

I heard they were considering a widebody for that flight.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:37 pm



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 4):


Quoting Nwab787techops (Reply 3):
BDL-AMS

I heard they were considering a widebody for that flight.
Blue

That's amazing! I never thought that BDL-AMS would survive. I never expected the demand would be there. I guess they are able to get pax from the N.NYC metro area that don't want to truck down to EWR/JFK.
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:53 pm

I've flown them both and it depends on what your looking for. If you want IFE and a plug for your laptop, take the A330. If you just want to be comfortable (as much as possible for 3-3 seating) and take the increased seat pitch, take the 757. Both are decent a/c, but I prefer the A330 because it's just one seat mate when you have a window compared to 2. Plus I like to plug my laptop in. Don't really know about WBC.
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:26 pm



Quoting Lobster (Reply 6):
If you want IFE and a plug for your laptop, take the A330. If you just want to be comfortable (as much as possible for 3-3 seating) and take the increased seat pitch, take the 757.

So take the 75A eastbound and sleep the whole time and take the 330 back and have fun with the IFE... sounds like a good plan (and a chance to sample both).
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:32 am



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
So take the 75A eastbound and sleep the whole time

Just hope you either:

A) Don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to let out either your middle seat or window seat seatmate to go to the lav.

or

B) Don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to let yourself out of the window or middle seat.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:29 pm



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 8):
Just hope you either:

A) Don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to let out either your middle seat or window seat seatmate to go to the lav.

It's no worse than a 777.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:43 pm



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 9):
It's no worse than a 777.

With 777's you have a 5 in 9 chance of getting a bad seat. That's a 55% chance.
With 757's you have a 4 in 6 chance of getting a bad seat. That's a 67% chance.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:15 pm



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 10):
With 777's you have a 5 in 9 chance of getting a bad seat. That's a 55% chance.
With 757's you have a 4 in 6 chance of getting a bad seat. That's a 67% chance.

Of course, it all depends on how you define bad seat... if you like aisles, you have a better shot with a widebody. If you like windows, the 75 is your bird. If you hate middle seats, connect in ATL.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:03 am



Quoting Nwab787techops (Reply 3):
NO airline that use the B757 for transatlantic ops has a lie-flat seat in business.

Sorry, that's not correct. You're overlooking New York-based all-business class carrier Eos Airlines that operates 22 nonstops a week in each direction between JFK and London Stansted on four 757-200s. They have lie-flat seats in a very spacious 48-seat layout. Click the "Photo Album" link on the following page for several photos of the seats.
http://www.eosairlines.com/flyeos/overview/difference.jsf
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:59 am

I like the NW 757A's. I wouldn't prefer them to a A330, but if I wanted to fly from DTW-DUS, I would fly direct, not via AMS. Firstly, although the 75A is 3-3, there is hardly a full flight in coach. Most of the WBC are taken though. Thus, usually it's just aisle and window seats, and some rows/sides have only one passenger so you get all three seats. The seats are really supportive and the IFE isn't bad. The food is pretty good on NW TATL flights.

I like the A330 product too. It's roomier and you can walk in circles if that's what you like to do. Also the plugs, which are only in the front foward cabin of Y.

Both a pretty good.
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:38 am

Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 4):
I heard they were considering a widebody for that flight.

Cool!

Quoting ORDagent (Reply 5):
That's amazing! I never thought that BDL-AMS would survive. I never expected the demand would be there. I guess they are able to get pax from the N.NYC metro area that don't want to truck down to EWR/JFK.

I would rather spend a little more money to leave out of BDL with a connection in AMS than have a direct flight out of JFK or EWR. BDL is so much easier to deal with than NY/NJ. Short customs line, at your car in 5 minutes, home in 40.

As a matter of fact, I am trying to get my parents to go BDL-AMS-WAW this year. It is actually a little cheaper than JFK-WAW on LO.

[Edited 2008-02-08 19:38:49]
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:06 pm



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 4):
I heard they were considering a widebody for that flight.
Blue

Your rumor is the first I have heard of that!!! Where did you hear that, anywhere credible?
 
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RE: NWA Transatlantic 757's

Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:22 pm

Thought I would ask this question in here instead of just starting a new thread:

Flying from NYC-AMS I have the option of flying on a KL 747 or the NW 757. Simply, which flight should I take? I'll be flying in coach.

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