ryanrap1
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My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:06 pm

If I could start my own Airline it would be named Transcon Airlines, and have a
fleet of only BAE Systems Avro 146-RJ85A and base out of Orlando. My first
destinationes would be:
MCO-ATL
MCO-FLL
MCO-BTR
MCO-MSY
MCO-SAT
MCO-Nashville.
Do you think that would be a pretty successful airline, I would love your
opinion.
 
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:10 pm

Nashville = BNA

Mx and spares may be a bit more challenging than other options due to your geographic location. Other than that, the 146-200/RJ85 are workhorse aircraft built in the "over-engineered" fashion of yesteryear. Your aircraft certainly wouldn't give too many problems.

[Edited 2008-06-02 14:11:46]
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:11 pm

In current market conditions, I would not have good hope for any new airline unless they had alot of cash, operated very economical aircraft and operated profit generating routes. Not too sure if the 145/RJ85 is the most economical..............plus theres probably a fair bit of competiton on those routeS?
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:11 pm

Man... You must be so bored..
 
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:15 pm

Ahhh, fantasies fantasies... Why the BAe 146? Why would you select those routes? Do you have insight into the market potential to those respective cities from MCO? Perhaps it could fly as a virtual airline   . Also, you might wanna think of renaming it lol. None of those routes live up to the namesake. Maybe IntraCon? haha cheers,

[Edited 2008-06-02 14:16:59]
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:20 pm

Someone will point out the fuel consumption issue with 4 engines and the fact that old airplanes usually are not the solution to start-up problems.

Not sure where the MCO-SAT O&D is coming from, but at over 1,000 miles, that route would be pushing the airplane.
 
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:29 pm

You know, I have been tempted to start a thread about what you would do if you had your own airline. I would hub mine in BOS! I don't know if MCO has that much O&D unless you are connecting pax. If you had wanted to expand it across the country then MCO would not make a good hub.
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:30 pm

MCO creates its own O&D through all the tourist attractions, however tourists are very low yielding, compared to people paying to sit at the front and sip champers.
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:59 pm



Quoting Ryanrap1 (Thread starter):
Do you think that would be a pretty successful airline, I would love your
opinion.

If you have Flight Sim and have the payware add-on FS Passengers, you can create your own company and see how it fares.
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:54 am



Quoting WAH64D (Reply 3):
Other than that, the 146-200/RJ85 are workhorse aircraft built in the "over-engineered" fashion of yesteryear. Your aircraft certainly wouldn't give too many problems.

While I love the 146, it's not really too good maintenance-wise (well, the engines aren't). It's nickname is 'Bring Another Engine', or something like that.

Could be fun to have an airline though...

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RE: My Own Airline :)

Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:42 pm

I've often wondered about using an A310 or 767 ex YVR via YYZ to EDI and STN, possibly DUB or ORK. Maybe continue on to HNL or OGG when the fleet grows.
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:02 pm

I'd have a fleet of 10 Tupolev 154's flying out of LGW to destinations around the UK and Europe, and a couple of Concorde's to fly transatlantic in an all business configuration  Yeah sure

Well, this is a fantasy, right?  Wink
 
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:17 pm



Quoting Ryanrap1 (Thread starter):
Transcon Airlines

Wouldn't you need some transcon flights for that? The only one that remotely qualifies is SAT..

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Thread starter):
fleet of only BAE Systems Avro 146-RJ85A

You are gonna need a LOT of gas... but they are VERY cool aircraft

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Thread starter):
base out of Orlando

Lots of competition and your fare structure is not gonna leave much room for a profit.. especially with the gas required for the aircraft of choice..

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Thread starter):
MCO-ATL
MCO-FLL
MCO-BTR
MCO-MSY
MCO-SAT
MCO-Nashville.

ATL - Delta and AirTran competition.. Ohh.. that's gonna be ROUGH
BTR - You might can charge higher fares on that one..
MSY - Southwest on that one.. Ohh.. that's gonna hurt BAD
SAT - Southwest on that one.. Ohh.. it's gonna hemorrage
BNA - Southwest on that one.. See the running theme?

I will say, I do wish you luck.. perhaps you can make it.. but your fare structure is gonna have to be pretty significant to cover your costs..
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:56 pm

Unless you power your planes some alternative fuel, I wouldn't say this is a good time to start a new airline.  Wink
 
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:55 pm

If you were a Low-Fare Airline I would fly Transcon (I normally Fly out of MCO)
I would prefer A Larger aircraft though
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RE: My Own Airline :)

Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:50 pm

I'd have an airline based out of SYR and serve most of the upstate NY cities. Including Watertown, Plattsburg, Utica, ELM, ALB, ROC, BUH, ITH, and NYC.

Smaller aricraft with multiple legs to each city. Not sure how much profit it would turn.


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RE: My Own Airline :)

Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:23 pm

Dump the 146's way too expensive, change the name to Inter-State-Air, (ISA) look for some used B717 or A318's. Then look for some good long routes, if you have to have MCO as a home base, what about MCO/YVR/YYC/SEA/PDX the 318's will do easy.

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RE: My Own Airline :)

Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:31 am



Quoting Toptravel (Reply 16):
look for some used B717 or A318's.

Good Luck

I think you'd be better off leasing 737NG/A32S frames. There would be a few available can easily do transcon's with a respectable CASM. But otherwise now is a really bad time for a new startup.


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