tramway
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Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:42 pm

I'm after some advice, I'm travelling to HKG next year and can fly on either Qatar or Finnair. Can anyone recommend either? I will be travelling in Y class. I travelled with Eithad earlier in the year and was disappointed as the foot rest were really uncomfortable as they restricted the seat pitch.

Anyway any advice comments are welcome.

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:54 am

Finnair... Heard many positive things about them.

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:16 am

I have travelled on neither and I really only keep current on the various premium products in the industry because most airlines don't give a whole lot of information/visual depiction of the economy product. Off the bat I would say Qatar because the bar for their premium service is quite a bit higher; but, as I have heard horror stories with Y on EK, that may not be the best indicator. Good luck, fly safe, and let us know how it works out in the end.


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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:07 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
Finnair... Heard many positive things about them.

Ever flew with them?  Wink
In general my experience with AY longhaul is slightly on the negative side... not going into details.

I would go for QR... Heard many positive things about them. Big grin

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:21 am

Qatar without a doubt.
Finnair is not bad but Qatar is great!
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:27 am



Quoting DABZF (Reply 3):
Ever flew with them? Wink

No.

Interesting how different opinions can be. I haven't heard many good things about QR yet.

Quoting DABZF (Reply 3):
If you haven't flown either one of the previously... flip a coin twocents

Seems to be a good idead  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:33 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):
Interesting how different opinions can be. I haven't heard many good things about QR yet.

New airplanes, good service, good food and nice IFE is my experience.
The only bad thing I can think about is that Doha airport is a bit boring.
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:38 am



Quoting PlaneWasted (Reply 6):
New airplanes, good service, good food and nice IFE is my experience.

New planes, yes. From the service side I heard not so good things. Unfriendly F/As, food very simple and not very delicious.
Looks like experiences can be very different...

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:50 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 7):
Unfriendly F/As

Anyone ever met a friendly (Finnish) AY F/A?
I've met 1... and I think the only reason for the friendliness was that I'm a staff of an airline (maybe that is a reason not to be friendly to me, I'm always friendly to them though - IMOO?) where her husband was working as a pilot...  Wink

Off topic: By the way WILCO... Friendliest and most service minded "F/A" I ever had a on a flight was a LCAG M1F captain  Silly
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:53 am



Quoting DABZF (Reply 8):
Anyone ever met a friendly (Finnish) AY F/A?

I bet there are some Big grin I should try AY once and enjoy MD11 as a passenger  Wink

Quoting DABZF (Reply 8):
Off topic: By the way WILCO... Friendliest and most service minded "F/A" I ever had a on a flight was a LCAG M1F captain Silly

Yeah, most of them are great. And they serve you food and bring you drinks as well. Big grin But never forget: he is your boss!

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:17 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 9):
enjoy MD11 as a passenger

...you wont enjoy that in AY MD-11...  silly 

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 9):
But never forget: he is your boss!

... well techically not my boss but boss of the aircraft for sure... and do not help the crew by opening the doors yourself  Wow!
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:24 am



Quoting DABZF (Reply 8):
Anyone ever met a friendly (Finnish) AY F/A?

 Big grin Yes she was really nice and friendly. Big grin

On QR you can flay the A340-600 to HKG and on AY the MD-11. Both great aircrafts you can enjoy!  Smile
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:40 am



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 11):
On QR you can flay the A340-600 to HKG and on AY the MD-11. Both great aircrafts you can enjoy! Smile

 box  A340-600 good aircraft? How very dare you?  duck   faint 

MD-11  cloudnine   cloudnine   yes   thumbsup   praise 

On a more seirous note: I've been several times on the A340-600. Usually was sitting row 14 or further to the front. Pretty quiet in there (but maybe far away from the engines). Otherwise nothing special.
On the other hand, there aren't many MD11s left you can fly with, and I bet the A346 will be around a little longer  Wink

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:22 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 11):
Yes she was really nice and friendly.

... you got my point Big grin Big grin

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 11):
On QR you can flay the A340-600 to HKG and on AY the MD-11.

... but AY flies A340 to HKG...

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 11):
Both great aircrafts you can enjoy!

... the other takes off like a rocket... and the other one takes off only because of the curvature of earth... very different kind of enjoyment.  silly 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:02 pm



Quoting DABZF (Reply 13):
... you got my point

 bigthumbsup 

Quoting DABZF (Reply 13):
... but AY flies A340 to HKG...

How boring! Big grin

Quoting DABZF (Reply 13):
... the other takes off like a rocket... and the other one takes off only because of the curvature of earth... very different kind of enjoyment.

But a empty 340 is not bad either especially since you don´t expect it.  Smile

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 12):
A340-600 good aircraft? How very dare you?

 Big grin Isn´t it? I havn´t flown it yet.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 12):
and I bet the A346 will be around a little longer

Well that bet could go the other way around as well.  Smile
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:36 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 14):
Big grin Isn´t it? I havn´t flown it yet.

Yeah, I think I have to admit: the A346 isn't bad. But shhhh, don't tell anybody I said that Big grin
I'd pick the MD11 over any airbus anyday!!!

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:21 pm

I think I would choose Qatar, just because of their reputation, never tried though... but AY's new long haul product isn't bad either. And probably HEL offers more comfortable transit than DOH.

In June I flew on Finnair's A340 (ICN-HEL in Y) for the first time and I was happily surprised: the new thin Recaro seat was comfortable actually, good leg room and a modern wide screen AVOD with some extra services, it was cool the send sms to friends.

A couple of shots on AY A340:
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AY's meals are nothing to write home about, I am sure Qatar's better there.

Quoting DABZF (Reply 8):
Anyone ever met a friendly (Finnish) AY F/A?

Actully yes, they have been friendly most of the times lately, I think that has improved.
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:09 pm



Quoting Andaman (Reply 16):
Actully yes, they have been friendly most of the times lately, I think that has improved.

... Hasn't improved in European flights IMHO.
Maybe just maybe I will try AY again on my Australia trip this autumn... half way there (or back) that is as they do not go all the way.
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:33 pm

Quoting DABZF (Reply 17):
... Hasn't improved in European flights IMHO.

My experiences mainly from the long haul flights lately, noticed the crews are younger and friendlier than they used to be, and I like they have Asian flight attendants too.

[Edited 2008-07-07 10:38:47]
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:52 pm



Quoting DABZF (Reply 8):

Anyone ever met a friendly (Finnish) AY F/A?

Yes, many.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):
I haven't heard many good things about QR yet.

Same here.

I would absolutely go with AY. If youre lucky you might catch the MD11, one of the last chances to fly one. Also, HEL is a very convenient airport for transit (as opposed to DOH), and if you get AY's A340s, I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Ive heard nothing but good things about them.
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:28 pm



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 19):
If youre lucky you might catch the MD11

I would called it bad luck  Wink not a fan of AY MD-11, a lot more comfortable Y cabin on A340 I think, to HKG they use A340.
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:09 pm



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 15):
Yeah, I think I have to admit: the A346 isn't bad. But shhhh, don't tell anybody I said that

I won´t. Big grin

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 19):
Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):
I haven't heard many good things about QR yet.

Same here.

I would absolutely go with AY. If youre lucky you might catch the MD11, one of the last chances to fly one. Also, HEL is a very convenient airport for transit (as opposed to DOH), and if you get AY's A340s, I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Ive heard nothing but good things about them.

Well I have been on QR several times and I have transitted through DOH and I never had a bad expeierence. However I once had a very slow crew but it was ok.
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:05 am

Heard that lots of people keep saying negative things about Finnair and also Finnair's inflight meals weren't good (saw the photos of them in a.net trip report)! But i would like to fly on a Finnair MD-11.

QR is good...and i would like to fly on it one day.

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:08 am

Looks like you really have to flip a coin....  Wink Or just go for the best connetion/ fare... Or just pick which do you think is best for you.

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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:00 pm

Thanks for all the advise. Think i'm going to go with Finnair as the flight times are better and they don't have foot rests (my pet hate!)

Thanks Tramway
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:18 pm

Finnair has a 1hr 20min transfer time on flight from MAN - isn't this a bit close??
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:58 am

AY via HEL is more than 1000 miles shorter than QR via DOH. meaning at least 2 to 3 hours less travel time. HEL is much closer to the great circle route.

LHR-HEL-HKG 5223 nm (vs. LHR-HKG nonstop 5209 nm)
LHR-DOH-HKG 6237 nm
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:35 pm



Quoting Tramway (Reply 25):
Finnair has a 1hr 20min transfer time on flight from MAN - isn't this a bit close??

Not at all, provided your MAN-HEL doesn't experience a major delay, but AY has a very reliable shorthaul operation in my experience, so you should be fine. HEL isn't a large airport, walking distances are short. 1:20 is more than you need under normal circumstances.
 
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:01 pm



Quoting Tramway (Reply 25):
Finnair has a 1hr 20min transfer time on flight from MAN - isn't this a bit close??

Absolutely not, if I have made it through LHR in just under an hour, that will be more than enough. And I think AY is a good chose
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RE: Qatar Or Finnair To HKG

Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:42 pm



Quoting Tramway (Reply 25):
Finnair has a 1hr 20min transfer time on flight from MAN - isn't this a bit close??

80 min is fine, you don't even have to leave the non-Schengen terminal. Remember to write a TR  Wink
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