varig_dc10
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KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:36 pm

There is a chance that I might need to travel to Delhi in the next couple of weeks as part of my job.

Recently my employer has introduced a new policy where we get to travel business if we are travelling 8 hours or more each way and you are staying less than a week.

When I've looked at the possible routes I could take from NCL or MME, I noticed KLM fly the MD-11 from AMS to Delhi.

What is KLM business class like on the MD-11, would you recommend it?


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In economy, I always found that the food on Air France was slightly better than KLM. So I was thinking of flying out on KLM's MD-11, then coming back on an AF A340.

What is AF like for business class?

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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:20 pm

KLM on the MD11 has old school C class, like in the picture. Way more comfy than the new Teflon slides they installed next. It is however a product out of the dark ages. If given a choice, I would choose AF in a heartbeat.

But given you are travelling from the UK you are a complete idiot if you dont fly BA instead.
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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:22 pm

If money was no object, I probably would go for BA Business. But when I travel with work, you have to get three quotes. I've just done a search on Amedeus for dates in August, the prices were as follows;

KLM from £1466
EK from £1221
BA from £3733
AF from £2073

Obviously the prices may change depending on the travel date. But it is unlikely that I'll get BA cheaper than KLM.

What is EK business like?

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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:00 pm

Pretty amazing if you are in their new product. Not sure about the old one, but must be better than KLM...  Smile
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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:56 pm



Quoting Henkybaby (Reply 1):
KLM on the MD11 has old school C class, like in the picture.

Incorrect. There are a few (PH-KCG for sure) that have the new seat (772/A332).
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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:42 am



Quoting Varig_dc10 (Thread starter):
What is KLM business class like on the MD-11, would you recommend it?

Absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt!
Back To My Roots: KLM World Business Class (pics)

Quoting Varig_dc10 (Thread starter):
What is AF like for business class?

Air France: The Best Place On Earth? (pics)

My personal preference is for KLM over AF and either airline over BA or VS anyday of the week! Its not all about who has the flatest beds in the sky, its about the overall package and in my opinion KLM's cabin crew outshine any other European airline!

Hope these trip reports help you out with your decision.

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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:43 am

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 5):
and in my opinion KLM's cabin crew outshine any other European airline!

I agree 100% with that statement. However, read the reviews of KLM seats at www.flatseats.com and you will be astonished. So notwithstanding the respect I have for the KLM cabin crew and the love for my own airline, their business class product is (objectively) below par.

If you have AF and EK as alternatives, I suggest you use the site I mentioned to get more insights.

KLM
AF
EK

Looks like you need to avoid EK like the plague, by the way...

[Edited 2008-07-18 01:46:53]

[Edited 2008-07-18 01:47:37]
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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:09 pm



Quoting Henkybaby (Reply 6):
So notwithstanding the respect I have for the KLM cabin crew and the love for my own airline, their business class product is (objectively) below par.

I must agree. Did AMS to Aruba on MD11, 9+ hours the seat is uncomfortable and sleep never happened. For that long journey pay the extra and go with BA, you WILL thank yourself.  Wink
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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:39 pm

I believe there actually is a C class fare with KLM for EUR 1493,- from NCL. Found it with KVS. That is dirt-cheap...

You could also do OS or AY within your price range (from LHR).
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RE: KLM Business Class On The MD-11

Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:56 am

Thanks everyone for the information.

SR 103, those trip reports are very detailed and very useful.

Regards,
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