HeyWhaTheHay
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Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/delays

Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:33 pm

If you listen to the ATC, the MAJOR airport that rarely encounters problems??


The MAJOR airport with the LEAST:

ground movement problems
wind changes
runway changes
intersecting runways delays
weather
gate restrictions
approach and departure difficulties
malfunctioning ILS equipment..
ATC personel problems
...etc.etc..

I have my choice, but I would love to hear your opinions and reasons.

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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:39 pm

I would think that IAH, DFW, and DEN are up there for the least amount of delays for busy airports. Sure, IAH and DFW get some summer thunderstorms but they are usually able to get back to normal pretty quickly since none of them have intersecting runways.

DEN biggest problem is probably the snow in the winter but there isn't much you can do about that. When the shit hits the fan, all airports will experience problems.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:51 pm



Quoting CO18Heavy (Reply 1):
DEN biggest problem is probably the snow in the winter but there isn't much you can do about that. When the shit hits the fan, all airports will experience problems.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Well thats kind of what Im getting at. Thing is, some airports just DON'T have weather delays, atleast compared to the rest of the country. I could name a few , but I'll leave that up to you guys.

Parallel runways and prevailing winds certainly help. Lack of major hub operations ?

JFK for instance.

Imagine how fast they could launch and recover aircraft there, if they didn't have:

both winter and summer storm delays
intersecting runways
a spread out, and a bit confusing ground layout

The place would run like clock work.

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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:40 am

I would say LAX doesn't have many delays. The weather is pretty consistent year around and the operations usually utilize runways 24 and 25.
 
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:10 am

I agree.

Maybe PHX or LAS ? Although LAS does get alot of traffic delays

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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:43 am

HNL?

At least in my corner of the country, ATC delays at SEA and PDX are pretty rare.
 
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:58 pm

If we are looking at international airports as well than SIN, HKG, KUL, NRT all come into mind
 
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:05 am

Why guess -- the DOT published the hard data.


Best Departure Ontime performance amongst large US Airports were;

January 1 - December 31, 2007 %
1 Salt Lake City, UT (SLC) 83.91
2 Portland, OR (PDX) 83.56
3 San Diego, CA (SAN) 82.52
4 Tampa, FL (TPA) 81.15
5 Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 80.20
6 Oakland, CA (OAK) 79.73
7 Houston, TX (IAH) 79.73
8 Orlando, FL (MCO) 79.26
9 Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL) 78.47
10 St. Louis, MO (STL) 77.84

Remainder of list
http://www.bts.gov/programs/airline_..._tables/2007_12/html/table_06.html
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:40 am

I was gunna guess/suggest MCO, but I don't know the details at every airport. I've just never had any major problems myself at MCO, and I do know it's not too often that there are runway changes, gate problems, or ground movement problems in general. While it's not the perfect layout of an airport, I think it was pretty well designed.
 
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:17 am



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Why guess -- the DOT published the hard data.


Best Departure Ontime performance amongst large US Airports were;

January 1 - December 31, 2007 %
1 Salt Lake City, UT (SLC) 83.91
2 Portland, OR (PDX) 83.56
3 San Diego, CA (SAN) 82.52
4 Tampa, FL (TPA) 81.15
5 Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 80.20
6 Oakland, CA (OAK) 79.73
7 Houston, TX (IAH) 79.73
8 Orlando, FL (MCO) 79.26
9 Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL) 78.47
10 St. Louis, MO (STL) 77.84

One thing that stands out.....

If you combine the top 3 airports 2007 passenger totals, they are still 6 million passengers shy of LAX.

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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:28 am

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 8):
I was gunna guess/suggest MCO, but I don't know the details at every airport. I've just never had any major problems myself at MCO, and I do know it's not too often that there are runway changes, gate problems, or ground movement problems in general. While it's not the perfect layout of an airport, I think it was pretty well designed

Pilotboi,

It looks like those number provided by LAXIntl prove your guess about MCO to be correct.!

I would like to add, that the Google Earth satelite view of MCO is BY FAR, the coolest airport layout. Not sure how practical it is ( I've never flown there) but it sure looks cool from a couple hundred miles up!


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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:08 pm

I'm surprised CLE isn't in the top 10. Other than winter, it seems like a really smooth hub.

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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:48 pm



Quoting HeyWhaTheHay (Reply 9):
One thing that stands out.....

If you combine the top 3 airports 2007 passenger totals, they are still 6 million passengers shy of LAX.

No doubt LAX has some passenger numbers.

You posted the on-time departure airports now post the on-time arrival airports.
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:00 pm

Ontime arrivals dont mean much if you are looking for actual airport performance as arrivals are at the mercy of enroute delays or delays based on where the flight originates.

For instance if an airport sees a large volume of flights from place such as JFK, ORD, EWR, LGA, ATL etc which have poor ontime departure rates, the arrival airport will suffer statistically as a good portion of those flights would be arriving late for no fault of the arrival airport.
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:21 am



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
Ontime arrivals dont mean much if you are looking for actual airport performance as arrivals are at the mercy of enroute delays or delays based on where the flight originates.

I completely agree with you however, it gives the tue airport performance as the OP wanted in the thread!
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RE: Major Airport With The Least ATC Problems/dela

Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:46 am



Quoting Iahflyr (Reply 14):
completely agree with you however, it gives the tue airport performance as the OP wanted in the thread!

Yup, thats what I am looking for.



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