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London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:45 pm

Hi everyone,

I am looking to book a vacation next month in San Francisco, I will be flying in Y and would like your opinions on who to fly with.

I have found a couple of options, UA direct to SFO from LHR; on either 744's or 777's. According to seatguru, UA's 744 have no PTV, can anyone tell me if this is so, if it is then I will rule these out.

Another option I have found is flying NW from LGW to SFO via DTW on a 757 followed by an A320. What are NW's 757s like transatlantic?;( I flew on their DC10's and wasn't that impressed) and what are their 320's like for entertainment and service?. The return part of this flight is SFO - CVG - LGW on DL, this will be on a 738 followed by a 767. I have never flown DL so have no idea what their service, amenities or aircraft are like.

Which way would you go?, or do you know another routing that is cheap, unusual and offers great value for money.

Thanks
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:04 pm

What are the dates you're hoping to go? And how flexible are you with these dates? How much are you willing to spend?
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:10 pm



Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
Another option I have found is flying NW from LGW to SFO via DTW on a 757 followed by an A320. What are NW's 757s like transatlantic?;( I flew on their DC10's and wasn't that impressed) and what are their 320's like for entertainment and service?.

I don't know about NW's 757 transatlantic, but I flew the 320 from DTW-SEA back in 2004. There was no IFE, but IDK if they have changed.

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
I have found a couple of options, UA direct to SFO from LHR; on either 744's or 777's. According to seatguru, UA's 744 have no PTV, can anyone tell me if this is so, if it is then I will rule these out.

I had the same dilema when I went from IAD-AMS. I saw that there was a chance to get a 767 that did or did not have IFE. Luckily, we got the screens Big grin. But from LHR-IAD, it was a 777 and we got the IFE screens. But, that's true, I don't believe that UA's 747s have IFE.

Have you tried to mix and match with BA, Virgin, and Alaska?
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:12 pm

Hi,

I am looking to fly around the 22nd of Sept give or take 3-4 days and staying for 10-14 days.

Obviously I want to spend as little as possible but my maximum would be about £450 pp.


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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:36 pm

The United 744's have overhead video monitors showing one movie at a time... no individual IFE in seat-backs.

If you want to go cheaply though, this is your best option.

Book the flights through www.flybmi.com on the BMI code-share, and the total is £355.70 (flying Mon 22nd Sept, back on Sat 4th Oct.)
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:28 pm



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 2):
I don't know about NW's 757 transatlantic, but I flew the 320 from DTW-SEA back in 2004. There was no IFE, but IDK if they have changed.

NO IFE whatsoever on the NW A320 unless you bring it yourself!
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:08 pm

Do you consider to fly with BA or VS??
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:59 pm

You could also try AC and go through Canada such as YYZ or YVR. They're not the cheapest but offer a good product. Plus, depending on your routing you'll have the A330, B777, B767 as Trans-Atlantic options and the A320, A319, E190 and CRJs as trans-border options. Just be advised though, the only food options on flights within North America are either bring your own or buy on board, but the Trans-Atlantic flights have free meals.

As for IFE, a good portion of the fleet has been retrofitted, such as the E190, A319, B767 and B777.
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:06 pm

You could fly Zoom from LGW-SAN Then UA from SAN-SFO that wold we allot cheaper but if money is not the case then I would go on the UA 747 Directly to SFO .
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:25 am



Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Do you consider to fly with BA or VS??

Price is a factor, so that rules out BA etc.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 7):
You could also try AC and go through Canada such as YYZ or nWYVR. They're not the cheapest but offer a good product. Plus, depending on your routing you'll have the A330, B777, B767 as Trans-Atlantic options and the A320, A319, E190 and CRJs as trans-border options.

Again its down to costing, AC want an arm and a leg and more besides.

Quoting Bbinn333 (Reply 8):
You could fly Zoom from LGW-SAN Then UA from SAN-SFO that wold we allot cheaper but if money is not the case then I would go on the UA 747 Directly to SFO

Zoom is not an option I had thought about,thanks I will check it out.

Am still waiting to hear from anybody that has flown an NW 757 across the pond; and, anyone that has flown Delta on this route.

Thanks for all your suggestions, keep em coming

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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:06 am

I would think carefully about booking Zoom. They have a very small fleet which is worked very hard. When tech issues occur their schedule goes to pot, and their customer service appears to leave a LOT to be desired. Check out some passenger reports on www.airlinequality.com
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:12 am



Quoting SKORD (Reply 10):
I would think carefully about booking Zoom. They have a very small fleet which is worked very hard. When tech issues occur their schedule goes to pot, and their customer service appears to leave a LOT to be desired. Check out some passenger reports on www.airlinequality.com

Zoom is still a great airline look at the low fares and the good comments though .
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:26 am

What kind of pricing are you looking for?
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:48 am



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 12):
What kind of pricing are you looking for?

As little as possible, somewhere in the region of £450, US$450 or CAN$500
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:52 am

£450 is roughly US$850 and CAN$900.

If price is a factor then go on UA all the way there. So much less hassle without the change, but the UA 747's don't have PTV's in Economy.
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:28 pm

How about Aer Lingus LHR-DUB-SFO?
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:16 pm

I would recommend UA, plus they have the option to buy-up to Economy Plus for a small fee.

Stick with the 777 and you'll have 34-36in legroom and your own screen. Not AVOD and 6USD/3GBP for a drink, but at least you'll be comfortable.

The price quoted above found on the bmi flight is very good. Don't hang about!


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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:41 am

UA is price is a factor, otherwise VS.
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:34 am



Quoting SKORD (Reply 10):
I would think carefully about booking Zoom. They have a very small fleet which is worked very hard

It seems the Canadian arm is more trouble than the UK operations (JFK, SAN and FLL).
Still, I'd say take VS - Great airline all round imo.

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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:45 pm



Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
I have found a couple of options, UA direct to SFO from LHR; on either 744's or 777's. According to seatguru, UA's 744 have no PTV, can anyone tell me if this is so, if it is then I will rule these out.

Thats correct no PTV's.

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
Another option I have found is flying NW from LGW to SFO via DTW on a 757 followed by an A320. What are NW's 757s like transatlantic?;(

The 757 transatlantic offers more legroom than the 330's and seats just 144 in Y, no PTV's but several drop down overheard screens, have you looked out of LHR on NW?

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
and what are their 320's like for entertainment and service?.

No IFE, you will get a drink service and food for purchase.

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
The return part of this flight is SFO - CVG - LGW on DL, this will be on a 738 followed by a 767. I have never flown DL so have no idea what their service, amenities or aircraft are like.

DL is getting better most of their 738's will have PTV's and the 767's as well. NW offers more food over the ocean though.
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:46 pm

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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:30 pm

Here Are the results for Zoom

Passenger Listing/Pricing

Passenger /Item No. Amount Departure Taxes, Fees & Fuel Surcharges Total for

1. Passenger
£23.00 £183.06 £206.06
£48.00 £120.91 £168.91
£71.00 £303.97 £374.97

Amount Paid to Date £0.00
Final Amount £374.97

Then United From SAN-SFO

Total price: USD 174.00
Price breakdown
Fare rules
Mon, Sep 22, 2008 - San Diego, CA (SAN) to San Francisco, CA (SFO)
United 0522
Depart: SAN 5:45 PM
Arrive: SFO 7:14 PM Non-stop
Airbus A320
Booking class: L
No Meal Service
Fri, Oct 03, 2008 - San Francisco, CA (SFO) to San Diego, CA (SAN)
United 0383
Depart: SFO 12:39 PM
Arrive: SAN 2:09 PM Non-stop
Boeing 737-300
Booking class: T
No Meal Service

Final Total Translated In To Pounds On xe.com :£465.56
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:05 pm

Why don't you try AF: see the fare below and it's a non-stop 777 flight  Smile


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Your trip
Passenger : 1 Adult
Flight Departure Arrival Duration Stops
Aircraft Class
Departure flight Monday 22 September 2008
AF060 17:00 London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 20:15 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 11h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
Return flight Thursday 2 October 2008
AF061 20:25 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 14:40
+1 Day London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 10h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
change your flight selection
Price details Total £ 438.70
Price Taxes Passenger Total including taxes
£ 128 + £ 310.70 x 1 Adult = £ 438.70
Total : £ 438.70
earn miles
Fare information
Departure flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Return flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
pricing conditions
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:20 pm

Quoting Crox1 (Reply 9):
Am still waiting to hear from anybody that has flown an NW 757 across the pond; and, anyone that has flown Delta on this route.

According to NW's website, the international 757s do not have PTVs. I have had very good experiences on the NW A330s across the pond, but it sounds like you need to depart from LGW on the 757 to get the best fare. If you're really wanting a PTV & IFE for the flight, I'd just go with the simple non-stop on UA with their 777s.

[Edited 2008-08-12 11:22:31]
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:35 pm



Quoting MH017 (Reply 22):
Why don't you try AF: see the fare below and it's a non-stop 777 flight  


Book online1organise 2select 3book 4your details 5confirm

Your trip
Passenger : 1 Adult
Flight Departure Arrival Duration Stops
Aircraft Class
Departure flight Monday 22 September 2008
AF060 17:00 London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 20:15 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 11h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
Return flight Thursday 2 October 2008
AF061 20:25 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 14:40
+1 Day London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 10h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
change your flight selection
Price details Total £ 438.70
Price Taxes Passenger Total including taxes
£ 128 + £ 310.70 x 1 Adult = £ 438.70
Total : £ 438.70
earn miles
Fare information
Departure flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Return flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
pricing conditions
change your request contact us use your profile to book
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:49 am

What about NZ to LAX then transfering onto a UA plane to SFO? Would work if you are Star Alliance
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:34 pm



Quoting Bbinn333 (Reply 24):
AF060 17:00 London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 20:15 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA



Quoting Bbinn333 (Reply 24):
AF061 20:25 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 14:40
+1 Day London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 10h15mn non-stop



Quoting Bbinn333 (Reply 24):
This Is For SFO Not LAX

What did I do wrong here ? It clearly states LAX !!!
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:39 pm



Quoting MH017 (Reply 26):
What did I do wrong here ? It clearly states LAX !!!

Just that thread title is "London to San Francisco" and AFAIK LAX is about 500 miles from San Francisco.
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:25 pm

Not sure how NW are as an airline but found this on Ebookers -

£348.23 flying via DTW
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:55 am



Quoting SKORD (Reply 10):
Am still waiting to hear from anybody that has flown an NW 757 across the pond

flew NW 757 TATL EWR -AMS-EWR in may

- Y class seats were decent, a step up from domestic coach, i actually was pretty comfortable, (i'm 6'2), width was the same, with an slight increase in pitch and legroom. (comparing to other 757 Y classes)
- IFE is on drop down LCD tvs, so no PTV.
- service EWR-AMS was decent. AMS-EWR was quite poor.

it wasn't as bad as i thought TATL in a 752 would be as far as comfort, PTVs would have been nice but not necessary, what really killed it was the piss poor, miserable service on the return leg. maybe just a bad batch of FAs that day?
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:49 am

If I were you I'd fly either BA or VS who ever is cheaper. nice seats, good service, Value for money...etc.
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:08 pm

My choices on the LHR-SFO route are:

1) BA

2) VS

3) AF (via connection @ LAX)

4) CO or DL (with connection)

5) UA

6) NW or AA (with connection)
 
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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:04 pm

I would take VS hands down. I have always enjoyed flying with them over BA  Smile

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RE: London To San Francisco, Your Opinions

Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:29 pm

BA is the best airline that runs this route, no question. VS is marginally behind with UA, NW, and AA trailing my miles. You'd be foolish not to fly on BA if the price is right.
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