Transtar
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What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:18 pm

I am flying in economy to Buenos Aires on United on their nonstop IAD flight. With all the service changes on their international routes, what should I expect regarding:

- Checked luggage fees
- Food service (is it pay on board now?)

I understand that the route is being served by one of their upgraded 767-300ER with the new business class seats. I assume no changes were made to the economy section, though, right?

Also, I have seat assignments on the return flight (that's how I figured out it was the reconfigured aircraft because of the seat rows), but I couldn't make seat assignments on the departing flight.

My understanding is that United withholds and then releases a block of seats for assignements 24 hours ahead and that I can call in and request a seat assignment at that time. Is that still the practice?

Finally, my understanding is that the aircraft on the route flies into Buenos Aires in the early morning and then sits parked all day for the return flight. Is that correct? That seems like a huge waste of a aircraft.

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Transpac787
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:44 am

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
- Checked luggage fees

Since it is an international route, you should get two checked bags for free. Any additional bags, heavy weight, and oversize all have the standard charges apply. But, two standard bags free, at least.

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
- Food service (is it pay on board now?)

UA considered it, but due to huge negative feedback they will not be going to Buy On Board. So, you should get dinner service, a small midflight snack, and finished off by a hot breakfast before arrival in EZE.

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
I understand that the route is being served by one of their upgraded 767-300ER with the new business class seats.

While UA has no specific routes yet that exclusively see new-config aircraft, EZE and GRU have been getting them quite frequently it seems. So, while there is no guarantee you will be on a new aircraft, it's quite likely.

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
I assume no changes were made to the economy section, though, right?

You are right. Typical United.

I really try to support them when I can, but they make it friggin' difficult sometimes.

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
(that's how I figured out it was the reconfigured aircraft because of the seat rows)

On the 763's the Y cabin should have the same exact number of seats and rows, between the old and new configs. The only seat changes are in F and C:

Old: 10F/32C/151Y
New: 6F/26C/151Y

So, whether you have a new bird or not, your Y seat assignment should remain unchanged.

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
Finally, my understanding is that the aircraft on the route flies into Buenos Aires in the early morning and then sits parked all day for the return flight. Is that correct?

This is correct, and is the practice with all US carriers that fly to EZE. This might change if AA adds a daylight EZE-MIA flight, but if not all US carriers operate overnight flights both to and from EZE, with the planes sitting on the ground in EZE all day.

Quoting TranStar (Thread starter):
That seems like a huge waste of a aircraft.

It's possible. AA obviously sees enough profits in the market to justify such aircraft utilization and rotations. But, you are right, one would think it's a bit of a waste of aircraft to have them sit on the ground for 12 hours or so.


Hope that helps, let us know if you have any more Q's. Enjoy your stay in EZE and be sure to take pics and write a TR for us!!

[Edited 2008-09-29 20:45:28]
 
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:59 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
You are right. Typical United.

I really try to support them when I can, but they make it friggin' difficult sometimes.

What is wrong with the Economy section. They are actually pretty new (some 75's don't even have the new blue fabric yet), and they have PTV's. What else do you want?
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:38 am



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 2):
and they have PTV's. What else do you want?

No AVOD, like in F and C cabins. No new overhead bins, like in F and C cabins.

It's not necessarily this one thing, just a track record at UA. They seem to be leading the race to the bottom, and leading the race by quite a large margin (this is coming from a UA fanboy too).
 
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:30 pm



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
It's possible. AA obviously sees enough profits in the market to justify such aircraft utilization and rotations. But, you are right, one would think it's a bit of a waste of aircraft to have them sit on the ground for 12 hours or so.

Yields are MUCH better on overnight flights. There's a reason everyone does it (and South American carriers like LA fly the same schedule)

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
This is correct, and is the practice with all US carriers that fly to EZE.

AA flies EZE-MVD on days that MIA-MVD does not operate. UA also used to fly EZE-MVD.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
So, you should get dinner service, a small midflight snack, and finished off by a hot breakfast before arrival in EZE.

Do they really do a snack service in the middle of the night?
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:46 pm

When will you be flying?

I have a IAD-EZE on the 8th (next week).
I am using one SWU all the way from Frankfurt to EZE and from what they said chances are good - let's hope it clears.
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Transtar
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:12 pm

I am departing on October 30 and returning on November 8.
 
aviator86
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RE: What To Expect On UA IAD-Buenos Aires Flight

Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:03 am



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
AA flies EZE-MVD on days that MIA-MVD does not operate. UA also used to fly EZE-MVD.

True. That has got to be a really short flight over the Rio de la Plata. Especially for a 767 or 777.

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