amax1977
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Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:37 am

Hi pals… I will be commuting between SFO & GIG for next 6 months (Every other weeks!) and looking for the fastest routes between SFO & GIG. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Cheers,
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:10 am

SFO-IAH-GIG-CO
SFO-MIA-GIG-AA
SFO-ATL-GIG: DL
 
Motorhussy
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:15 am

Pretty good options with the US carriers.

  • AA via MIA
  • CO via IAH
  • UA via IAD
  • DL via ATL

Takes between 16 and 18 hours at quickest for each option. Guess it depends which FF programme you're with.

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amax1977
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:20 am

Thank you COERJ145 & MotorHussy. I am with *A, but unfortunately it seems the longest trips are with UA and CO. I wish TAM start flying to SFO  Yeah sure

Cheers.

[Edited 2008-10-09 18:30:43]
 
71Zulu
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:31 am

DL 1068/61
SFO-ATL-GIG
15hr 28 min

DL 60/1065
GIG-ATL-SFO
18hr 17 min
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C010T3
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:37 am

The fastest way is with CO flying through IAH while the seasonal nonstop IAH-GIG is online. I believe it's the absolute record to fly CO430 connecting to CO129 on the SFO-GIG leg. On the way back it's CO128 and CO378. Note that the flight is not daily and starts only in December.

Depart: 14:17 San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Arrive: 20:02 Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Flight Time: 3 hr 45 mn Flight: CO430
Aircraft: Boeing 737-900

Change Planes. Connect time in Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental) is 58 minutes.

Depart: 21:00 Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Arrive: 11:10 +1 Day Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (GIG)
Flight Time: 10 hr 10 mn Flight: CO129
Aircraft: Boeing 767-400ER



Although it takes a bit longer, UA offers a good solution with UA873 on SFO-GIG and UA874, both via IAD. It retains the same number all the way, but there is a plane change. IMHO IAD's immigration is really fast in the early morning, so it's a real good alternative. I don't know if you will have a guaranteed connection, since the tags have the same numbers, but I always like to think there is, because it would be very strange to have a tag-on flight leaving/arriving before/after the arrival/departure of the main flight.

[Edited 2008-10-09 18:45:24]
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:40 am



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 3):
Thank you COERJ145 & MotorHussy. I am with *A, but unfortunately it seems the longest trips are with UA and CO. I wish TAM start flying to SFO

What?

United 0873
Depart: SFO 12:45 PM
Arrive: GIG 11:00 AM
Arrives next day
1-stop
16h 15m
Plane change
6,603 miles traveled

United 0874
Depart: GIG 11:25 PM
Arrive: SFO 12:02 PM
Arrives next day
1-stop
18h 37m
Plane change
6,603 miles traveled
 
amax1977
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:46 am

Thank you very much C010T3. The options you pointed are great.

Cheers.
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:55 am



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 7):
Thank you very much C010T3. The options you pointed are great.

Cheers.

I am always glad to help. I hope you feel welcome in Rio when you arrive.
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:03 am



Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 4):
DL 1068/61
SFO-ATL-GIG
15hr 28 min

DL 60/1065
GIG-ATL-SFO
18hr 17 min

I will say this if you fly DL via ATL at least you will be on a B767-432ER which has AVOD in both F and Y. If any of that matters to you.  Wink
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:00 am



Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
The fastest way is with CO flying through IAH while the seasonal nonstop IAH-GIG is online. I believe it's the absolute record to fly CO430 connecting to CO129 on the SFO-GIG leg. On the way back it's CO128 and CO378. Note that the flight is not daily and starts only in December.

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Continental is hands down the best US product to the Rio de Janeiro market. The crews are excellent, excellent, excellent. IAH and the E concourse is so very easy to transit in. I would recommend CO over any other US airline after years of experience on IAH-GRU-GIG.
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:04 am



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 10):
Continental is hands down the best US product to the Rio de Janeiro market. The crews are excellent, excellent, excellent. IAH and the E concourse is so very easy to transit in. I would recommend CO over any other US airline after years of experience on IAH-GRU-GIG.

Sorry but I have to say its a very very close race with them and DL. Plus DL is year round non-stop ATL-GIG. Both flights are on a 764 and with DL Almost all ATL-SFO flights are 763s which in F you get a BizE meal. The seats are about the same and both of the DL planes have AVOD. CO might have a little better seat than DL (wider) but thats about it. By far not the best hands down.  Wink
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:17 am

And this is the scenic route:
TA SFO-SAL-SJO-LIM-GIG
(SJO transfer may not be necessary)

I believe that CO and DL may provide immediate connections between GIG and SJC/SMF too.
I don't work for COPA Airlines!
 
amax1977
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:01 pm

Thank you every one for your feedbacks. It seems the followings are available options:
AA via MIA
DL via ATL
CO via IAH
UA via IAD
TAM via MIA or JFK
TA via SFO/SAL/SJO/LIM

Among above options I decided to try the followings:

UA: Because I am 1K at UA and they have done a wonderful job in spoling me with me courtesy upgrades most times  Smile

DL: I haven't flew on 767-400 before. I would love to try it for the first time on DL.

CO: I haven't flew any international route with CO before and I want to try them for the first time. Hopefully I can get miles from them to my UA Mileage Plus (Since they annouunced partnership with UA while ago).

TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

The ones that I think I will not try are AA & TA for the following reasons:

AA- I have few with them and nothing was special about them.

TA- I would love to fly with TA, but not from SFO to GIG. Such a long route on single aile plane is alittle too much for me. I cannot stand single aile planes for more than 5 hours. After 5 hours I start biting the walls  Big grin

Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

Cheers.
 
C010T3
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:15 pm



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):

Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

Someday? Yes. Soon? No.
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:36 pm



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

And it's always good to fly an airline of your destination country to give you a taste of what to expect.

Obrigado
MH
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Lambert747
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:42 pm



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

VP had plans to operate to SFO

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...-RioGrandense-Company-History.html

"VASP announced intentions to begin passenger service to Tokyo with connections in Los Angeles and San Francisco, a move that would open the door for the company to begin cargo operations, as well as tap into demand for passenger service by Brazil's substantial Japanese population."
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:55 pm



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

Not SFO, but rumored that DL may launch LAX to Brazil (I'd assume GRU), so assuming decent connecting flight times, that will be your shortest elapsed time. As DL has immigrations/customs all in T5, it would be a painless connection too.
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:08 pm

As far as direct routes go, SFO-GIG overflies Phoenix, then follows the Rio Grande, the Yucutan peninsula, then over the extreme easter part of Honduras and the extreme northeastern tip of Nicaragua, then VERY close to Panama City and Bogota, then over the Amazon Basin to GIG.

SFO-GIG = 5739 nm
SFO-PTY-GIG = 2855 + 2885 = 5740 nm
SFO-BOG-GIG = 3291 + 2448 = 5739 nm

Unfortunately, neither COPA nor Avianca fly to SFO...

SFO-IAH-GIG = 1421 + 4359 = 5780 nm
SFO-MIA-GIG = 2246 + 3617 = 5863 nm
SFO-ATL-GIG = 1859 + 4115 = 5974 nm

In the end, it's going to come down to schedule and price along with FF benefits you will accrue.

Safe travels to you!!
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:18 pm



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

Hey, TAM in my opinion is the worst airline I have ever flown. TAM lacks organization. Very poor frequent flyer program. What you will have trouble is changing tickets, etc. Nothing can be done on their website. They still live in the world of faxes to accomplish things. I would stick with UA, AA or DL. UA because of your status, AA for the largest network to Brazil and DL for great service.
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:39 pm



Quoting SalMonela (Reply 17):
As DL has immigrations/customs all in T5, it would be a painless connection too.

There would be no point as DL pulled the plug on SFO, SJC, OAK, SMF-LAX. There is nothing to connect to for connections within California and within the West Coast with the exception of SLC at LAX on DL metal.
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:28 pm

I would stick with UA since you are a 1K and can get upgraded with your systemwide certs.

You can not yet get miles with UA for flying on JJ or CO. It was said it will take JJ 12-18 months before they are officially are a Star Alliance member. CO should be joining sooner but you can not yet get UA miles for flying CO.

Half of UA's 763 fleeet now has the new fleet beds in C with AVOD.

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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:20 pm

I've flown to GIG and GRU many times. Of all the U.S. based airlines, I like CO the best, especially if you are traveling in bizfirst.

That said, if you have intra-Brazil flying to do, take TAM. I've been impressed on all my flights between GIG-GRU and GRU-Florianapolis.
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:21 pm



Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
You can not yet get miles with UA for flying on JJ or CO.

I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. I will stick with UA then.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 18):
As far as direct routes go, SFO-GIG overflies Phoenix, then follows the Rio Grande, the Yucutan peninsula, then over the extreme easter part of Honduras and the extreme northeastern tip of Nicaragua, then VERY close to Panama City and Bogota, then over the Amazon Basin to GIG.

Very interesting route. Thanks for sharing.

And thanks to all other a.net pals who shared their thoughts in this topic.


I will post my trip notes and feedbacks as I will go through the journey.

Cheers.

Amax1977
 
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:56 am



Quoting Amax1977 (Thread starter):
Hi pals… I will be commuting between SFO & GIG for next 6 months (Every other weeks!) and looking for the fastest routes between SFO & GIG. Any suggestions? Thanks.

I believe you already got all options...

Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
DL: I haven't flew on 767-400 before. I would love to try it for the first time on DL.

DL 764 to GIG is a very nice flight. I made this twice and would recommend. On Economy you will have PTV with AVOD.

Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

Just flew yesterday GIG-MIA on it's B767-300ER and after DL (i lost AA flight) MIA-JFK. It's a very nice 2-1-2 conf. on Business with very comfortable seats and a personal entertainment unit, good food and nice service.

Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 19):
Hey, TAM in my opinion is the worst airline I have ever flown. TAM lacks organization. Very poor frequent flyer program. What you will have trouble is changing tickets, etc. Nothing can be done on their website. They still live in the world of faxes to accomplish things. I would stick with UA, AA or DL. UA because of your status, AA for the largest network to Brazil and DL for great service.

It depends, i believe the opening of GIG flights will help TAM to improve it's service. I saw yesterday at least 4 pax from Minas on Business Class, and in the end they were very satisfied about the flight, how easy is to connect and no overcrowding for boarding. JJ8056 was full (30C/175Y).

Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
You can not yet get miles with UA for flying on JJ or CO

Yes, you can get miles with UA flying on JJ ! They code-share with TAM !
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,52289,00.html
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:42 pm



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 24):
Yes, you can get miles with UA flying on JJ !

Thanks LipeGIG for the correction. Although from SFO, it's not very convient to fly JJ unless they have started JFK-GIG nonstop. Accrual for flying CO will start soon but there's no date as far as I know.

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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:06 pm



Quoting The777Man (Reply 25):
Thanks LipeGIG for the correction. Although from SFO, it's not very convient to fly JJ unless they have started JFK-GIG nonstop

Agree, considering UA does not fly SFO-MIA.
They will begin JFK-GIG on Nov 2nd.
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RE: Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG

Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:51 am

Amax1977 being a UA flyer and 1K, I would definately stick with UA for now.

Not only will you have opportunities to upgrade using miles or your system wide certs, but you might even manage getting promoted to Global Services if you truly manage to fly that often to Brazil.

Lastly as time passes you should see more and more reconfigured cabins with the new first and business class product is truly world class and in my view best of the US carriers.

Enjoy the trips, and earning all those miles (base+bonus) !
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