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Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:04 pm

The title says it all. There was another thread on this, but involved switching both airlines and concourses, so it's a different scenario. I found my friend a good deal on FL, BOS-ATL-HOU and back HOU-ATL-BOS. He hasn't booked the tickets yet as far as I know. On the return flight, FL gives two itineraries with a 40-minute layover, which would be fine if it worked. There are other options on FL, but they involve either more money or a 5-hour layover. FL goes into Terminal C and he would only have to walk down the hall, but taking into account any weather-related issues and the fact that ATL is so busy, would 40 minutes be enough?
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:05 pm

It's long enough if your inbound flight arrives on-time. If it's anything more than 15 minutes late, your chances of making the connection are severely diminished.
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:09 pm



Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 1):
If it's anything more than 15 minutes late, your chances of making the connection are severely diminished.

Unless the aircraft goes m/x in HOU, a bad day at ATL will screw up all of FL's flights. I'd book it with confidence; it likely won't be a long walk at all.
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:15 pm

I would NEVER give myself less than an hour to connect at ATL...Epically ATL
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:17 pm

40 minutes is good, things have been alot smoother lately at ATL

HOWEVER... I'd make sure those arent the last flights of the day
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:18 pm

...FL also flies out of Concourse D...I fly into ATL all the time and agree anything less than an hour @ ATL is too close...

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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:19 pm

Yes, 40 minutes is plenty of time to connect at ATL if everything goes well. If it's weather related, chances are your outbound flight will also be delayed too. Personally, if it was me, I would find something at least 90 minutes, but 40 minutes is cutting it close, but still easily doable.
 
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:45 pm



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
I'd book it with confidence; it likely won't be a long walk at all.

Let's hope you're right.  crossfingers  However, if you are at the back of the inbound aircraft on a full flight and if you must change between B & C concourses, you will most certainly need all 40 minutes.
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:10 am

No, 40 minutes is not enough time. I fly in and out of ATL for a living and folks are always missing their connections because they book 30-45 minute connection times. Airlines are NOT well oiled machines, despite popular belief. Any number of things can go wrong, and a 15 minute delay could be detrimental to your itinerary. MX problems, WX problems, gate unavailable upon arrival in ATL, ATC equipment failures, ground stops to ATL, call for release programs to ATL, taxi delays from runway 10/28 in ATL, runway closure in ATL, ramp congestion in ATL, ground stops to Houston, ground stops for departures in Houston due to Houston Center airspace saturation...I could list dozens of more things that routinely cause 10-15+ delays in ATL.

1 hour minimum. Always.

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EDIT: FL operates from both C and D concourses in ATL, and should you have to change concourses and experience a 10-15 minute delay on your inbound flight to ATL...you may not make it.

Consider this: Weather is beautiful and clear. Your flight arrives in HOU 10 minutes late due to taxi delays in ATL, despite your flight having left the gate on time. A booking discrepancy occurs in HOU, causing an additional 5 minute delay. You depart HOU 15 minutes late. Upon arrival in ATL airpace, your flight is slowed to 250KTS for entrail spacing, and ATC issues several 90 degree turns as spacing vectors. Now you have an additional 5 minute delay. Contacting ATL approach control, your flight is assigned runway 28 (common for west arrivals) and it takes an additional 15 minutes to fly the downwind leg on the arrival and additional time for taxi. You park at concourse D and need to go to C, which takes about 5 minutes...as much as 10 if you park at D1 and need to go to C1.

10 minute taxi delay + 5 minute booking delay + 5 minute ATC delay + 15 minute arrival delay + 10 minute concourse change = 45 minutes. BAM: missed your flight.

This, my friend, is a standard ATL day. I know, because I do it 5 times a day.

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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:22 am

But if it's on one ticket, wouldn't Airtran take care of you, book you on the next flight, a competitors flight or if it's the last flight of the day put you in a hotel without additional cost if you'd miss the connection and it's not your fault ? (like loitering in the terminal and not showing up at the gate while the flight arrived on time in the same terminal).
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:22 am



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 8):
WX problems, gate unavailable upon arrival in ATL, ATC equipment failures, ground stops to ATL, call for release programs to ATL, taxi delays from runway 10/28 in ATL, runway closure in ATL, ramp congestion in ATL,

FL routinely can (and does) hold connections for all of those things.
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:15 am



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 9):
But if it's on one ticket, wouldn't Airtran take care of you, book you on the next flight, a competitors flight or if it's the last flight of the day put you in a hotel without additional cost if you'd miss the connection and it's not your fault ?

How a missed connection is handled isn't based on whether or not it's your fault, but on whether or not it's their fault. If it's not something under the airline's control - weather, ATC, etc. - then the only thing they really have to do is put you on their next available flight. They do not have to put you on a competitor or give you a free hotel room.

If the delay is mechanical, they would give you the hotel room if you miss the last flight of the day. Whether or not they have to put you on another carrier varies based on the individual airline's Contract of Carriage, although most will if they can't get you out the same day.

Back to the OP's question - is 40 minutes enough at ATL? It's cutting it very close, but as has been pointed out, FL does hold connecting flights if there are weather/ATC/etc issues. It is a risk, and I wouldn't take it if it's the last flight of the day and I had to be at work the next morning. Otherwise, I'd probably give it a shot.
 
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:42 pm



Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 11):
It is a risk, and I wouldn't take it if it's the last flight of the day and I had to be at work the next morning. Otherwise, I'd probably give it a shot.

 checkmark  You have two choices

1) Guarantee that you'll have the 5 hour connection
2) All but guarantee that you'll have the 5 hour connection (assuming that's on a flight that departs ATL later) but have a shot at making the short connection

This sort of logic has led me to book 35 minute connections at ATL (on DL) in the past... if you don't need to be at your destination at a certain time, it works well.
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:23 pm

I have made 40 min conxs in ATL before with a concourse change. But they were in the middle of boarding my connecting flight. So yes it is very doable, but it is very tight also. I would go with the 5 hour connection, thats plenty of time to walk up and down the concourses and people watch. Plus there are plenty of good restaurants. So I would take your time take in all the sights at ATL and just relax.
 
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:26 pm



Quoting CAL764 (Reply 3):
I would NEVER give myself less than an hour to connect at ATL...Epically ATL

I don't know why...........

Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):

You should be fine.  Wink

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 7):
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RE: Is 40 Minutes Enough To Connect In ATL?

Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:59 pm

I have the opposite problem. On November 15th, I have a 6-hour connection in ATL because ASA eliminated their morning flight from ATL to SWF, which I was to connect with after a LAS-ATL red-eye. Is there anything to do at Hartsfield Airport, other than have a nice breakfast?
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