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What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:23 am

hey guys. as the title says, what is it like flying on a Beech 1900D? I am flying next week from CLE to Bradford, PA via Jamestown, NY. This is my first time on a B19D and am wondering what it will be like? I know it is small, but is it an overly comfortable plane? how does it fair turbulence? in looking at the seat map on CO.com, looks like I might be the only passenger!
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:30 am

Not sure how are these ones configured... if you travel in the upper deck then you'll have PTVs for sure... otherwise, you'll have a comfy 1-1 layout and a pretty fun ride  Smile

I flew it in Venezuela, it was kind of fun. I've been in those a couple times and can't complain. I'm not sure if the cockpit is open, as it is in Venezuela... try to get the first left seat so you can have a cool view of the pilots.

The plane is kinda slow, doesn't climb and descent too fast, but in the end, those are made to go to near places.

I bet you'll like it.

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:36 am

IMO, i hated it, it was loud and the vibration was horrible! god thing it a short 30minute flight, but never again!!

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:54 am

A couple of my professors here were former 1900 pilots from Skyway. They liked the plane well enough, they said it was easy to fly, etc. One thing they always thought was funny was in icing conditions when there would be ice shedding from the props and it would hit the fuselage pretty hard, which sounded pretty nasty. They got a lot of nervous looks on the way out, but once they explained what it was and that there was no danger people were okay. Enjoy your flight on a little something different, and if you wouldn't mind posting a TR when you're done that'd be great!
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:55 am

I flew it twice in New Zeland a few years ago, once from Nelson to Wellington, then again from Hamilton to Auckland (very short flight, was scheduled to be Taupo, but flight was canx). I thought the small 1-1 cabin was brilliant, along with there beign no cockpit door. Wellington is well known for their bumpy arrivals, so flying into there was like being on a rollercoaster. Very enjoyable! Not the most attractive of planes, but a nice ride.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:58 am

It's like flying on a large dragon fly. That is the best way I can describe it. A little nerve racking at first, but you get used to it.  Smile
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:07 am

It can be bumpy, just like any smaller aircraft. Try and get a seat up front, as if you do have turbulence, you will certainly notice it if you sit in the back. Plus, you usually get one heck of a cockpit view if you sit in the first row. Most pilots will keep the curtain open for ya. I love the 19 seaters!
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:24 am

Have fun on the B1900, my friend is a Gate Agent in JHW for Gulfstream. She's been complaining about Gulfstream not being able to fly in the snow. Haha.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:27 am

I have flown on many 1900Cs as well as 1900Ds and they are a great little plane....
The C Model is tight because you cannot stand up and must stoop ove to get to your seats, but the D model is full stand up unless you arelike 6 feet 5 inches tall..LOL...
I have never felt unsafe or afraid to fly in a 1900 of both types....I have flown on them thru icing conditions and just as Acey says, the ice flung from the props hits the ice sheild on the fuselage but thats good because I know the de ice boots on the props are doing their jobs.

Have fun on your trip and please let us know you like it....

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p.s. for Xxcr, some of the bumpiest and scariest flights I have been on have been aircraft of DC9-30 size and larger....So just because a plane is smaller doesnt make it unsafe or bumpier.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:29 am



Quoting F9Animal (Reply 6):
It can be bumpy, just like any smaller aircraft. Try and get a seat up front, as if you do have turbulence, you will certainly notice it if you sit in the back. Plus, you usually get one heck of a cockpit view if you sit in the first row. Most pilots will keep the curtain open for ya. I love the 19 seaters!

Not bad, better than the old San Antonio Sewer Pipes (SWM). I'd give it the highest grade of any 19 seater I've been on, and I've been on most all.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:46 am

SWM = Swearingen Metroliner?
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:54 am



Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 10):
SWM = Swearingen Metroliner?

Yep and thats even worse than the 1900D....Purposly designed to make smooth landings impossible


As for the 1900D....POS...IMHO
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:01 am



Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 10):
SWM = Swearingen Metroliner?

Yeah, years ago when I lived in Dallas, a friend who used to work for Rio told me that was the "loving" phrase used by many rampers and pilots for the Metroliner.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:10 am

I flew BOS -> BTV about a year ago on Big Sky and it was kinda fun.

Got into the first row and watched the crew in action -- there was no cockpit door, and I had a good view of the instruments and out the cockpit window on the approach. (I used to fly myself, but since have decided that seats 0A and 0B belong to somebody else while I sit in 2 A or B and enjoy a cocktail!!).
It was a cool clear eveing and it climbed like a rocket -- I watched the altimiter spin up and up, almost like whirling dervish..
Sure, it was noisy and some vibration -- it is not terribly refined as aircraft go -- a Saab 340 seems much smoother -- but it was a bit of fun -- would not want to do a long flight, though!
The cockpit crew said they enjoyed the aircraft -- it was a decent performing and handling machine, with reasonable ecomomy, unlike the old SWM's, which simply converted fuel to noise!
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:42 am

I have flown them from twice from NAS-FLL and PIT-CLE. They are certainly a unique flying experience for those of us not quite used to such small planes. Everyone on my flight said that it felt like riding in a mini-van. No bathrooms, no flight attendents, and you can see out of the front windshield! The pilot acually brought up some luggage that wouldn't fit in the hold and buckled it in to one of the empty seats.

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:02 am



Quoting TN757Flyer (Reply 9):
Not bad, better than the old San Antonio Sewer Pipes (SWM). I'd give it the highest grade of any 19 seater I've been on, and I've been on most all.

I loved the ride on the Metro. When OO had them, I would fly on them every chance I could. The ride into PSP, LAS, and SGU in the summer months was not for those that were scared of bumps. It was a ride, that is for sure. We would seriously be tugging our seatbelts, especially into PSP. Oh, I miss those days. I enjoy turbulence actually. I guess I am nuts.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:08 am



Quoting Access-Air (Reply 8):
p.s. for Xxcr, some of the bumpiest and scariest flights I have been on have been aircraft of DC9-30 size and larger....So just because a plane is smaller doesnt make it unsafe or bumpier.

i must agree, i just had a bad experience i guess. but who knows, maybe i'll get a flight on one that is good. we'll just wait and find out. lol!!


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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:18 am

Don't sit in the last row!
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:30 am

I just flew on a Beech 1900D last week on a mountain sightseeing flight in Nepal. The aircraft was an 18 seater, and was pretty comfortable. Although it is quite noisy, you get used to it by the time you take-off.

We did not face any major swaying or vibration even when we passed through a layer of clouds. However, rain clouds and strong winds could be a factor to consider.

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:37 am



Quoting 797 (Reply 1):
if you travel in the upper deck then you'll have PTVs for sure... otherwise, you'll have a comfy 1-1 layout and a pretty fun ride

Umm, upper deck? PTVs?

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:39 am

I flew one Vegas-Visalia-Merced-Vegas about a year ago. It was pretty fun, just make sure to pee before you get onboard.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:50 am

I did a round trip LAS-HII on it one summer day. The ride was rather bumpy, especially on the way back during the hottest part of the day. The part that caught me by surprise (and this was before I knew the rules about flight attendants) was when the F.O. came out of the cockpit to do the safety briefing. That was a new experience.

Another intresting aspect about the aircraft is how the size of the plane makes you bond with your fellow passenger. Most of the time these flights go out with only 8 or 9 people, and with every seat so close, it's easier to talk with and understand your fellow passenger's knowledge and abilities, just in case sh*t happens.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:15 am



Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 19):
Umm, upper deck? PTVs?

Sandyb123

Uhhhhh. Yeah... I take it you have not flown the 1900D? It is really nice on the upper deck.
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Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 20):
I flew one Vegas-Visalia-Merced-Vegas about a year ago. It was pretty fun, just make sure to pee before you get onboard.

Unless you get to fly on the upper deck. LOL!

Quoting DukeofDashes (Reply 21):
I did a round trip LAS-HII on it one summer day. The ride was rather bumpy, especially on the way back during the hottest part of the day. The part that caught me by surprise (and this was before I knew the rules about flight attendants) was when the F.O. came out of the cockpit to do the safety briefing. That was a new experience.

Another intresting aspect about the aircraft is how the size of the plane makes you bond with your fellow passenger. Most of the time these flights go out with only 8 or 9 people, and with every seat so close, it's easier to talk with and understand your fellow passenger's knowledge and abilities, just in case sh*t happens.

The worst experience in that was when someone passed gas on a flight I was on once. It kept going through the cabin over and over again. I thought I was going to puke.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:28 am



Quoting F9Animal (Reply 22):
Uhhhhh. Yeah... I take it you have not flown the 1900D? It is really nice on the upper deck.

Hopefully its top speed isn't too great so you go flying off that thing on takeoff!

Great little plane, however there's this funny bump inside the cabin where the wings are and be careful or you could possibly hit your head. Everyone gets a window and aisle seat and you can look right through to the cockpit. I would probably rather fly another plane if the flight was an hr or more but it'd still be bearable for me.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:16 am

I've flown Era's 1900's and Penair's SWM's here in Alaska, and the 1900 wins hands down. At least you can stand up on the 1900.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:36 pm

Every seat is a window seat.......every seat is an aisle seat.
Best seat is first or second row behind the wing.
Poor seats are next to engine or very last row.
There is NO JOHN so "go" before you board.

I like the 1900D (D model is the one with the raised roof and large winglets).
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:33 pm



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 25):
Every seat is a window seat.......every seat is an aisle seat.
Best seat is first or second row behind the wing.
Poor seats are next to engine or very last row.

Except for 9B ... the best seat in the house if you're on a light flight and can get the back row to yourself. Stretch your legs down the aisle. Big grin
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Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:40 am



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 25):

Every seat is a window seat.......every seat is an aisle seat.
Best seat is first or second row behind the wing.
Poor seats are next to engine or very last row.
There is NO JOHN so "go" before you board.

I like the 1900D (D model is the one with the raised roof and large winglets).
CON-CONN used to fly em between FNT and CLE but now use bigger twins.

Have to agree with the aisle seat - window seat comment!
Seats further aft are quieter. Front seats are loud, but allow a great view of the cockpit and landing approach (left side is better because of the closet in the front right).

And stop the scare tactics!! On all the CMA B1900Ds I have been in, there is a LAV...

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:48 am



Quoting Skydrol (Reply 27):

And stop the scare tactics!! On all the CMA B1900Ds I have been in, there is a LAV..

That is an extremely rare option on a 1900. My previous airline flew them for up to 3 hours nonstop, with no lav. We never had any issues on those flights, we did on the shorter flights between the bigger cities. Damn city folk...

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:39 am



Quoting Skydrol (Reply 27):
And stop the scare tactics!! On all the CMA B1900Ds I have been in, there is a LAV...

Although I don't know of any American operator that has lavs installed on them.



Anyways the best comparison I can make is connecting from a 1900D to an A320. You really don't realize how smooth the larger jets are, even in turbulence, until you've been in a Beech. not to say their horrible, but you feel like you're flying, even in smooth cruise.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:16 pm



Quoting Skydrol (Reply 27):
And stop the scare tactics!! On all the CMA B1900Ds I have been in, there is a LAV...

WOW!! Now there's a new one!
By the way, where are the bags put now that we have a lav instead of a baggage hold?
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:04 pm



Quoting Skymiler (Reply 13):
Sure, it was noisya

Copy that. Bring some hearing protection !


Apart form that I had a very nice ride on CO-Express TPA to RSW as the only pax a few years ago; continuation to MIA was well filled. Flight was very good for sightseeing.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:46 am

You'll love the lay flat beds up in first class!  Smile

Kidding aside, I have flown this type a few times and for a fan of aviation it is a fun ride...more on the lines of general aviation flying. Many passengers who are looking to get to "Point B" from "Point A" may become nervous when they see how small this plane is, but that aside, you will enjoy the "up close and personal" experience with the cockpit crew and the all access views. To me, these types of planes give a more "true" feeling of flight and a bit of back to the basics feel you just don't get in an Airbus.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:19 pm



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 30):
By the way, where are the bags put now that we have a lav instead of a baggage hold?

Exactly what I'm thinking! Weight & balance can NOT be fun with the weight of the lav back there ... probably can't get very many bags on a full flight.
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Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:12 pm



Quoting JBo (Reply 33):
Exactly what I'm thinking! Weight & balance can NOT be fun with the weight of the lav back there ... probably can't get very many bags on a full flight.

In a 1900, weight in the back is a good thing. On am empty flight, one usually had to ask passengers to sit in the back, especially if they were of the larger size (we used actual Pax weights).

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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:47 pm



Quoting JBo (Reply 33):
Exactly what I'm thinking! Weight & balance can NOT be fun with the weight of the lav back there ... probably can't get very many bags on a full flight.

Maybe for this reason there are some many strakes, fins, and stabilizers on the rear fuselage and tail?
(Off topic, but does anyone remember the terms for all them? I used to. Maybe delta fins? stabilons? tailets?  Smile Don't laugh too hard if it seems I invented the names.)

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I have not seen the inside of the cargo area behind the lav, or even photos of it, but I have been on flights where skis, several hockey equipment bags and suitcases where unloaded for the 15 or so pax which were on the flight. Not even considering the weight, I was really amazed there is room in the 1900D for all of the checked baggage pax bring with them. Also, there are no overhead lockers, and very little underseat space, so everything has to go in the cargo hold.



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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:59 pm



Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 34):
In a 1900, weight in the back is a good thing. On am empty flight, one usually had to ask passengers to sit in the back, especially if they were of the larger size (we used actual Pax weights).

Very true!!! I am 200LB + and have been assigned the last row most of the time, and have been asked to move back on a few occasions. Now I usually just ask to sit in the back to begin with, so I don't have to move.

Also, being fat, I can make another comment about the 1900D. The lav is actually big enough to sit or stand after closing the sliding doors, while on the Dash 8, the tiny space and bi-fold door means the sit or stand decision has to be made before entering the lav. Big grin



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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:43 pm



Quoting Skydrol (Reply 27):
And stop the scare tactics!! On all the CMA B1900Ds I have been in, there is a LAV...

God have mercy on the poor souls who have to fly on a BE1900D with a pax that has the Hershey squirts. One small airplane+seats very close to the lavatory=one bad smelling airplane.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:28 pm

Thanks for the insite guys, today is the day! I am sitting in CLE as we speak waiting to get on my already delayed flight on the B1900! what i am concerned about is the snow activity going on in the area.

for those of you who want to stalk my flight it is Continental Connection/Gulfstream Int'l flight 9307. supposed to depart CLE at 1535 EST.

CLE airport in the D terminal is pretty much a non event. not many people or planes around. i will give it to the architech tho. those slanted windows do make for some good pictures.
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:02 pm

If you've ever flown on a B-17 then you'll love the 1900. All you need is a waist gun position.
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:20 am



Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 37):
God have mercy on the poor souls who have to fly on a BE1900D with a pax that has the Hershey squirts. One small airplane+seats very close to the lavatory=one bad smelling airplane.

The event you suggest is not really that bad. After all, there is a blue-water flush toilet.

Now consider the same situation in a 19 seat B1900D without a lav. Not a pretty sight... not at all...

Makes it worth sacrificing one seat to have a lav on board an 18 seat B1900D and avoid such a disaster!



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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:12 am



Quoting Skydrol (Reply 40):

Having known some BE1900D pilots, I know very well of that situation from the stories they have told. While I was just having fun with my last post, on a more serious note, I remember flying on a NW 757 LAX-HNL once when a woman changed the diaper of her child in the lavatory. All I can say was wow...the airplane reeked to the point of passengers complaining to the F/As (like what can they really do?)
 
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RE: What Is It Like Flying On A Beech 1900D?

Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:04 pm



Quoting Skymiler (Reply 13):
I flew BOS -> BTV about a year ago on Big Sky and it was kinda fun



Quoting Skymiler (Reply 13):
(I used to fly myself, but since have decided that seats 0A and 0B belong to somebody else while I sit in 2 A or B and enjoy a cocktail!!).

You were on a BigSky 1900 and had a cocktail served to you? Say whaaaat?

Quoting TN757Flyer (Reply 12):
Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 10):
SWM = Swearingen Metroliner?

Yeah, years ago when I lived in Dallas, a friend who used to work for Rio told me that was the "loving" phrase used by many rampers and pilots for the Metroliner.

What was the loving phrase?

Quoting DUALRATED (Reply 17):
Don't sit in the last row!

That last row was a killer - esp that middle seat that should never have been put there.
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