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Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:14 am

IL-86#ID4205449" target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...searchid=4205449&s=IL-86#ID4205449

The above thread is now archived so I thought I'd start a new one in the hope of establishing some options for flying on an IL-86. Not only options but also how to book, as Aeroflot-Don, for example, only has a Russian website. It seems also that D9 flights are not displayed in Amadeus.

In the previous thread, user Loran mentioned that the weekly Ural Airlines IL-86 flight to Antalya was bookable on the Ural Airlines website, but I can't see Antalya listed there. I guess this is a summer flight.

I'm considering a (first) trip to Russia as early as February with the primary aim of getting a flight on the IL-86. I live in the UAE and beleive Aeroflot-Don may operate from DXB (to Rostov?) but can't find any way of displaying these flights or seeing what aircraft type is operated.

It seems the most difficult part of flying the IL-86 is finding and booking a flight! Hope we can put our heads together and share some options. Any advice appreciated.
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:53 am

DXB-ROV operated by Boeing 737-500.

Вылет:

01:00

Прибытие:

06:10

Вт, 17-фев-09

Ростов , RU (ROV)

Вт, 17-фев-09

Дубаи , AE (DXB)

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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:17 am



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
Not only options but also how to book, as Aeroflot-Don, for example, only has a Russian website. It seems also that D9 flights are not displayed in Amadeus.

Aeroflot Don actually has a booking engine in english. Just go to their web site and click at the left on "online booking". I have to admit the booking tool does not work very nice,it's hard to find something in there  Smile.
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:20 pm

Has Aeroflot Don given a schedule for withdrawing these beasts, I seem to remember something about them getting pulled soonish? Anyway, here's how I did it; most of the summer holiday flights which the Aeroflot group operate can be booked through their website, so I played around a bit until I found the ones operated by Aeroflot Don and the Il-86 - it took a while, but the site it in full English and works well.

I booked SIP-SVO-GYD on the Il-86 and Tu154, payment taken no problem, but I did have to go to their ticket office to have them issued, presumably because of the Don flights. Total cost was from €179 one way in Economy, but I booked in Business Cass for €279 one way, all in. DXB was also possible from SIP via SVO - prices were much much higher though, because itineraries within the former Soviet Union are still classed as internal flight, hence are faaar cheaper. You could probably fly into somewhere like that though and then carry on to DXB on EK/local airline cheaper. In fact, you could have some real fun; user Pe@rson had a play about on their site sent me some possibly itineraries to the Russian Far-East on Il-96/Tu204/Tu154 and I think the Il-62 as well for €200-300 one way, but that would have meant getting a visa, so I had to give them a miss.


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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:13 pm

What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:37 pm



Quoting EDDL (Reply 4):
What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?

There are no flights showing ILW in Amadeus for this route.

The only routs showing ILW in Amadeus show another aircraft type when you try and book it through the Ural website.

I can't find any ILW flights with Aeroflot Don or S7.

I shan't give up, but it is certainly proving difficult so far. I only have so much patience with these airlines' websites.
 
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Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:13 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 5):

I have been looking for a IL 86 for quite some time now but I havn´t found anything. My source were pictures of flying IL86 on A.Net´s photodata base. I might check again on Tuesday when I am back in office but I have little hopes o find some flights.  Smile
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:49 pm

Unfortunately S7 withdrew all the Russian types from their fleet in November of last year, they hadn't planned to do this straight until late 2009, but high oil prices and the lagging Russian economy meant they brought forward these retirements.

As far as I'm aware, Aeroflot Don don't operate the Il-86 during the winter - it's just put on peak routes for extra summer capacity, once I'd flown the example back to SVO all five were present at the airport, so I don't think they see much use. Keep an eye on destinations like Simferopol or Sochi though, because they can't venture to many destinations outside of the former Soviet Union due to noise regulations. The latter though has five rotations from MOW a day with the Tu154 in the summer, so perhaps one of these will be upgraded to an Il86.

Maybe these links regarding Atlant Soyouz Airlines may help you:

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080401/102730827.html

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3988275/


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Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:48 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):

I asked a friend of mine who is a little into Russian aviation and he told me the best thing is to go during summer to MOW and get a ticket right at the counter. Sochi is always a good opportunity as well as flights to SSH or AYT.  Smile
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:38 pm

I found out today that Pulkovo/Rossiya has retired them. I have also read that Atlant-Soyuz has parked theirs up since the B738s arrived.

Looks like Ural Airlines and Aeroflot-Don are the only ones left. I've e-mailed a contact in Moscow who is doing some digging for me with Ural Airlines, so we shall see.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):
As far as I'm aware, Aeroflot Don don't operate the Il-86 during the winter - it's just put on peak routes for extra summer capacity, once I'd flown the example back to SVO all five were present at the airport, so I don't think they see much use. Keep an eye on destinations like Simferopol or Sochi though, because they can't venture to many destinations outside of the former Soviet Union due to noise regulations. The latter though has five rotations from MOW a day with the Tu154 in the summer, so perhaps one of these will be upgraded to an Il86.

Cheers. I'd noticed these destinations on flightstats when I searched for the ILW.

So what are your plans for this year's flying, Dan? My priority is the IL-86 but a trip to Syria to nab the Tu-134 & Yak-40 might also be in order - it is very easy from here yet I've put it off for nearly 4 years. Can't find any information on what the Trast Aero BAC One Elevens are up to, if anything and wish I'd gone to Kazakhstan in 2007 when they were flying to SCAT, or known about the one operating for Djibouti Airlines in April 2008. Bagged an IL-18 last month though Big grin. You going to Moldova for the airevents trip? I was going to but it is just a bit too expensive considering I'd also have to get there from AUH.
 
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Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:51 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 9):
So what are your plans for this year's flying, Dan? My priority is the IL-86 but a trip to Syria to nab the Tu-134 & Yak-40 might also be in order - it is very easy from here yet I've put it off for nearly 4 years. Can't find any information on what the Trast Aero BAC One Elevens are up to, if anything and wish I'd gone to Kazakhstan in 2007 when they were flying to SCAT, or known about the one operating for Djibouti Airlines in April 2008. Bagged an IL-18 last month though . You going to Moldova for the airevents trip? I was going to but it is just a bit too expensive considering I'd also have to get there from AUH.

Unfortunately I've not got many plans aside of the Il-18, just finish university and then try and get a job - this time last year I could have walked straight into one on a fairly decent salary, but since people stopped building houses and making developments there has been less need for Landscape Architects.  Sad That said, if I can I'm aiming to get to DXB via DOH so I can fly on one QR's A346, and then take Biman to Dacar so I can fly the B742. Do you know if it's definitely operating on these routes?

Good luck with the Il-86 - it's an amazing beast!  yes 


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Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:46 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 10):
That said, if I can I'm aiming to get to DXB via DOH so I can fly on one QR's A346, and then take Biman to Dacar so I can fly the B742. Do you know if it's definitely operating on these routes?

The BG B742 has been purely flying the DAC-JED route over the past few months. The current timetable according to Amadeus is as follows:

25FEB-24MAR MTWTFSS DAC JED JEDDAH.SA
1.34.67 2215DAC 0245JED*1 BG 035 747 YMTQN 0
.2..5.. 2215DAC 0445JED*1 BG 037 747 YMQTN 1

25FEB-24MAR MTWTFSS JED DAC DHAKA.BD
12.45.7 0345JED 1255DAC BG 036 747 YMTQN 0
..3..6. 0545JED 1715DAC BG 038 747 YMQTN 1


This keeps the B742 busy for the entire week. On days 2 & 5 the aircraft operates via CGP so it is possible to catch a ride on the domestic portion either way, your best bet being CGP-DAC on day 3 or 6 for the daylight.

Myself and a friend went to DAC last month with the aim of flying the B742, F28 & DC-10 with BG. The plan was as follows:

AUH-DAC EY A332
DAC-CGP BG B742
CGP-DAC BG F28
DAC-KTM BG DC10
KTM-BAH GF A343
BAH-AUH EY A332

The biggest problem with BG domestic flights is that you simply can't book them from outside Bangladesh, unless I guess as part of a through fare. We even visited the BG GSA here in AUH and they said that BG domestics could only be booked from within Bangladesh.

We arrived in Bangladesh and immediately tried for any combination of domestic flights which could include the F28 and/or the B742 but the BG schedule for that weekend was very different from that published in Amadeus. As it happenned, all flights were full and we didn't take any domestic flights. We hung on for 36 hours in Dhaka and just continued up to Kathmandu on the DC-10, which was great of course.

By the way, that weekend the B742 was operating to AUH (where we'd just come from!) and on to JED. I was in JED a few days later (to get on my IL-18) and noticed that a DC-10 was operating for Biman instead of the B742, so it does seem to get allocated to other flights - but in true Biman style these changes are last minute and unpredictable.

If you're going to go to Bangladesh, I reccommend avoiding Eid or any other holidays. At least then you have a chance of getting on some domestic flights. I hope to go back at some point this year, primarily to get on the F28, but we shall see.

If you decide to fly JED-DAC or vice versa on the BG B742, you don't need a visa for Saudi Arabia provided you are transiting within 8 hours. This is how I got away with it for the IL-18 trip JED-JIB.
 
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Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:20 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
If you decide to fly JED-DAC or vice versa on the BG B742, you don't need a visa for Saudi Arabia provided you are transiting within 8 hours. This is how I got away with it for the IL-18 trip JED-JIB.

Wow! Thank you so much for that information, the bit about a Saudi Visa is especially useful as this has put me off the idea of flying via JED in the past. On paper the trip doesn't look too expensive, but you never know what other costs you may experience whilst away.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
The biggest problem with BG domestic flights is that you simply can't book them from outside Bangladesh, unless I guess as part of a through fare. We even visited the BG GSA here in AUH and they said that BG domestics could only be booked from within Bangladesh.

Had a similar problem in London when I visited the Biman ticket office, only to be told that they weren't authorised to sell tickets on Biman, not even international ones. A ticket office not authorised to sell tickets on it's own airline - it was one of the funniest things I've ever heard!  rotfl  I was though given a number for some backstreet travel agent who could get me tickets, supposedly even internal flights, but it was almost impossible to get through to and not very helpful when I eventually did.

I need to do it rally, as I still haven't been on a B747-200, and that's one type I desperately want to fly on.


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Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:50 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
I need to do it rally, as I still haven't been on a B747-200, and that's one type I desperately want to fly on.

Funnily enough, the -200 was the last one for me to get a flight on too. In order:

B744: VS/UA
B743: PK
B741SR/SUD: OX
B747SP: IR
B742M: PK

Anyway let me know how you get on.


Hopefully I'll have some more IL-86 info i the next few days. I'll share it here if I do.
 
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Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:50 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):
Funnily enough, the -200 was the last one for me to get a flight on too. In order:

B744: VS/UA
B743: PK
B741SR/SUD: OX
B747SP: IR
B742M: PK

Anyway let me know how you get on.

Will do! If only Saudi had more -200s or if Iran allowed a transit time without Visa then I could probably get on one easily, come to think of it I think the latter does so long as you're through booked on IR flights.

I started at the rarer end of the spectrum; my first 747 flight being AirEvents' tour from CGN with IR's B747-100. Since then I've got on a bunch of 744s and one of RB's SPs, but still need the other two. I doubt the -300 would be too hard, but even that's getting illusive nowadays.

Good luck, hope the Il-86 information is promising!

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Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:11 am



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):

I finally found one:


U6 219 D SVX AER 1310 1425 0 01JUN09 30SEP09 ILW 6:20


So who wants to go? Big grin
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:40 am



Quoting EDDL (Reply 4):
What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 5):
There are no flights showing ILW in Amadeus for this route.



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 15):
I finally found one:


U6 219 D SVX AER 1310 1425 0 01JUN09 30SEP09 ILW 6:20

I have found another!! Thanks for the in fo EDDL!!

U6 265 5 DME SVX 2200 0210+1 0 23JAN09 30JAN09 ILW 2:10

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Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:51 am



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 16):
U6 265 5 DME SVX 2200 0210+1 0 23JAN09 30JAN09 ILW 2:10

Funny this one is only on Day 5 so I assume they use it somewhere else as well.  Smile
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:13 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 15):
I finally found one:

U6 219 D SVX AER 1310 1425 0 01JUN09 30SEP09 ILW 6:20

Amadeus isn't showing that flight. Where are you getting your info from? I have a feeling the U6 schedule in Amadeus is out of date and/or incomplete:

Now
28JAN-24FEB MTWTFSS SVX AER SOCHI.THR.RU
....5.. 0955SVX 1250AER U6 217 TU5 Y 1
1...... 1420SVX 1725AER U6 305 TU5 Y 1

Same period you showed
1JUN-28JUN MTWTFSS SVX AER SOCHI.THR.RU
....5.. 0955SVX 1250AER U6 217 TU5 Y 1
1...... 1420SVX 1725AER U6 305 TU5 Y 1

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 16):
I have found another!!

U6 265 5 DME SVX 2200 0210+1 0 23JAN09 30JAN09 ILW 2:10

Where I'm looking I get 'Equipment Varies' - not day-specific equipment info for that flight:

1234567 2200DME 0210SVX*1 U6 265 EQV Y 0

Since that flight is not a daylight flight it wouldn't be top of the list but the summer SVX-AER option looks good.
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:20 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 18):
Amadeus isn't showing that flight. Where are you getting your info from? I have a feeling the U6 schedule in Amadeus is out of date and/or incomplete:

It does ( I am using it) I used : TN1A10AUGSVXAER ( AN1A10AUGSVXAER)

It ops only from 01 Jun till 30 Sep.
 
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:37 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 19):
It does ( I am using it) I used : TN1A10AUGSVXAER ( AN1A10AUGSVXAER)

It ops only from 01 Jun till 30 Sep.

I'm bringing up the schedules in RTB DCS - it should be linked to the latest Amadeus info but I guess it is not!

Anyway - it is great that you found the SVX-AER flights. Looks like I'll plan a trip for June. However, according to U6's website the return fare starts at EUR721!!! Surely this is not right. Anyway, I'm going to try a few backstreet travel agents here in AUH. U6 fly from DXB so there must be some agents for U6 here. I just can't find any details on the net as to who they are.

I'll probably fly EY up to DME and take a U6 Tu-154 from there. If the Interavia IL-62s are still flying it'd be great to fly one of those. I flew a Cubana one a couple of years ago and it was simply amazing so I'd like my colleague from here to experience it too. U6 are flying AN-24s too, so that may also be in order.
 
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:06 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
I'm bringing up the schedules in RTB DCS

I used that too but thanks I got Amadeus now.  Smile

I am thinking about taking the ILW as well but I won´t have time in June. I am looking at August for a quick AER-SVX or vice versa. Would be great if you get some information about the fares and share it.  Smile
 
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Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:40 am



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
If the Interavia IL-62s are still flying it'd be great to fly one of those.

Be sure to post in here if you find they still are - the Il-62 is a most glaring omission from my logbook!


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Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:33 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
If the Interavia IL-62s are still flying
The homepage is not existing anymore.... I believe they are not flying any more but since there is not so much to do currently I will have a search.  

EDIT:

I found one:

1 ZA 621 26 DME GDX 1850 1000+1 0 04OCT08 24MAR09 IL6 7:10

BUT it is only shown in the timetable but if you search for availability it is not there so I believe it is really gone. Sad

[Edited 2009-01-29 00:39:52]
 
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Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:26 am

About the IL-62, is Cubana still flying them? There are a few pics from CCS with the IL-62, but the mainstay seems to be the TU-204 (based on jp.net photos) however, I can't really find any real info.
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Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:35 am



Quoting JRadier (Reply 24):
About the IL-62,

Yes they do, mostly to CCS. This is the weekly schedule:


CU2310 6 HAV CCS I 0500 0845 0 31JAN09 31JAN09 IL6 3:15
CU1310 4 HAV CCS I 0605 0950 0 05FEB09 26MAR09 IL6 3:15
CU 312 17 HAV CCS I 0730 1100 0 01FEB09 02FEB09 T20 3:00
CU 312 35 HAV CCS I 1015 1400 0 04FEB09 13MAR09 T20 3:15
CU3312 6 HAV CCS I 1500 1845 0 31JAN09 31JAN09 IL6 3:15

The T20 is also tempting. Big grin The only thing is that that there are no IL6 in the schedule for the summertime but I suppose they are simply not loaded.
 
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Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:06 am



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 25):
The T20 is also tempting. Big grin The only thing is that that there are no IL6 in the schedule for the summertime but I suppose they are simply not loaded.

Cheers! I guess that might bring opportunities. Perhaps LGW-HAV (IL-96), HAV-CCS-HAV (twice for the IL-62) HAV-SDQ (T20) might be a nice thing for the summer. Let's hope they will load them and the prices are right!
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Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:02 pm

The Cubana schedules are the most exotic you can find actually as:

CU 250 5 HAV 3 NAS 1310 1450 0 30JAN09 28FEB09 AN6 1:40

An Antonov AN-26 scheduled. Amazing!!

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Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:28 pm



Quoting EDDL (Reply 4):
What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?

I did try that one in September. Checked again before i left for Russia, and it still showed a IL86. Unfortunately when it was time to fly it it turned up to be a TU5. Even if it was the b-version it was still a big disappointment.
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Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:58 pm



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):


If you decide to fly JED-DAC or vice versa on the BG B742, you don't need a visa for Saudi Arabia provided you are transiting within 8 hours. This is how I got away with it for the IL-18 trip JED-JIB.

I just checked on Timatic (on the Continental website) and it gave me a max 18hr layover. If it was more than 6 hours I could even leave the airport.

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/apps/travel/passport/default.aspx
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:54 am

I am glad I have found this thread  Smile

I also have been following closely all Il-86 and Il-62 retirements, and it really hurt Sad

Somewhere I picked up rumors that a new major russian airline called Rosavia will be set up as a competition to Aeroflot, and they apparently will inherit most of the assets from Internavia, Domodedovo, etc.? But googling 'Rosavia' will return almost nothing?

Good to see that the Il-62 is still in the Cubana schedules, I would have thought it is retired by now. I am also confident that there will be some Ural or Aeroflot-Don ILWs flying in the next summer schedule, but equipment change is always a possibility.

If I could only book Air Koryo's BKK flight..... but they dont operate it every week, but at least its guaranteed an Il-62.

Btw, may I ask how all of you get access to the schedules in the system? I am really struggling to find this info, thanks  Smile

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Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:25 am



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
In the previous thread, user Loran mentioned that the weekly Ural Airlines IL-86 flight to Antalya was bookable on the Ural Airlines website, but I can't see Antalya listed there. I guess this is a summer flight.

The Ural website did only show flights one month ahead of the date I posted, and I remember seeing an ILW for one of the weekly Antalya flights, although it was during the winter schedule, strange. Also, I think I came across an Ural IL-86 picture in the database from late last year operating the moscow flight.

The reason why I think Ural or Aeroflot-Don are the most likely airlines to still operate an Il-86 this year is that I haven't heard of any retirement plans. But as seen with Atlant Soyuz, S7 and Pulkovo these sometimes come on short notice. Keep the fingers crossed that they will survive until the summer schedule.

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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:27 am

An IL86 has found a new home in Libya with Global Aviation - source: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/showphotos.main?from=1

Heres their website from the side of the aircraft http://web.global-aviationgroup.com/

Not the most convincing website, but it seems they do operate scheduled cargo flights already with an IL76 MJI - SAW & BEN - DXB, even if the scheduled service planned for 2Q 2007 havent yet come to pass.

Maybe we can all chip in at charter the bird Big grin
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:35 pm



Quoting Loran (Reply 30):
Somewhere I picked up rumors that a new major russian airline called Rosavia will be set up as a competition to Aeroflot, and they apparently will inherit most of the assets from Internavia, Domodedovo, etc.? But googling 'Rosavia' will return almost nothing?

To be more specific "The basis for the formation of Rosavia will be the route network and fleet of Atlant-Soyuz Airlines (3G), Rossiya (FV), Kavminvodyavia (KV), Orenburg Airlines (R2), Saravia (6W) and Vladivostok Air (XF) and the former members of AiRUnion."

source: http://www.newslab.ru/news/274602
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:24 pm

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 33):
To be more specific "The basis for the formation of Rosavia will be the route network and fleet of Atlant-Soyuz Airlines (3G), Rossiya (FV), Kavminvodyavia (KV), Orenburg Airlines (R2), Saravia (6W) and Vladivostok Air (XF) and the former members of AiRUnion."

Thanks for the info. Sounds like a very interesting fleet  

Starting up an airline unsing Il-86's and -62's might not really be competitive, unless they only use the newer equipment. Well, I dont mind, I just hope that these birds will not end up getting scrapped. Unfortunately I am not fluent in russian language, is there any info on the anticipated fleet and fleet size? The only thing I was able to understand was the figure '2012', does this mean they will take off for the first time in 3 years? Thanks.

Loran

EDIT: Ok, through Google Translate I got the basic idea, it says that by the year 2012 the annual volume will be 20 Mio Passangers.

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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:55 am



Quoting Loran (Reply 30):
Btw, may I ask how all of you get access to the schedules in the system? I am really struggling to find this info, thanks

Because some of us ( like me) work in the aviation industry with schedules on a daily basis.  Smile

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 32):
Maybe we can all chip in at charter the bird

Count me in! Airevents.de had a possibility to actually fly on a Il 76 in Belarus I think. Unfortunately it was to expensive for me. Sad

Quoting Loran (Reply 34):
Starting up an airline unsing Il-86's and -62's might not really be competitive

Who cares. Big grin as long as they keep them flying! Big grin
 
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:29 pm



Quoting Loran (Reply 34):
Starting up an airline unsing Il-86's and -62's might not really be competitive, unless they only use the newer equipment.

They will use the modern equipment, especially FV will receive modern aircraft the next few years (A343, An148 and the usual 737s/319s). The eastern division (there will be 3 division; west/central/east) of Rosavia probably will receive most older aircraft for their KHV base. VKO, LED and KJA will be the other 3 bases, with VKO as main base.

Quoting Loran (Reply 34):
is there any info on the anticipated fleet and fleet size?

Fleet will be modern western jets 319/320/343/737/767, plus TU 204/214, SSJ100, AN148 and MS-21.

Quoting Loran (Reply 34):
does this mean they will take off for the first time in 3 years?

No date has been officially set. The debt recognition of AiRunion is still in the Moscow court. However Rosavia officially has been founded on January 16, 2009.
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:08 am



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
This is how I got away with it for the IL-18 trip JED-JIB.

Is this one still flying? Which airline is it and any retirement plans for this bird? I wish I could join the airevents Il-18 trip, but unfortunately it is too far away from where I am.

Also, if you get any more information on Il-86's, I would be glad if you could share it here, thanks  Smile

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 36):
They will use the modern equipment, especially FV will receive modern aircraft the next few years (A343, An148 and the usual 737s/319s).

Oh well, not really exciting but sounds like a competitive fleet. I think on CH-aviation I saw some Tu-154's being assigned to Rosavia.

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Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:42 am



Quoting Loran (Reply 37):
Is this one still flying? Which airline is it and any retirement plans for this bird? I wish I could join the airevents Il-18 trip, but unfortunately it is too far away from where I am.

http://www.daallo.biz/companyprofile.asp


It must be Daallo Airlines but their profile says now that they have no more IL 18´s. They used to serve Somalia with the IL 18 a lot.


As for the airevents trip I wish I could go too but the 500 euros is too much and I do not want to spent my time in Moldavia to be honest. + / - 2 days is too much time to wait.  Smile
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:12 am

Daallo are still using the IL-18s. The only international (non-Somalia) routes they use them for are the weekly flights from JIB to JED and NBO. The NBO flight is direct outbound, but stops at 3 different cities in Somalia on the way back.

Re the Ural IL-86s, fares on the SVX-AER flights are very expensive according to the U6 website. Something like 400 Euros return.
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:08 am

Browsing the CH-Aviation fleet list of the Il-86, I saw all 9 Atlant-Soyuz and 3 Rossiya airframes beeing assigned to Rosavia.

Can anyone provide please an insight in what is going to happen to these aircraft? User Viasa maybe? Are these seriously going to fly for this new airline?

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Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:23 pm



Quoting Loran (Reply 40):
Browsing the CH-Aviation fleet list of the Il-86, I saw all 9 Atlant-Soyuz and 3 Rossiya airframes beeing assigned to Rosavia.

That would be great but I try not to take any chances and go early August from SVX to AER.  Smile

( plus I will try to include a Tu 154  Smile )
 
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Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:26 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 41):
That would be great but I try not to take any chances and go early August from SVX to AER.

( plus I will try to include a Tu 154 )

I intend to do the same after late June. Have you priced any flights up? The fares I got on the Ural Airlines website seemed very high to me, for a domestic flight.
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:51 pm

Yes, it is. I got 174€ which is quite high as my intended return to MOW from AER on SU is only 71€ on the Tu-154.

But I believe that it is worth it.  Smile
 
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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:55 pm

I flew on AeroCaribbean´s IL-18 from Havana to Nassau around Easter in 2007, and will go to Moldova in April to fly the type a second time. Also managed to get two different trips on an (all white painted) SU IL-86, SVO-Antalya-SVO and SVO-Antalya the same year. Still looking for a flight on the IL-62  Smile
 
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:35 am

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Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:12 pm

Fantastic! Big grin

Any idea where it is flying too?  Smile
 
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:15 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 46):
Any idea where it is flying too?

My question exactly!!
 
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:30 pm

Bingo! Big grin

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RE: Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?

Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:09 pm

So I guess this was a charter flight.

Looks like the only chance of an IL-86 flight is still SVX-AER this summer with U6.

If anyone finds any other options please let me know.

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