KingAirMan
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Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:11 pm

Now,

I realize this may sound like a dumb question, but lately I have been on the hunt for deals and offers/ last minute specials, as well as standard 21 day advanced purchase airfare, and It always seems that Houston cost quite a bit to get to from IND or ORD. I've also noticed continental never has fare sales to houston, but only EWR and CLE. AA occasionaly will have a 99.00 each way from ORD-IAH like they do next weekend but it is rare. What is it about thsi market that airlines tend to charge so much for ( specifically the IND-IAH ) market?

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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:52 pm

Resiliently strong business environment in Houston, the City is more diversified than just oil these days. I recently read somewhere the Houston economy is really strong, and thus far is probably doing better than any other region in the US.
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:00 pm

i see sales all the time...............we were just advertising on www.continental.com sales to Mexico last week. My friend booked a trip to GCM r/t from IAH for $299 next month!!
 
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:29 pm

Like CALMSP, I too see good deals from Houston (both airports) quite frequently. With regards to ORD, it would seem that with 3 carriers operating that route from IAH as well as WN from HOU/MDW, that there would be quite a few good deals to Chi-Town.

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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:30 pm

I'm trying to get one way HOU-ATL tickets, but I'm checking fares for ATL-HOU-ATL too. What I have noticed is that the HOU-ATL fare is very cyclical. When I first checked, I got about $88. Within a week, it was $138, $158 and finally $163. I thought no one in their right mind would pay that kind of money for the trip...sure enough in three days it was $88 again. And when I checked yesterday it was $163 (surprise!).

Another thing is that DL, CO, and FL ALWAYS have the same fare at any given time. They even switch from $88 to $163 in the same time span.
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:47 pm



Quoting Kingairman (Thread starter):
I realize this may sound like a dumb question, but lately I have been on the hunt for deals and offers/ last minute specials, as well as standard 21 day advanced purchase airfare, and It always seems that Houston cost quite a bit to get to from IND or ORD. I've also noticed continental never has fare sales to houston, but only EWR and CLE. AA occasionaly will have a 99.00 each way from ORD-IAH like they do next weekend but it is rare. What is it about thsi market that airlines tend to charge so much for ( specifically the IND-IAH ) market?

Have you been checking fares from IAH (and ORD) exclusively, or are you including WN out of HOU (and MDW) as well? Regardless, I very frequently see IAH/HOU-ORD/MDW available for a base fare under $100 each way. Looking at random date ranges in March, it appears that all-in r/t fares of ~$215 are pretty widely available on AA, CO, and UA...seems like a very reasonable fare to me.

Likewise, I see IAH-IND available for $237 on CO. The slight increase over CHI is not surprising considering they have no competition on the non-stop Houston-Indy market. I wouldn't expect too many sales to beat these prices substantially, but if you're looking for something better, your only bet is probably to watch for random weekend specials and/or download Ding! from WN.
 
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:00 pm



Quoting N867DA (Reply 4):
Another thing is that DL, CO, and FL ALWAYS have the same fare at any given time. They even switch from $88 to $163 in the same time span.

Do you find that surprising? (I don't)

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 3):
as well as WN from HOU/MDW, that there would be quite a few

Therein lies the answer to the question raised by the title of this topic. Depending on whether there is competition from Southwest (WN) there will be a (typically) dramatic difference in fares between various city pairs. HOU is probably close enough to IAH for WN to have a downward effect on fares from IAH to a significant degree ...but, generally speaking, only in markets common to WN and the various legacy airlines. Probably not at all unlike my hometown airport PHX where the self-proclaimed low-fare airline US Airways has a pronounced tendency to live up to its own press only to/from markets in which they compete with WN.

Also, IAH may tend to be a relatively high fare market due to CO's dominance, WN at HOU notwithstanding, and the fact that it is a major hub for CO which means they don't have as large a number of seats they need to fill with O&D pax as one might assume based on the volume of flights they offer to/from IAH.
 
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:21 pm

UA had ONT-DEN-IAH and back from $166 earlier this month... I should've scooped it up, but I was stupid and waited... Now I'm not getting anything better than $260 or so from the LA area, which isn't terrible, but I should've taken that sale.
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:36 pm

Simple answer...

Check LFT, BTR, SHV, LCH, AEX, MLU, etc....

You'll see that your everyday fares are huge sales compared to what we endure.
 
KingAirMan
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:37 pm

I havent seen the 232 IND-IAH fare in a while. ORD/MDW are both about 2-2.5 hours away so IND is usually much more conv. As stated above the IND-IAH fares are very cyclical, more so than any I have seen to many other destinations offered from Indianapolis. Im not looking for a steal of a deal, I'd say anything betwen 200-250 is about what I'd usually like to pay for the trip. Occasionally I will settle for somewhere closer to 300 depending on the urgency. I've been looking at some late week and weekend travel in march and Im still pulling up around 420 on CO.

Thanks for all the input! always interesting to see what is behind the market!
 
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:49 pm



Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
I recently read somewhere the Houston economy is really strong

Ill take it a step further. I would argue that Houston has a the most healthy economy than any other city in the USA. I envy them. Californias economy is in the crapper right now.
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steex
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RE: Why Are Houston Airfare Sales Rare?

Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:51 pm



Quoting Kingairman (Reply 9):
I've been looking at some late week and weekend travel in march and Im still pulling up around 420 on CO.

I don't understand how this could be unless your schedule is very fixed to specific times/weekends. For a typical Friday-Sunday weekend trip, I'm seeing $260 or less available on the CO non-stops the weekends of 3/13 and 3/27. The weekend of 3/20 is more expensive, but it's still well under $400 on the CO non-stops (and some NW one-stop routings are available under $300). Expanding your trip to avoid the Friday or Sunday travel seems to only reduce the cost (if changing it at all).

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