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AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:35 pm

hello
I'll have a business trip to Shanghai in a few weeks but I still don't know which flight number it will be. First flight is YUL - YYZ from where I might fly on a B77L or B763 to PVG.

I know the 77L are brand new and very compfortable with PTV. What about the 763, beside behing pretty old? I heard there was a retrofit programe to modernize their cabin (new business cabin, PTV everywhere, etc.). Are all 763 modernised? If not, what are my chances of having one on YYZ - PVG?

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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:39 pm

If you're flying YYZ-PVG nonstop, this will be on the 777 aircraft. However, if you're flying YYZ-PVG on the direct flight via YVR it'll be on the B763 which are all refurbished with the new interiors and Executive First Suites. There are still a couple of 763's without the new interior, but these don't fly to Asia...there mainly kept in NA and to the Caribbean.
 
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:10 pm



Quoting Dash9 (Thread starter):
I know the 77L are brand new and very compfortable with PTV. What about the 763, beside behing pretty old? I heard there was a retrofit programe to modernize their cabin (new business cabin, PTV everywhere, etc.). Are all 763 modernised? If not, what are my chances of having one on YYZ - PVG?

The AC 763s are incredible. I flew them on an 11hr flight YYZ-SCL, which is about the same duration as YVR-PVG (in case this is your flight). If you are in Executive Class, you will have a 1X1X1 configuration, which looks very comfortable and nice. In the Y cabin, there is a 2X3X2 configuration, which also works excellent. You should avoid the middle seats (as in any situation) but the 2 seating on either sides with the aisles and windows are awesome. You have a PTV with AVOD and XM satellite radio. The crew, cabin atmosphere, catering service, and overall quality on Air Canada has really made a strong turnaround. I was very impressed, as you will also be when you fly them. They truly are the best North American carrier.
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:22 pm

The three B767-300s which have not been refurbished will not be redone. They are the three leased ones which were due to be retired. Instead of 2 doors and 2 over-wing exits on each side, they have 4 doors, and do not mix with the rest of the fleet.

They have been kept only as a result of the B777 delays and are due to be retired this autumn.

To pick them out, they are configured 25J / 188Y, vice 24J / 187Y of the reconfigured aircraft.

It is very unlikely you will see them on an Asian route unless there has been an equipment substitution.
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:32 pm

The aircrafts have the same interior in terms of product. However, if you want to space your trip by having 2 flights - instead of one super long-flight, then the choice is easy
 
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:33 pm



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):
The three B767-300s which have not been refurbished will not be redone. They are the three leased ones which were due to be retired. Instead of 2 doors and 2 over-wing exits on each side, they have 4 doors, and do not mix with the rest of the fleet.

They have been kept only as a result of the B777 delays and are due to be retired this autumn.

The 3 non-standard AC 763s with the extra doors:


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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:21 pm

Does the 767 with 8 door hold less pax than the ones with 4 doors.

I'm guessing the extra doors probably take out more seating..
 
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:49 am



Quoting USAFDO (Reply 6):
Does the 767 with 8 door hold less pax than the ones with 4 doors.

As per LongHauler in reply 3:

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):

To pick them out, they are configured 25J / 188Y, vice 24J / 187Y of the reconfigured aircraft.

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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:02 am



Quoting Threepoint (Reply 7):
Quoting USAFDO (Reply 6):
Does the 767 with 8 door hold less pax than the ones with 4 doors.

As per LongHauler in reply 3:

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):

To pick them out, they are configured 25J / 188Y, vice 24J / 187Y of the reconfigured aircraft.

I think USAFDO was asking how the configurations for the 4-door and 8-door aircraft compared when they had comparable business class products with regular reclining seats. I can't remember what the 4-door 763 seating was before the XM conversion, although I think there were 2 or 3 variations due to the origins of the aircraft (AC vs Canadian aircraft etc.), and some had 25 J seats and some had 30.
 
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:06 am

Can someone confirm the 763-3Y0ER left with 4 doors were the power by the hour aircraft? If so are they now straight leases or are they still only billed by airtime?
 
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RE: AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai

Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:00 pm



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
I can't remember what the 4-door 763 seating was before the XM conversion, although I think there were 2 or 3 variations due to the origins of the aircraft (AC vs Canadian aircraft etc.), and some had 25 J seats and some had 30.

The two non XM versions (exCP and exAC) were 30J/173Y and 30J/182Y for the 4 door version, vice 25J/188Y for the 8 door version. But still, this may be comparing apples to oranges, as the 8 door version retained their Kenya Airways interior layout, but with AC seats.
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