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Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:46 am

I am wondering which is the longest route flown in Europe by a mainline carrier? I am thinking LIS-IST by TK, but might be wrong.

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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:51 am

Maybe TP new service LIS-DME.

And SU flight from SVO to AGP is long too.

But inside Russia there are A320 flights operated by SU from SVO to Siberia i.e Krasnoyarsk or Irkutsk which are between 5h and 6h in the sky...
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:14 pm

What about some of AY's charter runs to the canaries?
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:36 pm



Quoting AirGabon (Reply 1):
LIS-DME.

That might acctully be the longest one at 2437 miles (3922 km) according to GCM.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 2):
What about some of AY's charter runs to the canaries?

I was thinking about regular routes and not charter, but of course some of AY's charter flights to Madeira and and the Canary's might be ecually long  Smile

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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:34 pm

This all depends on how you are defining 'Europe' - Politically (including Greenland, French overseas Territories, Canaries ect...), or geographically (Only landmasses lying East of the Ural Mountains/Black Sea/Bospherous on the Eurasian tectonic plate)?

If you're taking the first option then you would have the following long flights:

CDG-LAX-PPT at 8485nm, flown by Air France and Air Tahiti Nui
BZZ-ASI-MPN at 7035nm, flown by the RAF of as a charter for them
CDG-RUN at 5048nm, flown by Air Austral (Plus AF and CorsairFly to ORY)

If you are taking the second definition then you would have these which are pretty long:

TFS-DME at 2844nm, flown by S7, Transaero and VIM
TFS-VKO at 2825nm, flown by KMV Avia
TFS-LED at 2690nm, flown by Rossiya
HEL-LPA at 2538nm, flown by Finnair
KBP-TFS at 2527nm, flown by AeroSvit
TFS-RIX at 2436nm, flown by SmartLynx
KEF-TFS at 2170nm, flown by IcelandAir and JetX(charter, IIRC)
SFJ-CPH at 1857nm, flown by Air Greenland and SAS
UAK-CPH at 1801nm, flown by Air Greenland


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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:10 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
Europe (..) Only landmasses lying East of the Ural Mountain

Ahem ... Make that "West" please ...  Wink
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:13 pm



Quoting HT (Reply 5):
Ahem ... Make that "West" please ...

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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:36 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
If you are taking the second definition then you would have these which are pretty long:

I am thinking of the second definition, so thanks for great feedback and a great laugh Big grin

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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:10 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
HEL-LPA at 2538nm, flown by Finnair

OUL-LPA charter by Finnair is slightly longer at 2700 nm.
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Fri May 01, 2009 9:27 am



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
This all depends on how you are defining 'Europe' - Politically (including Greenland, French overseas Territories, Canaries ect...), or geographically (Only landmasses lying East of the Ural Mountains/Black Sea/Bospherous on the Eurasian tectonic plate)?

If you're taking the first option then you would have the following long flights:

CDG-LAX-PPT at 8485nm, flown by Air France and Air Tahiti Nui
BZZ-ASI-MPN at 7035nm, flown by the RAF of as a charter for them
CDG-RUN at 5048nm, flown by Air Austral (Plus AF and CorsairFly to ORY)

If you are taking the second definition then you would have these which are pretty long:

TFS-DME at 2844nm, flown by S7, Transaero and VIM
TFS-VKO at 2825nm, flown by KMV Avia
TFS-LED at 2690nm, flown by Rossiya
HEL-LPA at 2538nm, flown by Finnair
KBP-TFS at 2527nm, flown by AeroSvit
TFS-RIX at 2436nm, flown by SmartLynx
KEF-TFS at 2170nm, flown by IcelandAir and JetX(charter, IIRC)
SFJ-CPH at 1857nm, flown by Air Greenland and SAS
UAK-CPH at 1801nm, flown by Air Greenland

Sorry ... but "geographically", the Canary Islands are in Africa .
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Fri May 01, 2009 12:19 pm

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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Fri May 01, 2009 3:38 pm



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 9):
Sorry ... but "geographically", the Canary Islands are in Africa .

In your world they might.
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Fri May 01, 2009 5:00 pm



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 11):

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 9):
Sorry ... but "geographically", the Canary Islands are in Africa .

In your world they might.

" Once known to the ancient Romans as the Fortunate Islands, the Canary Islands were named after the large dogs (Canes) found living on the islands.

Located off the northwestern coast of Africa, the Canary Islands are one of the most popular tourist destination on the planet, especially with Europeans.
"

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/canary.htm

Not only in my world apparently ...
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Fri May 01, 2009 5:10 pm



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 12):
Not only in my world apparently

Malta is located off the northern coast of Africa, so I suppose Malta belogs to Africa aswell? Cyprus is in Asia since it's located off the southern coast of Turkey?

This has been discussed to death  Wink Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Fri May 01, 2009 5:59 pm

Strictly speaking they are part of the Atlas Mountain range, and are located above a hotspot on the African Tectonic plate. I think the problem here originates from my omission of a single 'or' from my original post:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
or geographically (Only landmasses lying East [Ed - West]of the Ural Mountains/Black Sea/Bospherous [b]or]/b] on the Eurasian tectonic plate)?

Everybody seems to have different viewpoints on this, and it's actually very complex to define: If you take landmasses solely on the Eurasian tectonic plate as your definition, then Iceland becomes an issue; is it in Europe, or is it in North America, as the divide runs right through the middle of the country, and KEF/RKV is actually on the North American side. Furthermore, Sicily and Malta sit on the African Tectonic plate, whilst a large chunk of North Africa (which borders the Gibraltar Straights) is actually on the Eurasian Plate. Then you have most of Israel and Lebanon which are also on the African plate, not the Arabian plate, and Turkey and Greece which are split between the fragmented Aegean and Anatolia plates.

Hence when dealing with some parts of 'Europe' it's actually easier to assess it geographically along with territorial claims, to avoid confusion.


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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sat May 02, 2009 10:56 am



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):

If you're taking the first option then you would have the following long flights

Don't forget

CDG-RUN-SYD-NOU at 11,106 nm flown by UU




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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sat May 02, 2009 11:47 am



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 15):
Don't forget

CDG-RUN-SYD-NOU at 11,106 nm flown by UU

Good point - actually I think that must be the world's longest flight right now at 11,106nm!
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sat May 02, 2009 3:50 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 16):
Good point - actually I think that must be the world's longest flight right now at 11,106nm!

Well if multi-stop flights count, it's probably NZ's RTW trip.
 
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RE: Longest Route In Europe?

Sat May 02, 2009 5:24 pm



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 13):
Malta is located off the northern coast of Africa, so I suppose Malta belongs to Africa as well? Cyprus is in Asia since it's located off the southern coast of Turkey?

I agree and understand one can argue about Malta & Cyprus ... but, Hey ! there is no doubt the Archipelago of the Canary Islands belong to Africa.
The closest European coast (Cadiz South of Spain) is located some 1100km north of Lanzarote !

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