nomadic
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United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:03 pm

Tomorrow I will be flying United YVR-ORD-MIA. The upgrade to Economy Plus was only $88.00 and I thought I would give it a try. When checking the seat map today while printing my boarding passes I noticed that there were almost a dozen seats open in EP but the remainder of the economy cabin had no seats available, all had been selected.

My question is, if there are any late Y bookings, will the passenger be seated in the EP area or is the flight showing as sold out in Y.

I expect that any Y passenger who has not already done so will be encoureged to updrade to EP at check in. How about passenger that need to be re-seated for any reason. Would they be moved up to EP at no extra fare? It is not a huge ammount of money but I would hate to find out that late check-in passengers got the extra room for nothing while I paid for privilage.

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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:16 pm

When Y fills up with non-E+ seats, then any passenger that isn't able to select a seat at time of booking or check-in will be giving a departure management card. About 10 minutes prior to boarding, those passengers will be assigned seats. Many of them will luck out with Economy Plus. Although, the window and isle seats in E+ are usually taken and they are split up from the party they are traveling with and given middle, E+ seats, the last to fill up.
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:20 pm

All premiers, premier execs, 1ks and globals will be upgraded for free. That may open up economy seats. Also crews are advised not to allow pax to move around the cabin into the economy plus section. The crew is equipped with a hand held device allowing pax to upgrade onboard with a credit or debit card. The extra room in economy plus is substantial. A lot of times you have more room in the economy plus seats than in the first class bulkheads. I would get the economy plus seat if I were you. Also if you see pax moving around into the economy plus section from economy secretly let a flight attendant know and he or she should direct the pax back to his or her assigned seat. Customer Service Agents make announcements about upgrades to economy plus throughout the boarding process. Unfortunately people like to get a paid product for free and don't realize it is unfair for those people who actually paid for the product. UA should put a cabin cabin divider btwn the two sections.
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:29 pm

EP is such a joke. When I was traveling out of DSM to DEN or ORD the agents would just normally "throw" you up there. To me, EP is an indication if the ticketing agents like you or not. Because I have never paid for an EP upgrade but I always end up being there. I know you're probably thinking that the flight was full, but it was a 757 from DSM-DEN for the particular instance that I remember and it had 25-50 open seats.
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:48 pm

Welcome to MIA before they close the doors on the big jets and go Xpress in June. Enjoy the EP seat...fyi you were probably not able to see any seats in the exit rows...check with the gate agent and if no 1K or Global has snatched them all then you may get moved. (maybe 11a could be open on the ORDMIA leg...window exit row...best seat in the house on a Ted) Weather is high of 88 during the day..low 70's at night...and partly cloudy...for the next 5 days...a bummer...grin. Oh yeah...surf temp about 80 or so...onshore light winds...light chop in the bays and ocean will be pretty calm....bring sunscreen as we burn Canadians daily...hehehehe.
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:54 pm

I bought a seat on a flight that was oversold in Y and was given a free upgrade to EP. The check-in system offered an upgrade for a fee, but instead I declined and got it for free when they had no other seat for me. In retrospect it would've been worth paying for (SEA-IAD red eye).
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 9:58 pm



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 3):
EP is such a joke. When I was traveling out of DSM to DEN or ORD the agents would just normally "throw" you up there.

This has changed recently since they started charging for it.

You are NOT allowed to move up there on your own, and they will do everything they can to only put elites up there "for free." If that means leaving discount Y pax behind, they will.

My flight back from KOA to LAX had empty Y+ seats and the Y was completely full. It stayed that way, and I had a whole row to myself.
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 10:04 pm

Thanks for all of the input. I will be sure to report how things turned out when I get to Miami.

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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 10:34 pm



Quoting Nomadic (Reply 7):
Thanks for all of the input. I will be sure to report how things turned out when I get to Miami.

On a longer flight, I found the Y+ to be worth the extra money. It has exit row legroom and you board earlier than you would have otherwise. I'm tall, so the extra legroom was key. And because it's not an exit row the seats are "normal" Y, the seats aren't harder or narrower like most exit rows tend to be.
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 10:44 pm

After flying Spirit the week before, I would GLADLY take E or E+ on ANY of UA's aircraft.
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 06, 2009 10:45 pm



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 3):
When I was traveling out of DSM to DEN or ORD the agents would just normally "throw" you up there.

I travel YYC-SFO and YYC-ORD and I'm a relatively new Premier Exec.

From and to YYC on Skywest CR-7 flights, the normal is for the back of the plane to be *packed* and both First and Economy Plus nearly empty. And with most of the luggage and cargo in the tail of the plane, there is a balance problem.

I've been on planes on which the F/A *politely* requested volunteers to move further forward into the Economy Plus section so that the plane can safely rotate off the runway (well, they didn't say it that way)  Smile

So, there might be a little more to it then simply *throwing* people up front.
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Thu May 07, 2009 3:20 am



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 10):
So, there might be a little more to it then simply *throwing* people up front.

I'm talking about a 757 where the weight and balance is a little less of a factor than a CRJ. When I said "throw" it was more along the lines of saying that they really don't care where you're seated. Must be those DSM agents, they are rather nice. Now those CID and OMA agents....(joking).
 
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Thu May 07, 2009 5:06 pm

I've always been straight assigned a seat in E+, but then I've been an elite for a while at UA. But I do see the crew being very lax with passengers moving around, with the exception of Narita based crew who tend to be more strict with that.

The airline I've seen that strictly enforces the added legroom seat rule is VX - the crew obviously know if the seats are filled or not for the flight, and if someone takes a seat that's supposed to be empty the crew will tell them to move. Was on an empty LAX-SEA flight (the A319 had about 30 pax on board) and the FA came by to tell this guy who moved to the exit row that he didn't have to move back to his assigned seat, but he did have to choose another seat on the aircraft that wasn't an exit or bulkhead row.
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Fri May 08, 2009 3:30 am



Quoting AirmaleJUM (Reply 2):
All premiers, premier execs, 1ks and globals will be upgraded for free. That may open up economy seats.

Premiers and up will very rarely be 'upgraded' to E+. They are automatically able to pre-assign seats in E+ so unless E+ is completely full a Premier shouldn't be riding in the back. Might happen more often now with Jo Blow being able to purchase E+ after booking rather than having to wait it out until OLCI opened.

Quoting Evanbu (Reply 3):
When I was traveling out of DSM to DEN or ORD the agents would just normally "throw" you up there. To me, EP is an indication if the ticketing agents like you or not. Because I have never paid for an EP upgrade but I always end up being there.

I've only ever flown UA as a *Gold and getting freebies into E+ was rarely difficult, especially at Red Carpet Clubs. UA changed the rules a few years back so *Silver and *Golds couldn't pre-assign or get seats in E+ gratis. For a while after that rule changed I would plead ignorance with staff at RCCs and check-in about not having an E+ seat despite being *Gold. They often sympathised and said the rules changed but there were spare seats so I could have them. I remember one time finding an insanely cheap mileage run worthy ticket and the agent at BOS got me exit row E+ seats and some in F on my remaining six flights of the day  biggrin  Having a British accent, a smile and the fact my BP showed I was creditting to a UK based partner airline certainly helped in a lot of my cases. Wink

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 8):
On a longer flight, I found the Y+ to be worth the extra money.

Since E+ is priced on a per sector basis and almost directly correlates with flight length it always makes sense to upgrade IMO...unless you can score non-E+ exit row seats on the widebodies.
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RE: United Economy Plus Seating

Wed May 20, 2009 9:17 pm

Interesting, I'm pondering doing the same for an upcoming DEN-LHR flight. (June 6) Since it doesn't look like I can pick my E+ seat until AFTER I pay for it, (I can't see the seatmap for that section) what are the odds I'll get skunked with a middle seat? I don't know which is worse, a middle seat with legroom, or a better seat with no legroom...  Smile

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