WROORD
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Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:06 pm

I am going from ORD to DCA in September the ticket price is twice as expensive as MKE-DCA via ORD. Can I buy that ticket and simply start my trip from ORD?
 
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:16 pm

No, IIRC you are required to be checked in and on board each flight in succession or the remaining part of your itinerary will be canceled.

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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:32 am



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
No, IIRC you are required to be checked in and on board each flight in succession or the remaining part of your itinerary will be canceled.

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This is known at 'hidden city ticketing' and it is expressly forbidden in airline T&Cs.

Take for example SFO-DEN-JFK (Just theoretically - I have no idea whether its possible to through check on these routes, or if they even exist!).

Remember most airlines require you to travel all sectors of an itinerary for the next one to be valid, except in times of disruption obviously.

Therefore you have to board the aircraft in SFO, traveling DEN-JFK is not possible as missing the SFO-DEN sector will nullify the remainder of the itinerary (DEN-JFK).

It is possible to travel SFO-DEN and get off there, but if you have a return ticket it will be invalid and you won't be able to fly. It's relatively safe on a one way ticket, but don't make a habit of it or the airline will be onto you!
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:41 am

Honestly it depends on the airline and the airport. If you're checking bags, the answer is almost always no, as they aren't allowed to short-check bags.

But if not, the agent may let you. They'd have to delete the segments you aren't taking so the tickets don't zero out, but I've seen it done before.
 
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:57 pm

Thanks. I thought that the primary reason why this would not be allowed is security...anyways it is funny how they price those tickets...
 
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:39 am



Quoting WROORD (Reply 4):
I thought that the primary reason why this would not be allowed is security

Why would security care, you walk up, present a boarding pass for ORD-DCA, yoou go through the checkpoint.

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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:10 am



Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 5):
Why would security care, you walk up, present a boarding pass for ORD-DCA, yoou go through the checkpoint.

Because of an incident such as Air India Flight 182. A passenger checked in for a CP Air flight to Toronto, later to board Air India flight 182, YYZ-YMX-LHR. He had his bag checked through onto the Air India flight, despite refusal from the gate agent because he was not confirmed for the Air India flight yet. The passenger never boarded the CP Air flight, and his bag was checked through onto the Air India flight. Air India 182 exploded in over the Atlantic in Irish Airspace, with no survivors. One way of preventing this is: not allowing a bag to leave on a plane without the passenger. But I wonder about delays and such where the passenger leaves before the bag, or vice-versa, and they are on different flights?

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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:24 am

May be you can try looking up ORD-DCA-xxx and drop off in the middle? Just my two cents.
 
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:29 pm



Quoting Jetplaner (Reply 6):
But I wonder about delays and such where the passenger leaves before the bag, or vice-versa, and they are on different flights?

As this is an unplanned scenario and the passenger would obviously rather be WITH the bag, it's looked at quite differently. For example, last week I was confirmed on a flight ORD-BNA that was cxl'd due to weather, but they could get me on ORD-HSV and then I would rent a car. My bag was obviously still on its way to BNA, and got there the next morning on a flight without me. No biggy security wise, because I was confirmed on the original flight that the bag was destined for and the only reason I was not on it was beyond my control.
 
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:28 pm

But it still doesnt make sense that 2 flights are cheaper then 1...flying from the same airport to the same airport.
 
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:40 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 9):
But it still doesnt make sense that 2 flights are cheaper then 1...flying from the same airport to the same airport.

It doesn't make sense at all, it's pretty dumb IMO.

For example, BDL-PHL is $500+ while BDL-PHL-anywhere in Florida will be somewhere around 300 (and that's return fare). So you end op with more legs spending lot more fuel, more employees, etc, but it costs less. And then they wonder why they're losing money.
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:22 pm

I once found this out the hard way.

I was ticketed JNB-ZRH-DUS-ZRH-JNB.

I went to visit a friend in Freiburg and took the train to Düsseldorf instead of flying. When I checked in for my return flight at DUS I was told there was no reservation. Because I didn't fly ZRH-DUS the system automatically cancelled everything, so I was on standby for the return leg.
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:27 am

doing it that way is considered as using flight coupons out of sequence, which in the terms and conditions of the ticket means that your reservation is subject to cancellation.
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RE: Can You Fly Half Of Your Trip?

Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:50 am



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 10):
For example, BDL-PHL is $500+ while BDL-PHL-anywhere in Florida will be somewhere around 300 (and that's return fare). So you end op with more legs spending lot more fuel, more employees, etc, but it costs less. And then they wonder why they're losing money.

Very dumb, but probably the demand between BDL and PHL is much larger then the demand between BDL and Florida (which is probably flown by tourists) unlike the PHL which has business links.

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