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Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:24 am

Which airport asks the world's highest airport taxes? First and foremost I'm interested in airports where you have to pay it extra over the counter, not where it is incorporated into the ticket price. Example:
USH: Int. 18 US$, Dom. 8 US$
MVD: Int. 31 US$, to EZE 17 US$
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:54 am

LIM

International: 31 US$, Domestic: 5.84 US$

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:11 am

Why don't airlines inlcude the taxes with the fare? My experience a few years back in Thailand required a 500 Baht departure tax paid before going through immigration. This has since changed as it is included with the ticket price but I always wondered why???
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:30 am

Do Canadian airports still do this? I rememer back in the day when YVR introduced an "airport improvement fee" and collected, I think, $5 for intra BC flights, $10 other Canada, and $15 international on departure. I was right out of CAD and didn't have a credit card so I ended up having to change some GBP just to pay it! Argh!
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 am

UIO is $48,75 International if I recal correctly
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:10 am

You pay a 25 CUC (about 25 EUR, 30 USD) departure tax at Cuban airports for the privilege to be able to leave the country. No such tax on Cuban domestic flights though.
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:14 am

System here in NZ must be confusing for visitors. At AKL the $25 international departure tax is included in the ticket price. At CHC, WLG and DUD the pax has to pay separately.

Last time I was in the Philippines there was a P750 departure fee.
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:45 am



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 6):


Last time I was in the Philippines there was a P750 departure fee.

Still the case as of July
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:59 am



Quoting JRadier (Reply 7):

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 6):


Last time I was in the Philippines there was a P750 departure fee.

Still the case as of July

Oh well at least it hasn't gone up! It has between 2005 and 2008 it increased by 50% from P500 to 750.
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:01 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 4):
UIO is $48,75 International if I recal correctly

I did a lookup on my Creditcard account and came up with this:

In july 2008 I paid 17,19 Euro ($27,16 at that time) departing from GYE to AMS.
I can't recall what I paid in SJO (cash) and PTY and I'm not even sure I did pay anything departing from PTY.

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:06 am



Quoting JRadier (Reply 7):
Last time I was in the Philippines there was a P750 departure fee.

Still the case as of July

I forgot to ask, does this just apply at MNL or is it charged also at CRK and CEB?
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:22 am

Judging by how much it costs us to nonrev from there, I'd say London's taxes are up there. When I flew from LGW a couple summers ago, I paid about $130 in taxes, and I think LHR is even more, something like $180 or so, but I'd have to check on that to be exactly sure.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:26 am

The cost to non-rev out of CDG to the US are also about $180 US.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:32 am



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 12):
The cost to non-rev out of CDG to the US are also about $180 US.

What do you mean by "non-reving out of" ?
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:41 am



Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 13):
What do you mean by "non-reving out of" ?

For DL, we only pay departure taxes. So say I were to fly INTO LHR, which has very expensive taxes, but flew OUT of DUB which is considerably cheaper, I wouldn't have to pay the $180 to fly out of LHR, but the $45 or so to fly out of DUB. So, to avoid expensive airports some people will fly into their airport of choice but they'll travel to a different city to pay less taxes.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 12):
The cost to non-rev out of CDG to the US are also about $180 US.

Is it really?! I was thinking it was cheaper but I guess I'm glad that I didn't end up going there last week! Gotta love all the last minute tickets that steal my seat!
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:46 am

Some of them are:

BOG 33 USD
UIO 40.80 USD
GYE 27.75 USD
EZE 29 USD
PTY 20 USD
SDQ 20 USD
MVD 31 USD
ASU 31 USD
LIM 26.05 USD
CCS 43 USD
GUA 30 USD
SAP 30 USD
SAL 19.86 USD

Only checked LatAm countries, as this is not a common practice in the rest of the world
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:52 am



Quoting Acey559 (Reply 11):

They're talking about departure fees you pay directly, not airport taxes in general that are included in your ticket price. At LGW you don't hand over cash at the departure gate.
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:03 pm



Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 13):
What do you mean by "non-reving out of" ?

Well, I guess I mean that it doesn't cost $180 to fly into CDG, only out of CDG, It costs me zero dollars to fly non rev ATL-CDG but $180 to fly CDG-ATL. All airport taxes, none goes to Delta. Don't sew why that is a confusing concept.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:32 pm

I flew CCS-ATL back in May and had to pay two taxes. One is normally included in the ticket price but I had to pay it at the check-in counter as a non-rev. The other is paid at a separate counter near the check-in desks. I paid the first one (BS.F. 110) when I checked in and then went to the counter to pay the second one. Here is the breakdown.

Tasas e Impuestos
Impuesto de Salida (Exit Tax) BS.F. 110 ($51,16)
Tasa Aeroportuaria Internacional (Intl Airport Tax) BS.F. 137,50 ($63,96)

The only other places I have had to pay at the counter prior to traveling was EZE and NAS.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 12):
The cost to non-rev out of CDG to the US are also about $180 US.


That seems a little high. I made a non-rev listing out of CDG and the taxes only came to $84.66.

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:02 pm



Quoting Offloaded (Reply 3):

The airport improvment fee is now added to the ticket price. It was 20 CAD out of YUL..
Taxes in Canada are just crazy.

Fare from YUL to YYZ is 89CAD (on Westjet)

Taxes, Fees & Surcharges:
Guest (details) $59.62 CAD Nav-Ins$18.00 CAD GST-HST$6.58 CAD AIF$20.00 CAD ATSC$4.67 CAD QST$10.37 CAD

Total: 148.62 CAD
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:07 pm



Quoting WouterB (Reply 9):
I can't recall what I paid in SJO (cash)

I paid $25.00 USD back in 2007, but I'm not sure that's an Airport use tax, but rather a government exit tax. Similar taxes were charged in Cuba and Guatemala.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:07 pm



Quoting DAirbus (Reply 18):
That seems a little high. I made a non-rev listing out of CDG and the taxes only came to $84.66.

I flew business class which costs more than coach out of CDG.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:10 pm

These are the taxes that show up when I list non-rev flying back to the States:

AMS: $58.99
CDG: $77.90
FCO: $41.70
LHR: $117.52
LGW: $101.17
MAD: $31.23
TLV: $39.20
ZRH: $55.07
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:16 pm



Quoting Wn676 (Reply 22):
AMS: $58.99
CDG: $77.90
FCO: $41.70
LHR: $117.52
LGW: $101.17
MAD: $31.23
TLV: $39.20
ZRH: $55.07

Yes those are correct, but CDG charges more if you are in F or C class when you fly non-rev.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:35 pm



Quoting HaYnFlyer (Reply 2):
Why don't airlines inlcude the taxes with the fare? My experience a few years back in Thailand required a 500 Baht departure tax paid before going through immigration. This has since changed as it is included with the ticket price but I always wondered why???

I've noticed that it tends to be small Countries who demand cash in exchange for a departure stamp. I assume its because they prefer cash on the nail, as opposed to a cheque in the post from the airline.

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 11):
Judging by how much it costs us to nonrev from there, I'd say London's taxes are up there. When I flew from LGW a couple summers ago, I paid about $130 in taxes, and I think LHR is even more, something like $180 or so, but I'd have to check on that to be exactly sure.

The UK departure tax for a long haul flight is £40 approx $66 at present rates.

Anything else included in the above examples, is the usual case of airlines claiming charges to be taxes when they are not.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:37 pm

Caribbean has a lot espc the former British Islands
These are the ones I know of. Don't know if any went up since last time.
International Departure tax
ANU US$ 20.00 or EC$ 50.00 Easter Caribbean
AXA US$20 or EC$53
BON US$32
CUR US$20
DOM US$30
FPO US$18
GCM $25
GND EC$50
NAS US$15
NEV US$20.50 or EC$54
POS TT$100 (approx US$16)
SKB US$22 or EC$60
SVD EC$40 as rest of airports in the Grenadines
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:15 am

NWI charges GBP5 at the airport, in addition to the taxes included in the ticket price. I believe NQY and BLK do the same...

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:13 pm

Africa has highest airport taxes

WALTER WAFULA

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High taxes and airport charges imposed on airline operators by governments make Africa the most expensive region – worldwide - to travel to for business or leisure. The high costs, aviation experts said, are hampering the growth and development of the airline industry in Africa.

Experts now want the charges scaled back to make air travel more affordable and by extension build a more competitive African aviation industry in the world. However, it’s also on African routes that foreign airlines scooped the highest profits last year.

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:33 pm



Quoting Dash8pilot (Reply 19):
Taxes in Canada are just crazy.

They are ridiculous. As in your WS example, the price is effectively doubled. It si terrible and if they want to encourage air travel in Canada, they should remove these fees. This is why I usually fly out on a US carrier, those carriers tend to ahve lower fees attached. Just did AC and AA o/w to MIA, and AC taxes were $82.00 and AA was $72.00. Yet, when you book on a flight departing the US, the taxes and fees are $4.00. However, that does have to do with the fact that taxes are lower in the United States.

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:15 pm



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 12):
The cost to non-rev out of CDG to the US are also about $180 US.

Not even close, it's $84.66

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 14):
Is it really?!

No, not really. LHR still holds that record.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 17):
but $180 to fly CDG-ATL

$84.66 is the quote from Delta, and is what they will take out of your payroll.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 17):
Don't sew why that is a confusing concept.

Probably because he's never nonrevved before and doesn't know how it works  Yeah sure

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 21):
I flew business class which costs more than coach out of CDG.

Not $100 more  Wink

That would be under the old NW system, $100 flat-rate for all trans-oceanic segments

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 23):
Yes those are correct, but CDG charges more if you are in F or C class when you fly non-rev.

Not $100 more  Wink


DKR is also really high up there, at $101.74
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:00 am



Quoting Acey559 (Reply 14):
but the $45 or so to fly out of DUB

Last October, my wife and I flew DUB-EWR on CO in C and paid 15 Euro for the two of us.

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:25 am



Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 28):
Just did AC and AA o/w to MIA, and AC taxes were $82.00 and AA was $72.00. Yet, when you book on a flight departing the US, the taxes and fees are $4.00.

That is not correct. In many cases, Canadian taxes and airport fees are lower than the taxes/fees assessed by the U.S. government and airports on the same routing.

One simple example based on lowest AA fares just checked for random dates in September::

YYZ-MIA-YYZ AA nonstop both ways:

Total fare including taxes/fees - CAD320.14

Breakdown:

Fare - CAD219
Canadian taxes/fees - GST 10.95, YYZ AIF 25.00, GST on AIF 1.65, Security Charge - 7.94
Total Canadian taxes/fees - CAD45.54

U.S. taxes/fees - APHIS fee - 5.00, Immigration fee 7.00, International arrival tax 16.10, International departure tax 16.10, Sept. 11 security fee 2.50, Passenger Facility Charge (counterpart of AIF in Canada) 4.50
Total U.S. taxes/fees - USD51.20, equivalent CAD55.60

Fare - CAD219.00
Canadian taxes/fees - CAD45.54
U.S. taxs/fees - CAD55.60
Total - CAD320.14

Note U.S. taxes/fees (converted to CAD) on that routing are 22% higher than Canadian taxes/fees.


Comparison with AA fare BUF-MIA (connecting both ways at ORD), all amounts USD:

Fare - 305.12
U.S. Transportation Tax (7.5%) - 22.88
Sept. 11 security fee - 10.00
Passenger facility charges - 18.00
Flight segment tax - 14.40

Total taxes/fees - 65.28
Total fare plus taxes/fees - 370.40

Note total taxes/fees on that routing are also much higher than the nonstop AA fare from YYZ above, and when converted to CAD the total taxes/fees are approxmately CAD70.00. Even if the fare itself (the part AA keeps) was the same as in the YYZ-MIA example above (meaning a lower U.S. Transportation Tax amount since it's a pecentage of the fare), the total U.S. taxes would still be higher than the Canadian taxes on the YYZ-MIA fare.

Not sure what fare you are referring to where the total U.S. taxes/fees are only $4.00.
 
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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:17 pm



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 31):
where the total U.S. taxes/fees are only $4.00

That was an exaggeration, But I will provide my own example.

YYZ-ATL-YYZ on DL and AC

DL:
Price per passenger: $991.78 (CAD)
Taxes/Fees: $102.96 (CAD)
Subtotal per Passenger: $1,094.74 (CAD)
Total for all passengers (1): $1,094.74 (CAD)

AC:
Total charge for 1 adult
Departing Flight (Tango Plus) 555.00
Returning Flight (Tango Plus) 387.00
Options 0.00
Taxes, fees, charges and surcharges 152.74
Grand Total - Canadian dollars $1094.74

Totals are the same due to a lower AC return fare. Yet the taxes are $52 more with AC over DL, and both of these are YYZ-ATL-YYZ.

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RE: Worlds Highest Airport Taxes

Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:00 am



Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 32):
Totals are the same due to a lower AC return fare. Yet the taxes are $52 more with AC over DL, and both of these are YYZ-ATL-YYZ.

There must be some difference in the way DL and AC websites display their fares and taxes/fees, since the total is identical DL and AC. The only percentage based tax is the Canadian GST and all other amounts are flat fees regardless of the fare. The difference in the base fares isn't enough to account for an approximate $50 difference in GST. Maybe DL includes the GST in the fare amounts in their website?

When I look at DL and AC fares in the following site
http://matrix.itasoftware.com/cvg/dispatch

I also see some DL and AC fares that are identical (e.g. CAD1023 total for nonstop travel outbound September 21 and return September 28 (the default dates in the entry screen). When you select a routing at those fares for each carrier, then click "Show booking details" near the upper left hand corner of the resulting display, you get a detailed breakdown of fares/taxes/charges, and they are identical for DL and AC. (In the original entry screen change the sales city from BOS (where ITA Software is located) to YYZ to get the displays in CAD). ITA Software provides fare search software for several major carrier websites.

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