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Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu?

Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:09 am

Question: If one comes down with the obvious flu and is too ill to fly would an airline allow them to postpone the trip or reschedule without a fee or fare collection? Obviously this doesn't apply to the good folks at Southwest Airlines because of their customer friendly fare rules.

Also to throw a twist in the question, what if said passenger was on the return portion of their trip; do you think the air carrier should be lenient in this type situation?
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:18 am

I pretty sure most will let you change (not cancel) your reservation if you have a doctor's note. I got an ear infection a week before I a trip I had LAX-AMS on NW and I didn't want to risk it. They let me postpone it 6 months with a doctor's note.
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:11 am

I don't think you would want to even consider flying if you have the flu, even for your own sake!
you would be much sicker once you hit altitude and most likely suffer severely from air sickness. And to make matters worse, you will end up being sicker for longer because of the stress put on your body from the pressure differentiation. If you are feeling sick... do not fly.
Even a slight cold will make you feel terrible once your in the air.

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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:29 am



Quoting BNinMSY (Thread starter):
If one comes down with the obvious flu and is too ill to fly would an airline allow them to postpone the trip or reschedule without a fee or fare collection

Almost every airline will allow a cancellation based on medical certification from a doctor stating unfit to fly, irrespective of what that condition is.

Quoting Q120 (Reply 2):
I don't think you would want to even consider flying if you have the flu, even for your own sake!
you would be much sicker once you hit altitude and most likely suffer severely from air sickness. And to make matters worse, you will end up being sicker for longer because of the stress put on your body from the pressure differentiation

Nonsense! The only 'danger' from flying with flu is the risk of a ruptured eardrum.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:31 am

Wear a face mask and wash your hands a lot - that way you wont pass it on to others...
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:52 am



Quoting AirNZ (Reply 3):
Nonsense! The only 'danger' from flying with flu is the risk of a ruptured eardrum.

And infecting others around you. Take for example the infamous Influenza A (H1N1), any surface touched by a carrier can harbour the virus for up to 48 hours after contact. Microscopic droplet exhalation places anyone within 1 metre at risk of infection - even without coughing or sneezing.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:56 am



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 5):
And infecting others around you. Take for example the infamous Influenza A (H1N1), any surface touched by a carrier can harbour the virus for up to 48 hours after contact. Microscopic droplet exhalation places anyone within 1 metre at risk of infection - even without coughing or sneezing.

Yes indeed, but that was not in the context to which I was responding to the poster. Whilst what you say is completely relevant, it also applies absolutely 100% to no matter where you are, so is certainly nothing specific to flying while having flu.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:11 am



Quoting AirNZ (Reply 6):
so is certainly nothing specific to flying while having flu.

Agreed, except that studies have shown that the cabin environment on board commercial airliners is far more conducive to the transmission of communicable diseases that other communal environments. Despite that...I still fly!  Wink

Quoting TravelExec (Reply 4):
Wear a face mask and wash your hands a lot - that way you wont pass it on to others...

Only the rather expensive N95 standard, anti-particulate face mask is effective in the prevention of spread of Influenzae viruses. The standard surgical type mask commonly seen used by the public during the H1N1 pandemic was, quite frankly, about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:01 am



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 7):
rather expensive N95 standard, anti-particulate face mask

< $3 is hardly going to break the bank.

Half of Japan wears these masks to work when they have the flu... it is just a case of making people start to be concientious.
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:08 pm

I travelled HKT - BKK - AMS - DUB last year when I had the flu, I will try not to get on an aircraft again if I'm dying with the flu. The worst part was that I was unable to sleep during the BKK-AMS leg and with a 4 hour wait in AMS it was not nice.

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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:20 pm

If the current flu goes really serious (widespread AND highly dangerous - which it hasn't so far) it would probably require governmental supervision to say people should not fly while infected, and also banning change fees.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:37 pm

Amidst the current H1N1 scare, better not risk it.

Some countries have reportedly started quarantining passengers with flu symptoms.
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:40 pm



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 7):
Agreed, except that studies have shown that the cabin environment on board commercial airliners is far more conducive to the transmission of communicable diseases that other communal environments.

People say that, but nobody ever quotes or links the studies...
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:07 pm

Don't fly with the flu. Period.

Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 10):
If the current flu goes really serious (widespread AND highly dangerous - which it hasn't so far) it would probably require governmental supervision to say people should not fly while infected, and also banning change fees.

It is rarely used, but at my carrier the Captain has the final authority to accept or reject any passenger; communicable diseases are one place this comes into play. There are procedures to go through, and reports to write, but in the end after receiving all pertinent information (which will almost certainly involve discussing it with specialists in the company, and sometimes having an airport EMT evaluate the passenger) the Captain can deny boarding, no government supervision required. By the way, denied boarding for health reasons is very rare. Much rarer than denied boarding for being under the influence, for instance. I have never personally seen a denied boarding for a health reason where the passenger was not reaccomodated later, but policies may vary by airline.
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:25 pm



Quoting PGNCS (Reply 13):
Don't fly with the flu. Period.

It is a whole lot more complicated than that. A typical course of flu may take place with the victim never aware they had it, or other very mild symptoms. This often is a majority (sometimes a vast majority) of those stricken. Second people are typically likely to be the most infective a day or two before they come down with symptoms.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:20 am



Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 14):
Quoting PGNCS (Reply 13):
Don't fly with the flu. Period.

It is a whole lot more complicated than that. A typical course of flu may take place with the victim never aware they had it, or other very mild symptoms. This often is a majority (sometimes a vast majority) of those stricken. Second people are typically likely to be the most infective a day or two before they come down with symptoms.

If you want to pick nits, then let me revise my statement to "Don't fly if you know you have the flu. Period." The poster supplied us with the topic, which was "Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu?" Since he specified that the person OBVIOUSLY had the flu, I thought it was a given that the individual had the flu and knew he had the flu. Sorry for any confusion.
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:08 am



Quoting Scipio (Reply 11):
Amidst the current H1N1 scare

Dude, it's the flu. It's no more contagious or dangerous than the "regular" flu.

Quoting PGNCS (Reply 15):
"Don't fly if you know you have the flu. Period."

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I believe all US airlines will waive change fees and such with a doctor's note.
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:24 pm

I would not fly if I had obvious flu symptoms. Apart from my own discomfort and the risk of being quarantined at certain destinations I would not want to risk infecting others.

How would you feel if you sat next to a person on a long flight who is obviously sick and constantly coughing? I would refuse to sit next to such a passenger.

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 16):
Quoting Scipio (Reply 11):
Amidst the current H1N1 scare

Dude, it's the flu. It's no more contagious or dangerous than the "regular" flu.

So far ...

As already pointed out some countries will put you in quarantine if you arrive woth obvious flu symptoms.

I was traveling throughout Asia in April and May of this year when the H1N1 flu scare first hit. At SIN, HKG, and TPE they had thermal scanners set up to scan each arriving passenger. This was still going on in ICN at the beginning of September. If you have flu symptoms such as elevated temperature or coughing you'll get the extra treatment. I saw several people pulled out from my line .... So I would not fly to these destinations if I had the flu.
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:40 am

No...and why would you...couldn't think of anything worse...j
 
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RE: Should One Fly When The Obviously Have The Flu

Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:22 am

Well, don't travel to China or Russia (where they check your temperature on board before you deplane.

I was unfortunate enough to spend a night in a chinese hospital in the infectious diseases ward with suspected swine flu until the all-clear came. All I had was a temperature, no other symptoms.

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