Vimanav
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ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:10 am

Hi

I wanted to have a clarification on ZED fare routing and applicable fare:

I wish to take a ticket Delhi - JFK ZED ticket. However the carrier that plan to take has a stop in DXB where I need to change planes - no stopover, but only a transit halt.

In case of such a routing will the mileage/fare applicable be for sector Delhi - JFK or Delhi - XDubai - JFK? In other words will I have to pay separately for Delhi - Dubai and separately for Dubai - JFK or just the Delhi - JFK through fare (based on direct routing mileage).

Appreciate your comments and views.

Thanks and best regards

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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:47 am

You have to book your ZED tickets separately... also (worse case scenario) - if you get stranded in DXB, you won't have a ZED ticket left to continue your journey as they will keep the coupon of your DEL-JFK ticket in DEL.

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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:50 am

Unless the flight that you are taking has the SAME FLIGHT NUMBER, then you have to buy two separate tickets. I flew LAX-KUL (transit TPE) but only had to buy LAX-KUL because the flight kept the same flight number and was the same plane through, just had to get off while they refueled in TPE.

I wouldn't imagine Emirates to keep the same flight # through, so you'd probably have to buy two separate tickets and calculate the ZED fare based on the DEL-DXB and then DXB-JFK.

Why don't you just get on the AI 77L nonstop? cheaper...
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:59 am



Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 2):
I flew LAX-KUL (transit TPE) but only had to buy LAX-KUL because the flight kept the same flight number and was the same plane through, just had to get off while they refueled in TPE.

It also depends on whether the carrier has 5th freedom rights for the whole journey (f.i. if the airline in your case could sell TPE-KUL, you could still get offloaded if the flight is overbooked out of TPE).
 
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:55 pm

Your airline's staff travel department will be able to give you accurate and up-to-date information about this, as they will no doubt issue the ticket.
 
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:11 pm



Quoting Vimanav (Thread starter):

In case of such a routing will the mileage/fare applicable be for sector Delhi - JFK or Delhi - XDubai - JFK? In other words will I have to pay separately for Delhi - Dubai and separately for Dubai - JFK or just the Delhi - JFK through fare (based on direct routing mileage).

I would think you would want to have to tickets, one for each zone in-case you get offloaded. Always have plan b and c. You should be able to get a refund on unused ZED tickets.

If you do end up using two coupons, talk to your staff travel office about the procedures on getting the airport taxes back for the transit.

Quoting EBBRbased (Reply 1):
if you get stranded in DXB, you won't have a ZED ticket left to continue your journey as they will keep the coupon of your DEL-JFK ticket in DEL.

That would be my concern.

Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 2):
Unless the flight that you are taking has the SAME FLIGHT NUMBER, then you have to buy two separate tickets.

That is not always the case, I know some airlines that operate triangular routes where the flight number changes, and you can have one ticket all the way. I would always have the two tickets anyway, been offloaded more than once.

Quoting Neder99 (Reply 4):
Your airline's staff travel department will be able to give you accurate and up-to-date information about this, as they will no doubt issue the ticket.

Good advice.
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:47 pm

I flew LHR-GRU-EZE with BA last month. It's the same flight number the whole way.
So I only needed to buy one flight coupon: LHR-EZE.

Load permitting of course, as I knew beforehand that the GRU-EZE was wide open (a lucky day for me as BA has 5th freedom on the route and it's often quite packed), so the chances I would have been bumped out was about at zero.

Should I have been bumped out of the flight... I would have been in trouble with no GRU-EZE coupon in back-up.
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:52 pm



Quoting Zeke (Reply 5):
I would always have the two tickets anyway, been offloaded more than once.

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Wise advice. I always do the same.

Another thing to keep in mind is to look up all the airlines that serve the particular routes you are flying, and know the pass agreements your airline has with those airlines. ZED fares are interchangable between airlines for the same airport pairs as long as you airline's agreements are the same with both carriers.
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:58 pm



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 7):
ZED fares are interchangable between airlines for the same airport pairs

Technically not just that, they are interchangable between airlines for routes in the same or lower zone when departing from the same airport (and even that could be changed, but you'd need to work out the taxes), although it can take quite some convincing.

In that way I've flown DOK-VIE on KBP-VIE tickets (although that is supposedly a higher zone) and NRT-CPH-AMS on NRT-CDG-AMS tickets.... with SK/KL instead of AF/KL....
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:04 pm



Quoting JRadier (Reply 8):
Technically not just that, they are interchangable between airlines for routes in the same or lower zone when departing from the same airport (and even that could be changed, but you'd need to work out the taxes), although it can take quite some convincing.

Quite true, though I've never tried a different routing myself. The most I've done is change airlines but use the same routing.
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RE: ZED Fare Question

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:21 pm



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 9):
Quite true, though I've never tried a different routing myself.

It can be quite a tedious process, the DOK-VIE took 3 stations and around 4 days to change it  Wink
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