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Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:24 am

How easy is it to connect from cities in Germany to international flights? I think I read that there is a regional train station at FRA airport, but do other airports in Germany have this?

Do many stations feed through to FRA train station, or is it mostly DUS and CGN areas?

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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:32 am

FRA airport long distance train station, located right inside terminal 1, is at the heart of German's high speed train network. Most north to south and east to west long distance trains stop there, some go through Frankfurt city though and not through the airport. But then you can take a commuter train to the airport. Basically the network splits south of the airport so all trains coming from the south (Basel or Stuttgart or Munich lines) that go in the direction of Cologne will go through the airport, while those going to Hamburg or Berlin will go through the downtown station.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:43 am

Though I've only been to MUC and FRA (both have a train station right at the airport and allow for easy access to the city), I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I'd be shocked if most if not all major airports in Germany did not have a direct train connection to the respective city that they serve.
 
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:18 am

I thought I read that MUC airport only has commuter lines. I'm interested in learning more about regional trains that connect different cities directly to airports. That is, if I were in Stuttgart or Dortmund, could I take a train directly to an airport without having to change to a local train? FRA, I assume yes, but are there others?
 
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:15 am



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
FRA airport long distance train station, located right inside terminal 1, is at the heart of German's high speed train network.

Are there any American Airports with a train station. I know some come close to the airpot then you either take the bus or cab. Will there ever be any built directly in an airport and I dont mean those little monorails at EWR or the little two car trains like at JFK.
 
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:30 am



Quoting Beeweel15 (Reply 4):
Are there any American Airports with a train station. I know some come close to the airpot then you either take the bus or cab. Will there ever be any built directly in an airport and I dont mean those little monorails at EWR or the little two car trains like at JFK.

PVD's wont be inside the terminal but it will be walkable via moving sideways

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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:45 am

current major airports with trainstations are:
FRA - a station below T1 for commuter trains and in front of T1 for long distance trains with an
extensive network to all directions, so you can easily connect withoutr changing from Munich, Duesseldorf , Berlin or even Basel......
DUS - commuter train station below the terminal and also long distance train station connect via light railway with trains to north and south
BER - SFX commuter train station, but not sure if long distance trains currently call the station
MUC - only commuter trains
LEJ - commuter trains, not sure about long distance
CGN - commuter trains and a ICE long distance to the north
Not sure about STR
NUE & HAM don't theyplan or buil a commuter train station or at least subway ?
 
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:31 am



Quoting Twa@fra (Reply 6):
current major airports with trainstations are:
FRA - a station below T1 for commuter trains and in front of T1 for long distance trains with an
extensive network to all directions, so you can easily connect withoutr changing from Munich, Duesseldorf , Berlin or even Basel......

Can anyone tell me the purpose of the new train station (cum parking lot and shopping center I think) which is being built outside the airport in FRA? Is it going to replace the Terminal 1 station or just add capacity?
Will it be a high speed train station, regional, or mixed?

It looks it's going to be a pretty impressive structure.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:54 am



Quoting Twa@fra (Reply 6):
NUE & HAM don't theyplan or buil a commuter train station or at least subway ?

I used the commuter train in NUE back in 2002- so yes!
Hamburg- for sure, opened in 2008.

LowCost airport LÜBECK/Hamburg LBC by Ryanair/WIZZ is connected by Railway-station to the Lübeck-city to Hamburg railway-system.
 
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:21 pm

HAJ: Railway station for commuter trains (S-Bahn) is located in the basement of terminal C. Service was inaugurated in time for the EXPO 2000 at Hannover's fair grounds.
Nowadays 2 trains per hour to Central Station with continuation to Hameln (Hamelin - the city of the pied piper) and beyond.
Telling from the masses of people that emerge from the station every 30 minutes it looks like it is well used, but not good for my travel.

FDH has a railway station next to its terminal.

Quoting Francoflier (Reply 7):
Can anyone tell me the purpose of the new train station (cum parking lot and shopping center I think) which is being built outside the airport in FRA? Is it going to replace the Terminal 1 station or just add capacity?
Will it be a high speed train station, regional, or mixed?

"AirRail Center". It is being built atop the 1999-railway station (highspeed trains) and will feature a hotel, offices and shops. There will be no change to the station itself.

However, the future Terminal 3 at FRA was said to get its own station (regional trains).

Quoting Twa@fra (Reply 6):
LEJ - commuter trains, not sure about long distance

Also long distance trains (IC-trains Dresden to Hannover and beyond) call here.

BRE: Light railway (tram) line runs from Central Station to the airport.

DRS: Commuter trains (S-Bahn)

Quoting Twa@fra (Reply 6):
Not sure about STR

STR: Commuter trains (S-Bahn) from Central Station.
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This leaves only TXL as the only major airport (5+ million pax) that is NOT connected via a sort of railway (commuter or long distance trains or a tram).

In Germany, the airport farthest away from a usable railway line is HHN, although there was talk to rebuild a disused line.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:32 pm

HT - thanks for great replies.
Just to recap, can you advise which airports other than FRA have ICE long-haul trains leaving directly from the airport? Or is it only FRA?
 
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:50 pm

Actually there is a ICE train station in shell construction beneath MUC's Terminal 1, which was never opened and is located right besides the commuter train station.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:26 pm



Quoting AF022 (Reply 10):
Just to recap, can you advise which airports other than FRA have ICE long-haul trains leaving directly from the airport? Or is it only FRA?

FRA, CGN
At DUS there is a short ride on the Skytrain involved to get to the long-haul station.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:40 pm



Quoting HT (Reply 9):
STR: Commuter trains (S-Bahn) from Central Station.

The projected high-speed line Stuttgart-Ulm-Munich will IIRC also have an ICE station for STR airport, serving the lines towards Munich and Zurich.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:27 pm



Quoting AF022 (Reply 10):

Besides Frankfurt only Cologne is conected to the ICE network (but at CGN the number of ICE´s is limited - has been "downgraded" not too long after the station was inaugurated, unfortunately - so most trains are regional ones only)

Here´s my list of german airports with direct rail access:

Hamburg (HAM) S-Bahn
Lübeck (LBC) regional trains
Bremen (BRE) tramway (at least it runs on rails "g")
Hannover (HAJ) S-Bahn ?
Düsseldorf (DUS) has 2 separate rail stations (one for S-Bahn only and the other is served by S-Bahn/RE/RB/IC/ICE)
Cologne (CGN) regional trains + ICE
Frankfurt (FRA) has 2 separate stations (one for local trains and one for ICE)
Mannheim (MHG) tramway
Stuttgart (STR) S-Bahn
München (MUC) S-Bahn
Berlin-Schönefeld (SXF) S-Bahn/RE/IC/EC
Leipzig (LEJ) regional trains
Dresden (DRS) local train

Remark: Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN) will get it´s own rail station with the existing (but abandonned) railway line "reactivated" within the next 3-4 yrs.
Regional trains will then serve HHN.
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RE: Train To Plane In Germany

Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:52 pm



Quoting MHG (Reply 14):
Here´s my list of german airports with direct rail access:

I don't know what the "my" means, but from earlier replies NUE and FDH are missing ...
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