DariusBieber
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Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movement

Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:27 pm

I believe there was a recent topic about the largest city without a designated Hub, which I think is SAT in the United States, but I wanted to know what smaller cities there are that have a lot of movement? Such as EWR, whereas Newark only has a population of 275,000. (But, of course, it serves a VERY busy metropolitan area), and also FRA only has a population of 650,000 but it is the Third Busiest airport in Europe.

So, what smaller cities are out there that have a large amount of Aircraft Movement?
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:38 pm

I'm just after realising there's no city in Ireland without an airline hub:

Dublin [DUB] (Aer Arann, Aer Lingus, CityJet, Ryanair)
Cork [ORK] (Aer Arann, Aer Lingus, Ryanair)
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:47 pm

SLC with a population of over 181,000
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:58 pm

What about BDL or RSW?
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:05 pm

Such a conversation is pointless if we are only talking about the city limits and not the metro area. Pittsburgh is a very small city geographically, but surrounded by hundreds of municipalities. Jacksonville is one big municipality.

In that regards St. Louis is bigger than San Antonio as far as airports without a hub.

For the smallest "city" with a lot of movements, my vote goes to Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Memphis.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:08 pm

ATL as a city is only 537,000 people, but is the busiest airport in the world...

That has to be an obvious one.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:18 pm



Quoting SW733 (Reply 5):
ATL as a city is only 537,000 people,

Maybe Atlanta propper is only that big but the area it serves is HUGE, pulling from parts of South Carolina, most of Georgia, and Alabama.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:20 pm

How about HHN? About 200 people live in Hahn and... well... not that busy of an airport, but at least 1-3 flights per hour!
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:06 pm

Guam is about 160,000 With an AFB and a Busy International Airport hosting all aircraft types but the A380..B727F,737,747,757,767,777 and A300,320,330,340,S360,ATR 72, and UAM (Andersen AFB) B1,2,52,KC10,135..5C5,17,130,747F

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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:10 pm

ANC...AS and the amount of cargo traffic transiting....maybe...
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:11 pm

What about San Diego, they have a city population just over 1,000,000 and are not a proper hub for any airline and BOS which really has no destined Hub airline so to speak
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:16 pm

Slighty off-topic but Geneva always strikes me as a big airport serving a small city. Obviously it draws on western Suisse and much of eastern France.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:20 pm



Quoting Packcheer (Reply 6):
Quoting SW733 (Reply 5):
ATL as a city is only 537,000 people,

Maybe Atlanta propper is only that big but the area it serves is HUGE, pulling from parts of South Carolina, most of Georgia, and Alabama.

And what about some parts of Tennessee? Does it pull from there as well? How far is Chattanooga from ATL?
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:31 pm

Along the same line as ATL, the busiest airport in Canada - YYZ - is technically located in Mississauga. The population of Mississauga is about 660,000.

Obviously though YYZ (like ATL) serves a much larger area than just the city it's technically located in. The greater Toronto area comfortably has 4 or 5 million (the city of Toronto proper is about 2.5 million).

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:49 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 12):
And what about some parts of Tennessee? Does it pull from there as well? How far is Chattanooga from ATL?

Well I haven't looked into it, but Chattanooga is only 2 hours from Nashville, and a bit over 3 from the ATL airport. If I was flying Delta, I might drive it, if I was flying any other airline and I lived in Chatanooga I would drive to Nashville I guess.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:47 am

Aircraft movements? Probably Memphis with the huge number of moments during the night.

Technically is MSP in Minneapolis, or is it in Richfield MN? If so populations are 368,000 and 34,500 respectively.

Is Louisville KY in the running?
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:23 am

I wonder if we can add Singapore (it is a city-state)
Dubai should be on the top 20, according to some sources it is the 17th busiest airport in the world and 10th in Cargo.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:11 am

It's PLN (Pellston, MI, if that scolling over thingy doesn't work).
Population of 771. Yet, during the summer, NW puts 200 seats a day up there. Per capita, that has to be the winner.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:19 am



Quoting PITrules (Reply 4):
Such a conversation is pointless if we are only talking about the city limits and not the metro area.

Exactly. While people are mentioning actual city populations, the MSA is the statistic that actually needs to be looked at.

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:13 am

what about GVA (population 300'000) and about 11 Mio pax. No hub.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:57 am



Quoting Sr176 (Reply 19):
No hub

eh? Easyjet?
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:49 am

What about Frankfurt? Isn't it up there when you consider that it's not such a big city, but has one of the most important airports in the world?

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:53 am

Interesting topic...
Was just mentioning to someone how Sharm el Sheikh has a population of maybe 50,000 (35k according to wiki) but handled 7.8mil pax last year. Oh, and it's not anyone's hub-just a really big spoke for some of the airlines operating there. It's all tourism-driven, obviously.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:55 am

Has to be FRA - because it is almost all transfer traffic and I won't be surprised if LH is the largest employer in the Frankfurt area.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:18 pm

No clue about numbers but ABZ? It is the airport for the North of Scotland and will have a large number of movements due to all the helicopter activity. It is the busiest commercial heliport in the world.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:20 pm

Halifax, Nova Scotia .....population almost 400,000 ( including all of the suburbs etc. ) but handled almost 3.6 million passengers last year
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:36 pm

I'll trump the lot of you!

Stansted Airport 22.3M passengers (2008)

Stansted Mountfitchet population ~5,532 (2001)

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:54 pm

MLE... pop 81.647, 5.798 km² of area and an international airport with 13477 international flights + 68572 domestic flights in 2008.

You can also say that mxp is more near at Varese than Milan. Varese has a population of 81,922. Mxp has a traffic of 23.8 million of passengers and is now expanding with a new runway...
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:01 pm



Quoting BeakerLTN (Reply 26):
I'll trump the lot of you!

Stansted Airport 22.3M passengers (2008)

Beat me by ten minutes to this. Even if someone is very pedantic and takes the population of nearby Bishop's Stortford it's still only 35000. And it's so far outside the M25 (the motorway which surrounds the Greater London area) that definitely shouldn't be considered a London airport for the purposes of this topic.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:13 pm

Quoting HotelDJRomeo (Reply 13):
Along the same line as ATL, the busiest airport in Canada - YYZ - is technically located in Mississauga. The population of Mississauga is about 660,000.

Obviously though YYZ (like ATL) serves a much larger area than just the city it's technically located in. The greater Toronto area comfortably has 4 or 5 million (the city of Toronto proper is about 2.5 million).

Okay, if that's the game, Washington-Dulles isn't even in a city. It straddles two Virginia county lines -- Fairfax and Loudoun -- and the borders of two unincorporated communities Chantilly and Dulles.
(By the way, the recently established Village of Dulles is named after the airport rather than vice versa.)

So, basically it's in the middle of no place 26 miles WNW of Washington DC. Yet it serves 23.9 million passengers.

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:46 pm



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 29):
Yet it serves 23.9 passengers.

What happened the rest of the 24th passenger?
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:49 pm

Oslo, the capital of Norway, has approx. 590000 inhabitants. OSL had 19 344 459 travellers in 2008 (sources for the numbers: no.wikipedia.org)

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:04 pm



Quoting Glom (Reply 30):
Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 29):
Yet it serves 23.9 passengers.

What happened the rest of the 24th passenger?

Point taken.  laughing 

I have edited the post to match what the IAD web site reports.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:14 pm

I have also found out that FAI is the smallest city in the US (35,000) that has Non-Stop service to Europe. In the summer, DE flies weekly service to FRA.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:20 pm

If we want to get technical, RDU is located in the town of Morrisville, NC (population: 13,000) but the airport had 9.6 Million passengers last year.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:21 pm

This topic is out of control starting with the premise that the city limits in some way will determine the airport traffic. How is Frankfurt a small city?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt

Frankfurt am Main, commonly known simply as Frankfurt, is the largest city in the German state of Hesse and the fifth-largest city in Germany, with a 2008 population of 670,000. The urban area had an estimated population of 2.26 million in 2001. The city is at the centre of the larger Frankfurt/Rhine-Main Metropolitan Region which has a population of 5.3 million and is Germany's second largest metropolitan area.

A catchment area of 5.3 million is not small.

If the intent is to stick to the well defined areas then choose one of the many airport outside of formal city limits. It just won't provide any insight into an airport punching above its weight.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:53 pm

I think XNA with over 1 million passengers a year going through the airport should be mentioned.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:08 pm



Quoting Ferroviarius (Reply 31):
Oslo, the capital of Norway, has approx. 590000 inhabitants. OSL had 19 344 459 travellers in 2008

OSL has to be up there  Smile But the winner has to be:

Quoting BeakerLTN (Reply 26):
Stansted Airport 22.3M passengers (2008)

Stansted Mountfitchet population ~5,532 (2001)

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:14 pm



Quoting PITrules (Reply 4):
For the smallest "city" with a lot of movements, my vote goes to Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Memphis.

Actually, The City of Memphis is one of the 20 largest cities in the United States with a population of 669,651. Where it falls down is in its metropolitan area rank, which I believe is not even in the top 50 with around 1.3 million people. Memphis likes to annex its suburbs.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:22 pm

Birmingham, Alabama has just under 230,000 residents (the Birmingham-Hoover metropolitan area has 1,198,232 residents) yet BHM consistently moves over 3 million passengers a year.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:41 pm

ATL as a city is only 537,000 people, but is the busiest airport in the world...

The City of Atlanta may only be 537,000 people, but this is very misleading as Atlanta proper as defined by the Chamber of Commerce is a 28 county area including the city that has a population of about 4,917,717 people. For anyone that lives in Atlanta, you know that Atlanta is a suburb rich city. No one lives in Atlanta proper really.
 
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:41 pm



Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 1):
I'm just after realising there's no city in Ireland without an airline hub:

Dublin [DUB] (Aer Arann, Aer Lingus, CityJet, Ryanair)
Cork [ORK] (Aer Arann, Aer Lingus, Ryanair)
Limerick [SNN] (Aer Lingus, Ryanair)
Galway [GWY] (Aer Arann)
Waterford [WAT] (Aer Arann)

What about Sligo (SXL) and Donegal (CFN)? I have flown in to both of those and they certainly aren't hubs.
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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:54 pm

The entire metropolitan population of Las Vegas, NV is less than 2 million and yet it is the 15th busiest airport in the world. This is according to Wikipedia for 2008. It was actually number 10 in 2005.

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RE: Smallest Cities With The Highest Traffic Movem

Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:50 pm



Quoting Sr176 (Reply 19):
what about GVA (population 300'000) and about 11 Mio pax. No hub.

GVA population (the entire canton which for practical purposes is like one city as it's almost all urban) is about 450,000. The overall catchment area including neighbouring parts of Switzerland and France is probably about 750,000.

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