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HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:17 am

Hello,

I have to prepare a trip to the Pacific, but it seems Hawaiian is the only airline to fly beetween the two towns. I would like to know if Hawaiian has any partnership with other airlines please?

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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:10 pm

I do not believe HA481/482, the HNL-PPT-HNL routing (operating right now on Fridays by a B763), has a code-share partner, if that's what you are asking.
 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:01 pm

I'm not sure what do you mean by partnership, but the HNL-PPT flight is not code-shared by anyone.

If you mean mileage partners, Hawaiian Air has several, however looking at their website, the PPT flight will only earn miles on US Airways, Virgin Flying Club and Virgin Velocity.
http://www.hawaiianair.com/HawaiianM...s/Pages/AirlinePartnerPrgHome.aspx

Overall its a pretty tiny market between Hawaii and Tahiti. If you are looking for added flight options to PPT then you need to back track to LAX where Air Tahiti Nui has daily flights and Air France several times per week.
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:31 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):

Overall its a pretty tiny market between Hawaii and Tahiti.

To be honest, I am surprised there is any. I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?
 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:56 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
To be honest, I am surprised there is any. I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?

Not quite. There are a few people in Hawaii who take vacations in French Polynesia (my uncle, for one). Also, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) do missionary work throughout Polynesia (which includes Hawaii). There is a branch of Brigham Young University in Hawaii with a large contingent of students from throughout Polynesia. There are also researchers and academics who travel between Hawaii and the rest of Polynesia. Finally, there is some visiting friends and relative travel between Hawaii and elsewhere in Polynesia. Not a huge market for travel between Honolulu and Papeete of course, but the HNL–PPT market is not entirely dependent on mainland connections.
 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:58 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?

Yes HA tries hard to sell connections from places like SEA/SFO etc.
Over the years they have offered free Hawaii stopovers, and even at times a pair of free interisland tickets for those that buy mainland-Tahiti on them.
Looking at their historical LF (60-70%) the single flight probably hangs on by a thread.
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:07 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?

Yes HA tries hard to sell connections from places like SEA/SFO etc.

From SEA, routing via HNL to PPT isn't too devious, about 300nm further than SEA-LAX-PPT, but from SFO it's about 600nm further, and from LAX, a connection via HNL is over 1000nm further than nonstop.
 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:18 pm

Back in the 1980s both Continental and UTA operated non-stop flights between Honolulu and Papeete. In fact, I was on the inaugural flight on Continental from PPT to HNL in the summer of 1987. The flight was operated with a DC-10 and there were 36 passengers on that first flight. I don't believe Continental operated that flight for very long. My understanding is that Hawaiian actually was doing research on the feasibility of the HNL–PPT market at that time. I believe it was not long after when HA started flying the route and CO pulled out. Not sure when UTA stopped flying the route (I think it was quite some time before the merger with Air France).
 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:24 pm

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 7):
I was on the inaugural flight on Continental from PPT to HNL in the summer of 1987. The flight was operated with a DC-10 and there were 36 passengers on that first flight. I don't believe Continental operated that flight for very long.

PPT is on CO's June 1989 Pacific route map (below) but only from LAX, not from HNL, so HNL-PPT must have been dropped sometime between 1987 and 1989. PPT is gone completely from the June 1991 route map.

 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:36 pm

I thought Air New Zealand made a stop in HNL on it's way to PPT on certain routes ?
 
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RE: HNL-PPT, Only Hawaiian?

Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:40 am

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 9):
I thought Air New Zealand made a stop in HNL on it's way to PPT on certain routes ?

Not any more.
Air NZ withdrew from PPT on the Pacific route. Today they offer twice weekly AKL-PPT service, while HNL gets a stand alone AKL-HNL flight also twice weekly.
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