lmml 14/32
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Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Fri May 14, 2010 2:21 pm

I have searched in several airlines' websites for information about the subject. But still have the following question:

1. Do airlines provide poop bags as they do sick bags?
2. How is the poop disposed of and by whom - pap or crew?
3. Do airlines supply pet food (I am assuming not)?
4. Are there any probited pets even if properly caged (I am assuming snakes and reptiles etc)?
5. Is the owner liable for damaged the pet may cause to the aircraft seats or carpeting?
6. Are pax required to sedate the pets with tranquillizing pills or injection before and during (long) flights?
7. Do airlines require special certification to be able to carry pets in cabin or is this just a matter of policy?
8. Any other restrictions, regulations etc.

Thanks for your replies.
 
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Fri May 14, 2010 2:31 pm

1. Airlines do not provide poop bags.
2. It is the pet owner's responsibility to look after their pet's sanitary needs.
3. No, airlines do not supply pet food.
4. Rules vary from airline to airline, but in general only dogs and cats are permitted. Most airlines prohibit rodents, reptiles, birds.
5. By regulation, pets are not permitted outside their container. I don't know to what degree airlines have stated liability rules for pet owners.
6. Pax are not required to sedate pets, and there is disagreement among vets as to whether or not this is a good idea.
7. When traveling internationally, there are often specific health certificates required by the destination country. Airlines are required to check that pet owners have these before accepting the animal for carriage. But to my knowlege, there is no certification required in order to accept the pet by the airline.
8. Not all airlines will accept PETC. Some airlines only allow AVIH. For PETC, the most common requirements are size/weight of pet and approved container.
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Fri May 14, 2010 6:50 pm

My sister flew ATL-LAX this past Wednesday. Two handlers had baby tigers that they brought on board...traveling to LA to appear on Jay Leno. I though that was different!
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Fri May 14, 2010 7:12 pm

Quoting PA110 (Reply 1):
6. Pax are not required to sedate pets, and there is disagreement among vets as to whether or not this is a good idea.

I vote no. I've flown dogs - not in the cabin - across the Atlantic and the Pacific and have avoided sedating the dogs.

The vets I've spoken to think that sedation interferes with the dogs natural ability to "close down."

Quoting PA110 (Reply 1):
7. When traveling internationally, there are often specific health certificates required by the destination country. Airlines are required to check that pet owners have these before accepting the animal for carriage. But to my knowlege, there is no certification required in order to accept the pet by the airline.

When taking animals into Australia and New Zealand, it is a complicated process. First blood draw has to be six months before the departure date.

And that's just the start of it.

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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Sat May 15, 2010 1:06 am

Quoting LMML 14/32 (Thread starter):
2. How is the poop disposed of and by whom - pap or crew?
Quoting PA110 (Reply 1):
2. It is the pet owner's responsibility to look after their pet's sanitary needs.

Again, the owner is supposed to take care of their own pet's bathroom needs whether it's the last amount of business done before and after a flight. Other than being nervous, I have not experienced my dog needing to go during flight. Now some airports may have a little doggy area inside the terminal. SEA has a little pet relief area that sorta reminds your of a kennel and they offer pee pads as a means of providing relief to dogs.

Quoting LMML 14/32 (Thread starter):
5. Is the owner liable for damaged the pet may cause to the aircraft seats or carpeting?
Quoting PA110 (Reply 1):
5. By regulation, pets are not permitted outside their container. I don't know to what degree airlines have stated liability rules for pet owners.

Just to add, this includes inside the terminal as well, unless otherwise state such as the doggy relief room at SEA. Most will frown if the dog is walking in the terminal even with their leash on. At least at IAH and SEA, the pet carriers can be open to give water, food, or treats while waiting for a flight, but the pet must remain in its carrier.
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Sat May 15, 2010 2:13 am

On an AA MD-80 flight from TPA to LGA a few years ago that I was on, Busch Gardens in TPA was flying to New York some large exotic birds to appear on Good Morning America the next day. The cages were strapped into 2 passanger seats with one of the handlers on the aisle seat on the 3 seat side.

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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Sat May 15, 2010 3:04 am

My favorite passenger to date was Max, a chimpanzee. Delta Express
He had his own seat. I actually got his 8X10 picture with
his "signature". Very well behaved.
 
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Sat May 15, 2010 3:12 am

We had this pap that flew with his dog as a PETC. However at the end of his trip the dog had gained weight and was now too heavy for PETC, and had to fly as AVI!
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Sat May 15, 2010 6:59 am

One reason it is not recommended to sedate you dog is that this can actually interfere with a dogs temperature regulation, which is needed during the trip.

It can also interfere with the breathing of dogs with short snouts such as Pekenese, Shih Tzu, etc. These dogs have a hard time breathing at sea level let alone in an aircraft.

It also helps with the potty problem if you don't feed or water your pet 8 hours before flight, but make sure there is a small water bowl in the kennel. This won't hurt your dog as you are not doing it on a regular basis.

If you are going to travel with your dog, it may help to drive next to an airport a few times with it so your dog gets used to the sounds of an airport. This can help keep your dog calm.
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Sat May 15, 2010 4:36 pm

Thank you for your replies.
 
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Mon May 17, 2010 3:40 am

I remember being younger when we bought a dog from New York to bring back to Finland.
My mom got us tickets on AY instead of using our flight benefits on DL because we were able to bring the pet onboard with us. It sat out of it's kennel on the seat next to us the whole flight. The FAs kept coming by to play with puppers..
 
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RE: Rules For Carriage Of Pets In Cabin

Mon May 17, 2010 4:27 pm

I have flown with my pet dogs in the cabin (and in the hold) on long flights : AMM-CDG, CDG-NIM several times, NIM-CDG-EWR and EWR-RSW. Most dogs are good for several hours especially since they are not walked, and mine have always been fine. My experience is that giving them water before boarding will be fine as the air in flight is so dry. I don't feed them during the flight, either, and the only time they get a bit agitated is during meal service with all those fine smells.

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