silverfox
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Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 1:32 pm

Apart fro flightaware24 are there any similar trackers that show live locations of aircraft
(live just west of Heathrow so overflight info would be useful
Latest updates on the list are 18 months old
Thanks
 
Burkhard
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 1:37 pm

Maybe Air Navs Radar Box is what you need?

European air control is very close on any data.
 
hailstone
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 1:41 pm

http://www.heathrowcam.net/liveradar.php

is quite nice in as far as LHR is concerned
 
oly720man
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 1:51 pm

www.radarvirtuel.com

also shows aircraft around London as well as many other European locations. It doesn't seem to be working quite properly at the moment since it's not showing the route history, but lots of planes are there.
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slinky09
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 1:53 pm

If you have an iPhone, then the Plane Finder app. is great.
 
skord
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 1:59 pm

Try flightradar24.com I much prefer that to flighttracker24.
 
flyingbird
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 2:56 pm

www.flightradar24.com is a very good flighttracker with fast increasing coverage in Europe and around the world.

On http://data.flight24.com you can find lots of data from Flightradar24.com like airport facts, flights, flights history, routes, airplane regs and so on.

Flightradar24.com will be released as iPhone/iPad app very soon.

[Edited 2010-05-25 08:07:03]
 
jpiddink
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Tue May 25, 2010 2:57 pm

Or Casper, I think the graphics are far superior to other sites that I know. You can choose between a free website with a 15 min delay, or you may subscribe for real-time info.

http://casper.frontier.nl/egkk/

Other airports available on their main site.
 
Dirkou
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Wed May 26, 2010 4:33 pm

All these sites mentioned use data provided by a Virtual Radar receiver called AirNav RadarBox.
It receives data transmitted from aircraft and works in networked mode which means data is shared between users.
Check for details at http://www.airnavsystems.com/radarbox
 
flyingbird
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Wed May 26, 2010 5:37 pm

Quoting Dirkou (Reply 8):
All these sites mentioned use data provided by a Virtual Radar receiver called AirNav RadarBox.

Not true, Flightradar24.com got it's own network of receivers.

"Flightradar24.com shows live airplane traffic from different parts around the world. The technique to receive flight information from aircraft is called ADS-B. That means the Flightradar24.com can only show information about aircraft equipped with ADS-B transponders. Today about 60% of the passenger aircraft and only a small amount of military and private aircraft have an ADS-B transponder. Flightradar24.com has a network of about 100 ADS-B receivers around the world that receives the information from aircraft with ADS-B and sends this information to a server, and then displays this information on a map on Flightradar24.com. Only aircraft within the coverage area of the 100 receivers are visible."

http://www.flightradar24.com/about.php
 
Dirkou
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Thu May 27, 2010 1:25 am

"Not true, Flightradar24.com got it's own network of receivers. "

Which receivers? Most of them AirNav RadarBox Mode-s ADS-B receivers.
Fightradar24.com is just a web based tracker while AirNav Systems has a wide range of software being used by airlines, airports and aviation enthusiasts. It has even being used is space experiments and the Boeing 787 project.

Check the link below:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3332.0
 
flyingbird
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Thu May 27, 2010 5:00 am

Quoting Dirkou (Reply 10):
Which receivers? Most of them AirNav RadarBox Mode-s ADS-B receivers.
Fightradar24.com is just a web based tracker while AirNav Systems has a wide range of software being used by airlines, airports and aviation enthusiasts. It has even being used is space experiments and the Boeing 787 project.

Check the link below:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/i...332.0

90% of Flightradar24 receivers are SBS-1 not AirNav. SBS-1 have higher sensitivity (better coverage) than AirNav.

Many of Flightradar24 radar installations are quite professional with amplifiers placed on top of mountains, on 20-40 meters high mast, on roof of airports, on high buildings. Most of AirNav users have a small antenna in the window. That makes a lots difference in coverage.

[Edited 2010-05-26 22:09:39]
 
Dirkou
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Thu May 27, 2010 7:52 pm

>90% of Flightradar24 receivers are SBS-1 not AirNav. SBS-1 have higher sensitivity (better coverage) than AirNav.

I don't think you know what you are writing. RadarBox is by far the best seller in this kind of equipments nowadays.
It is being used by dozens of professional customers including airlines. Flightradar24 is a simple web based applciation. AirNav RadarBox is powered by a central server processing millions of ADS-B messages daily and with over 500 sharers on a typical day. You cannot compare what RadarBox offers (Windows software, server software, providing data to professional customers) with a simple free web site like flightradar24.com (there are many others similar to it).
 
flyingbird
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Thu May 27, 2010 8:45 pm

Quoting Dirkou (Reply 12):
I don't think you know what you are writing. RadarBox is by far the best seller in this kind of equipments nowadays.
It is being used by dozens of professional customers including airlines. Flightradar24 is a simple web based applciation. AirNav RadarBox is powered by a central server processing millions of ADS-B messages daily and with over 500 sharers on a typical day. You cannot compare what RadarBox offers (Windows software, server software, providing data to professional customers) with a simple free web site like flightradar24.com (there are many others similar to it).

I know exactly what I'm writing.

I have never talked about which is best selling, it's completely uninteresting for me. I'm talking about facts.
FACT 1. I have both AirNav Radarbox and SBS-1 and the SBS-1 have about 20% better covarage.
FACT 2. AirNav network has not 500 but about 350 active sharers on a typical day
FACT 3. Flightradar24 has more than 100 receivers with better location, better coverage and connected 24/7.
FACT 4. Flightradar24 is handling millions of ADS-B messages every hour.
FACT 5. Maybe Flightradar24 is simple in your eyes, but at least it's stable. AirNav network was down again for hours yesterday.
FACT 6. Flightradar24.com has more than 100.000 visiors per day.
FACT 7. Flightradar24.com is free for everyone. AirNav cost money to buy Plus an annual fee.
 
Dirkou
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RE: Flight Tracker For Europe?

Thu May 27, 2010 10:29 pm

Don't take me wrong. Flightradar24.com is a great site.

>FACT 1. I have both AirNav Radarbox and SBS-1 and the SBS-1 have about 20% better covarage.

This is totally false. RadarBox is being chosen for space experiments and not SBS-1 because it is more accurate and reliable. It's a new system with permanent software updates and maintained by professional pilots and avionics engineers. Check: http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2650.0

>FACT 2. AirNav network has not 500 but about 350 active sharers on a typical day

It depends. There are days with 600 users sharing. RadarBox network is by far the biggest ADS-B professionally maintained sharing network nowadays. Check for real-time network stats at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/radarbox/network.php

>FACT 3. Flightradar24 has more than 100 receivers with better location, better coverage and connected 24/7.

How can you say that? RadarBox has been sold to airlines all over the world and they pay for ultra modern/efficient antennas. All this data is then shared amongst all the users.
Read this link: http://www.airnavsystems.com/TotalADSB/index.html

>FACT 4. Flightradar24 is handling millions of ADS-B messages every hour.

Correct. Like any other ADS-B sharing site.

>FACT 5. Maybe Flightradar24 is simple in your eyes, but at least it's stable. AirNav network was down again for hours yesterday.

False. AirNav RadarBox network is well known for being extremelly stable.
Do you think major airlines would rely on a service that isn't stable?
As an example check their network stats for 2009:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=4020.0

>FACT 6. Flightradar24.com has more than 100.000 visiors per day.

Flightradar24.com is a great site, everyone knows it!
Anyway we cannot compare a web site with a range of ultra reliable and professionaly maintained ADS-B soltuions like AirNav Systems has. It's like comparing a Cessna 152 with an airline operating a fleet of 777.

>FACT 7. Flightradar24.com is free for everyone. AirNav cost money to buy Plus an annual fee.

Like everything in life: if you want quality you have to pay.

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