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When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:21 pm

Organising a short trip to Tunisia, I am offered return fares to Tunisia by Air France and BA for 620 and 731 euro respectively. Searching further, I managed to get a one-way flight from Monastir to Dublin, via East Midlands, for 120 euro. Fine, so now I need to get out there. But checking again for one-way fares via the aforementioned airlines for fares to Tunis, Air France are charging 783 euro (a full 163 euro more than the return trip), and BA are looking for 1,151 euro, a whopping 420 euro more!

I really thought this crazy pricing structure was as much history as the 1970s, but it seems I'm wrong. Apart from business and first class passengers, do airlines really expect people to pay these nonsensical fares in 2010? Maybe they do, but I won't be one of them . . .

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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:26 am

I've bought a couple tickets on Ryanair for around 20 Euro each, so it can be a great way to get from point A to point B if you don't care about frills.
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:45 am

Quoting jhooper (Reply 1):
I've bought a couple tickets on Ryanair for around 20 Euro each, so it can be a great way to get from point A to point B if you don't care about frills.

Absolutely, and completely correct. Indeed, if one is being honest, how many 'frills' are required on relatively short flights??? Equally, I've never found the level of service on several hundred Ryanair flights to be of any real difference to that of any other short haul flight....and certainly better than some alleged 'noteworthy' airlines!!
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:57 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
I really thought this crazy pricing structure was as much history as the 1970s, but it seems I'm wrong. Apart from business and first class passengers, do airlines really expect people to pay these nonsensical fares in 2010? Maybe they do, but I won't be one of them . . .

Sadly, the crazy price structures are still there in certain markets...., and it seems the pax in certain markets are still very used to paying them!

We in Ireland and the UK are spoiled rotten with low fares, so much so that we consider what would have been a "normal fare" ten years ago, to be "outlandish" now.

As much as i dislike flying with Ryanair, and dislike saint michael, I also have to be thankful to the low fares model which has made things much easier for all of us when it comes to travel options.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:05 pm

A buddy and I just flew Ryanair from Frankfurt Hahn to Zadar, Croatia for US $135 roundtrip ... Add in the 12 euro each way on the bus from FRA and the total cost was US $165 ... vs. US $500 on Lufthansa. The flights were quick, easy, and on time ... I'm glad I had the option ...
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:10 pm

On all FR flight I made I safed at leat 50 times of what I could have paid for frills on board. And indeed, go and order the champaign, give one or two Euro tip and you will get an excellent service...
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:14 pm

Don't forget to let us know how you get on finding a one-way fare out to MIR too.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:25 pm

Quoting jhooper (Reply 1):
so it can be a great way to get from point A to point B if you don't care about frills.

Absolutely! Although I prefer U2 personally, as they fly to the main airports rather than secondary ones. I will pay more to use the full service airline, if the flight is a longer sector and they aren't charging a ridiculous amount more. Generally, though, it's U2 all the way!
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:28 pm

Would like to test U2, but nowhere near to me...
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:13 pm

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 7):
as they fly to the main airports rather than secondary ones.

But the a.net myth that Ryanair only use secondary airports is just that....complete myth (are DUB, LGW, STN etc. all 'secondary'?). Ryanair fly 67 million passengers to where they want to go, so how is it objective to claim what are secondary airports? There is no use whatsoever in me flying to Frankfurt am Main if my destination isn't in Frankfurt, so why should I be 'expected' to fly there just because it's convenient for other airlines to do so?

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 7):
I will pay more to use the full service airline, if the flight is a longer sector and they aren't charging a ridiculous amount more.

But what do you mean by a 'longer' sector?
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:21 pm

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 9):

I didn't say they ONLY fly to secondary airports, it's just that for the places I want to go, U2 usually fly to more convenient airports, hence why I, personally, IMHO, and in my particular case, prefer to use U2.

By longer sectors, I mean places such SSH. If BA was only a little more expensive than U2, I would choose to fly with them, as I do find BA's seats to be more comfortable, and would like to have the free on board catering. IMHO (and again, only IMHO), those things are worth paying slightly more for. Of course, if BA was 1.5x or 2x the price, I would fly U2.

I am only saying these things from my own experience and view point. If other people find FR more convenient, or better value, that's absolutely fine. For the routes I fly, and the fares on offer, I mostly use U2.
 
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:29 pm

Fly enough and at one time or another, you will appreciate one carrier for one particular reason... Not a dig at FR, I'm just saying any airline can make the difference any day of the week. What that difference is depends on each one of us. For most, it's a low-fare, for others it's something else.

About two months ago, my sister scored a 800 euros ticket from AC on a BRU-FRA-YYZ-YUL-FRA-BRU. She booked and bought it at the airport less than an hour before the BRU-FRA leg departed... Needless to say she loves AC now.
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:31 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Organising a short trip to Tunisia, I am offered return fares to Tunisia by Air France and BA for 620 and 731 euro respectively. Searching further, I managed to get a one-way flight from Monastir to Dublin, via East Midlands, for 120 euro. Fine, so now I need to get out there. But checking again for one-way fares via the aforementioned airlines for fares to Tunis, Air France are charging 783 euro (a full 163 euro more than the return trip), and BA are looking for 1,151 euro, a whopping 420 euro more!

I really thought this crazy pricing structure was as much history as the 1970s, but it seems I'm wrong. Apart from business and first class passengers, do airlines really expect people to pay these nonsensical fares in 2010? Maybe they do, but I won't be one of them . . .

Ryanair, all is forgiven . . .

Try Transavia.com they have a cheap flights from Tunisia to Paris Orly and then maybe to Dublin with another lowcost ???
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:44 pm

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 9):
complete myth (are DUB, LGW, STN etc. all 'secondary'?)


STN is the 5th most convenient airport for the city it serves. So i would say yes.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:50 pm

FR to Germany and then Air Belin to Tunisia......
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:57 pm

Buddy,

I know what you´re talking about.
Searching up and down the engines during preparations for my trip to Tunis in April.
In the end Tunisair flights ex French airports are also expensive but acceptable
to built something around.
Also MXP or FCO had a number of flights to Tunisia with acceptable fares.
Transavia France ex Paris seems also an alternative.

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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:14 pm

I for one have absolutely no complaints about Ryanair. I have used them many times and have always been completely happy with the service.

Let me summarise some examples we've used them:

Needed to go to Cork. EMA-ORK, 2p return (including taxes). Main airport for the area.
Wanted a day in Dublin. EMA-DUB. 2p return (including taxes). Again the main airport.
Had requirement to visit a clinic in Haugesund, Norway, twice last year. Direct flight STN-HAU. Airport 10 mins from town. £130 return, but the next alternative was SAS, at £300 and going via OSL. 5 hours travelling vs 1.5, and flying from LHR (would rather go from STN as it's quieter and nicer).

On each occasion the flights have been on time, crew have been friendly enough and it was, all in all, a most pleasant experience.

You also have to think - people complain about them flying to "out of the way airports". The main targets for these "out of the way airports" are DUB, STN etc. Maybe they seem "out of the way" to those in the UK, but for people living in small towns around Europe they have a very cheap and convenient direct flight from their local airport to large cities such as London, Dublin, Barcelona, Frankfurt, etc.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:13 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):

If you're the adventurous type, try a flight to Sicily and the ferry from there to Tunisia...

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 7):
as they fly to the main airports rather than secondary ones

In another thread, I compiled a list of FR airports.
Why Do You Hate Ryanair? (by jayeshrulz Apr 28 2010 in Aviation Polls)
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Out of their 150 destinations, 130 of them are the main airport for the city served, and 20 aresecondary airports.

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 13):

STN is the 5th most convenient airport for the city it serves.

From where I live, STN is the *most* convenient London airport. Granted this may not be the case for everyone though!

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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:44 pm

I only realised this post had been moved today, so thanks to all who replied.

Quoting callbell (Reply 6):
Don't forget to let us know how you get on finding a one-way fare out to MIR too.

I ended-up with a 60 euro Aer Lingus fare to Frankfurt, and a 162 euro Tunisair flight from there. Fingers crossed there'll be no delays as there's a three and a half hour connection. I prefer a longer connection if it's not a through ticket.

Quoting vlad1971 (Reply 12):
Try Transavia.com they have a cheap flights from Tunisia to Paris Orly and then maybe to Dublin with another lowcost ???

Didn't know that, but Flyglobespan have flights on Wednesdays from Brussels to Monastir. That was an option, but I'd have to do a day trip to Tunis from Monastir, which would mean an unnecessary trip. There are no flights from Orly to Dublin, so I'd have to get the Aeroport de Paris bus between the two.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 15):
In the end Tunisair flights ex French airports are also expensive but acceptable
to built something around

Tunisair are the cheapest carrier to Tunis from the European hubs, with flights below 200 euro (one way). Their website is a bit of a mess, and it wouldn't accept my credit card, for some reason, so I ended-up booking through Expedia.

Quoting signol (Reply 17):
If you're the adventurous type, try a flight to Sicily and the ferry from there to Tunisia...

Oh I would just love to do that! Unfortunately I can only manage five days for the trip as I'm short of holidays this year (and every year, it seems . . .).  
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:29 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 18):
but Flyglobespan have flights on Wednesdays from Brussels to Monastir

Surely you mean Jetairfly  
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:48 pm

Quoting eicvd (Reply 19):
Jetairfly

LOL! You're probably right . . . Two airlines with similar, meaningless, three-syllable names.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:05 pm

Shame you couldnt go for a week on the Tunisair charter from DUB with Sunway it was around €299
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:22 pm

Quoting oa260 (Reply 21):
Shame you couldnt go for a week on the Tunisair charter from DUB with Sunway it was around €299

I didn't know about that. I could've tried for a one-way flight with them, alhthough I wouldn't have a clue where to book. All the travel agents in the town have closed. How did we manage without the internet? What days to they fly, as a matter of interest?
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:23 pm

When are you going? Picking a random date in August, you can buy one-way DUB-FCO with Aer Lingus for £66, then a separate ticket FCO-Monastir for £103 on Tunisair. Alternatively, £95 FCO-Tunis on Alitalia or Tunisair (continue to Monastir by train). All prices on Kayak.

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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:00 am

Quoting signol (Reply 23):
When are you going? Picking a random date in August, you can buy one-way DUB-FCO with Aer Lingus for £66, then a separate ticket FCO-Monastir for £103 on Tunisair. Alternatively, £95 FCO-Tunis on Alitalia or Tunisair (continue to Monastir by train). All prices on Kayak.

You know I tried Kayak, and was offered some great fares, but as soon as I went to book the fare went up, with a "Why has this fare changed?" link heading. This happened several times so I gave up.

[Edited 2010-06-07 17:01:49]
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:20 am

The once weekly DUB-MIR flight is operated by Nouvelair on a Saturday, TU also fly a once weekly charter also on a Saturday to Enfidha.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:16 am

Prices that are actually available   My random date is 30th August, DUB-FCO in the morning and FCO - Tunisia in the evening...

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 24):
Quoting signol (Reply 23):
one-way DUB-FCO with Aer Lingus

EUR83.31 on aerlingus.com
£95.10 with Air Baltic (via Riga! very early departure though...) booked on ebookers.co.uk

Quoting signol (Reply 23):
FCO-Monastir

229 Tunisian dinars (£102.87) on tunisair.com.tn

Quoting signol (Reply 23):
FCO-Tunis on Alitalia or Tunisair

£97.30 on alitalia.com
213 Tunisian dinars (£95.68) on tunisair.com.tn

Tunisair also seem to have a Gatwick - Monastir flight twice per week, for £115

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[Edited 2010-06-07 18:20:52]
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:50 am

Quoting signol (Reply 26):
EUR83.31 on aerlingus.com
Quoting signol (Reply 26):
229 Tunisian dinars (£102.87) on tunisair.com.tn

Great fares, but I may have been restricted by my outward-bound date as none of the sites I tried (and believe me, I must have tried them all) threw up the Rome connection . Converted to euro, your fare from Dubin comes in at 208, my total was 222, so I didn't do to badly. I did much better on the return leg, with a 120 euro fare with Jet 2 MIR-EMA flight and a 20 euro onward fare to DUB. Okay there's an eight-hour connectiion in EMA., but on of the benifits of being an aviation enthusiast is that we actually LIKE airports and long connection times aren't ususally seen as a problem. Beats over a grand with BA! Mabye someone should tell Wille Walsh there's a recession on . . .

Quoting signol (Reply 26):
£95.10 with Air Baltic (via Riga! very early departure though...)

LOL! Done that twice in the last year, once to Moscow and another to Belgrade. Air Baltic seem to be turning Riga into a nice little hub with their great fares to unusual destinations. It's a 1am departure to Riga which gets you there in time for all of their early morning departures. Some of the connection times can be lengthy, but as I said in the previous paragraph . . .

Nice little airport to spend seveal hours in, although plane spotting is mostly restricted to Air Baltic.
 
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RE: When You Actually Appreciate Ryanair . . .

Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:27 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 22):
I didn't know about that. I could've tried for a one-way flight with them

Yeah it would have meant giving them a call directly they are based in Dun Laoghaire.

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