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Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:26 pm

Which airlines still fly the 767-200 non ER?
Does AA still have some 762non ER?
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:30 pm

United and Delta stopped flying them but AA still has some, they use them exclusively in teh JFK to LAX and SFO 3-class transcon market.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:37 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 1):
but AA still has some, they use them exclusively in teh JFK to LAX and SFO 3-class transcon market.

All of AAs are ERs.
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:46 pm

Of major airlines, only JAL flies 762As anymore, and those 3 frames will be gone soon (if they aren't already).

Most 762As are stored. Most of those still in service have been converted to cargo. Except for JAL's, the few passenger examples left in service are flying for smaller operators, many in out-of-the-way places.

The HGW 752 basically made the 762A obsolete.

Edit: Looks like all 3 of JAL's 762As are now stored. So there are no major airlines left operating the type.

[Edited 2010-06-21 12:47:48]
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:50 pm

Quoting LY777 (Thread starter):
Does AA still have some 762non ER?

No American doesn't have any original 200 variant anymore. They had at one time a total of 30 762's including 8 non ER's which were delivered in the early to mid 80's, the rest were ER variants. The ER's were delivered in the mid to late 80's.
All of the original non ER's along with 4 ER's were parked in Roswell NM, the oldest two airframes N301AA and N302AA have been scrapped for good.
One of the ER variants was lost 9-11 when it was flying BOS-LAX as AA 011, another one was damaged beyond economical repair in LAX during the summer of 2006.
American is now left with 15 or 16 200ER's which are flown mostly on JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO transcon flights, as well as one daily JFK-MIA. Those are likely to stay a few more years, at least till the first few 787's are delivered.


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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:22 pm

Looking through the photos here, the only PAX one seems to be with Air Gabon


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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:06 pm

A pity the 767-200 is "already outdated". I flew Braathens SAFE's 242-seat 762 in the 1980s, great aircraft and a config ahead of its time.

Wonder if a 242-seat 762 would be an economical option for LCC carriers on longer routes? Braathens SAFE's aircraft had a range of 6,500 km apparently...
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:20 pm

will be challenging

u can't stuff it to the brink with 8-abreast, its engines are gas-guzzlers, and 7-abreast twin-aisle is the most volume wasting configuration possible

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
Wonder if a 242-seat 762 would be an economical option for LCC carriers on longer routes? Braathens SAFE's aircraft had a range of 6,500 km apparently...
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:31 am

Quoting oly720man (Reply 5):
Looking through the photos here, the only PAX one seems to be with Air Gabon

It looks like there are active individual frames with operators in the US (Vision), Jordan, Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia. I don't know which (if any) of these frames are actually in service.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:34 am

Kam Air of Afghanistan are using theirs to London which was launched yesterday.
 
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:22 am


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That appears to be it for active 762s with the exception of private/government builds.
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:28 am

Quoting oly720man (Reply 5):
Looking through the photos here, the only PAX one seems to be with Air Gabon

Air Gabon doesn't exist anymore for 6 years.... Now it is Gabon Airlines and it is a former United B762ER flying LBV-MRS-CDG and LBV-PNR-JNB
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:32 am

What killed the 762?
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:01 am

Quoting EastAlt (Reply 12):
What killed the 762?

I think this just about sums it up:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
The HGW 752 basically made the 762A obsolete
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:11 am

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
A pity the 767-200 is "already outdated". I flew Braathens SAFE's 242-seat 762 in the 1980s, great aircraft and a config ahead of its time.

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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:31 pm

Was on Air Seychelles S7-ILF in May 2009, I think that is a non-ER
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:57 pm

Quoting EastAlt (Reply 12):
What killed the 762?
Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
its engines are gas-guzzlers,

UA has stated this is the reason its early-build 762s were pulled out of service.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
The HGW 752 basically made the 762A obsolete.

The 753 carried carries about the same passenger load as the 762.

In addition, the four passenger doors and two plug window exits aren't up to current safety standards for a 200+ passenger aircraft.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:15 pm

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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:57 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 4):
American is now left with 15 or 16 200ER's which are flown mostly on JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO transcon flights, as well as one daily JFK-MIA.

Why doesn't AA use them on TATL legs like CO does? Are there different variants of the -ER as well? Are the ones AA flies not HGW and CO's is?
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:23 pm

Quoting c5load (Reply 18):
Why doesn't AA use them on TATL legs like CO does? Are there different variants of the -ER as well? Are the ones AA flies not HGW and CO's is?

Not since the early 2000s. IIRC, JFK-LHR at one point was flown on 762s, as well as EWR-LHR. Other interesting AA TATL 762 routes included the very pre-9/11 ORD-ARN. CO is still king in this respect.

Anyone recall the last AA 762A routes? I remember BOS-MCO was flown with one in 2001.
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RE: Which Airlines Still Fly The 767-200 Non ER?

Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:21 pm

Quoting LY777 (Thread starter):
Which airlines still fly the 767-200 non ER?

Salut LY777!

B767-200 NON ER:

1. VISION AIRLINES USA
2. GABON AIRLINES
3. KAM AIR
4. Royal Falcon

-S7-ILF of AIR SEYCHELLES is reported to be a re-config. ER version. Dlvd. as B767-205 to BRAATHENS, but at least changed to -ER status during ops for Maxjet! Can anybody confirm?

Quoting ua777222 (Reply 10):
That appears to be it for active 762s with the exception of private/government builds.

There are many airlines with B762 around, but unfortunately -ER version's.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 17):
This one is a regular at ICN:

The Business Air is a B767-200 modell ET.

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 11):
Now it is Gabon Airlines and it is a former United B762ER flying LBV-MRS-CDG and LBV-PNR-JNB

Those are B767-222 non -ER.

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