flyboy80
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FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:27 pm

Firstly I welcome all flight attendants, and of course everyone else to chime in on this post.

When I say "large" airline I will be referring to large legacy carriers employing thousands of FAs, foreign and domestic (LCC included)

As a regional FA, I've always been curious about large airlines and their flight attendant groups. Sometimes it seems the large airlines employ thousands of FAs, and often that in just one base therefore is it possible to get to know a lot of your co-workers when you work at one of these companies? It would seem that you would almost always be flying with colleagues you haven't met before.

Is it difficult to gain proficiency on so many aircraft types? Lets just use American Airlines as an example. Adding up all those types, then all those positions, galleys, etc. Seems like It could get awkward and confusing. We fly two types of aircraft and sometimes when I'll be flying "the other one" I will have to stop and think about where something is before I go digging for it. I can't imagine what it must be like to go from flying domestic on an MD80 for two years and then finding you have a trip on a 777 next bid.

I would imagine this a great benefit at large LCCs- simplicity. On-board remains less complex compared to larger companies with diverse fleet structures.

Thanks for entertaining my interests, and I look forward to comments!
 
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:39 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Thread starter):
Is it difficult to gain proficiency on so many aircraft types? Lets just use American Airlines as an example. Adding up all those types, then all those positions, galleys, etc. Seems like It could get awkward and confusing. We fly two types of aircraft and sometimes when I'll be flying "the other one" I will have to stop and think about where something is before I go digging for it. I can't imagine what it must be like to go from flying domestic on an MD80 for two years and then finding you have a trip on a 777 next bid.

At AA, some Flight Attendants are not qualified on every aircraft. This is especially true with more senior FAs. Compared to DL, were every FA most be qualified on every aircraft. Being qualified on so many planes is really not a problem at AA, since AA streamlines emergency equipment, and jumpseat positions in the same order, or place on every aircraft.

With such a large number of FAs at one base, you get to know most. Some transfer in, or swap with another base FA, but you get pretty much the same players. You know the ones to avoid, as well as the ones you enjoy working with.  

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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:58 pm

At WN we have about 9700 FA's and 8 crew bases. My base has about 1400 FA's and while after many years I feel like I know a lot of people, there's always 2 or 3 per month who I've never met.

As for Aircraft, WN is unique in that our aircraft are all the same with about 99% similarity in interior configuration. Galleys are also 99% identical, there are very small difference in where some things are located or emergency equipment, Exit Rows etc. Otherwise all service is the same on all routes and all aircraft have the same emergency procedures and exit operation.
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flyboy80
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:07 pm

I guess it says a lot for human ability to recognize others and store information. At my airline we have only 340 in base, and I know who about 70 percent of them are, and would be able to recall something interesting about each one from past converstation. Without seeing a name tag I want to say I could name around 50 percent of them.

But doesn't AA have some bases with over 5K FA?

Whats WNs largest domicile? PHX?

Obviously every flight attendant group has at least a small "no-fly list" haha.
 
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:10 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 3):
Whats WNs largest domicile? PHX?

MDW I think, it's currently 1600 FA's roughly, with PHX in close second... last I looked.

and yes, I have a No-FLy list but it's short.
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:24 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 3):
But doesn't AA have some bases with over 5K FA?

I believe there's anywhere from 18-19K American Airlines FA's. I'm willing to bet atleast 6-7K of them are based at Dallas/Fort Worth.

Another thing worth noting, AA separates domestic and international crew bases. So if you're DFW Intl, there's no need for you to be based on the Super 80 or any configuration of the 737.
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flyboy80
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:24 pm

Everyone always says nothing but great things about WN, do you ever fly with FAs than complain about it?? lol
 
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:56 pm

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 1):
At AA, some Flight Attendants are not qualified on every aircraft.

Do the AA folks have to bid by aircraft type then routes then get qualified for the type bid for?

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 3):
Obviously every flight attendant group has at least a small "no-fly list" haha.

That is true. I know of a few F9 FA's who absolutely refuse to fly or bid certain routes.
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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:12 pm

I've always been curious about F/A's at regional airlines. It seems as if they fly for such long hours and short hops, it looks very tiring. What made you wanna work for a regional airline rather than a mainline operatior?
Not a flight attendant, however, I will chine in. At US we have bases in CLT, DCA, PHL and PHX, I believe the largest crew base is CLT. No difference between International and domestic, any East F/A based in either CLT ot PHL can wotk an International trip from their domicile/base. As long as the have the seniority to bid the flights, some flights go very senior and are very popular with crews (TLV, FCO, VCE, BCN, MAD etc). During the summer in particular when bad weather hits coupled with a multitude of other issues some TATL flights might go with junior reserve crews/ if the scheduled crew times out.
Recently we have closed PIT, LGA and BOS, I dont think LAS had a crew base
I dont know how many F/A's we currently have active.

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RE: FA Life At Large Airlines.

Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:36 am

At Hawaiian we have just about 1100....1030 based in Honolulu and 70 based in LAX. The LAX base are qualified on the 76 and 330 while HNL is cross qualified on 76/330/717. The LAX base usually only has one pairing that they fly over and over (so boring otherwise I would think about transferring) but they can fly high hours( 140- 160 mo) so I guess money over happiness. HNL base has a lot more flexiblility. We can fly interisland and worldwide if we like in the same month, but most FAs like to do just one type. Interisland FAs come home ever day so they get to see their family everyday. Worldwide FAs can work west coast turns or 5 day trips to SYD.

Its the same here as far as a having a "no fly list". There is a small list of FAs I would rather not fly with for various reasons but with our bidding system, seniors cannot always avoid flying with a certain junior lazy ass but the junior fa can put the seniority number of the senior they would like to avoid.


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