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Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countries?

Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:10 am

Which current nonstop route would typically fly over the most countries? Assuming that the Great Circle route is the exact route flown, it appears that LHR-SIN ( http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lhr-sin ) would fly over 16 countries:

U.K.
Netherlands
Germany
Poland
Belarus
Ukraine
Russia
Kazakhstan
Uzbekistan
Tajikistan
Afghanistan
Pakistan
India
Thailand
Malaysia
Singapore
 
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:46 am

LGW - MLE I also count 16

UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Czech Rep., Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, UAE, Oman and the Maldives.

CDG - SGN I count 17 but does VN operate to CDG from Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi?
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:15 am

Quoting extspotter (Reply 1):
CDG - SGN I count 17 but does VN operate to CDG from Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi?

Great one! According to VN's website, they have nonstops from both HAN and SGN to CDG. Can anyone top 17?
 
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:09 am

AMS-CPT has 20 - if only GCMap.com had a zoom function!

Netherlands - Belgium - (maybe) Luxembourg - France - Switzerland - (maybe) Monaco, if that counts - Italy - Tunisia - Algeria - Libya - Niger - Nigeria - Gabon - Cameroon - Gabon - Congo - DR Congo - Angola - Namibia - South Africa

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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:50 am

Quoting MCO2BRS (Reply 3):
AMS-CPT has 20 - if only GCMap.com had a zoom function!

Just use Google Earth   AMS-CPT just misses Luxembourg and Monaco though.


DOH-NYC has 19:

Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi, Kuwait, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Germany, Netherlands, England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Canada, USA.

DXB-HOU has 16:

UAE, Iran, Azerbaijan, Yerevan, Georgia, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Canada, USA.

CDG-BKK has 20;

France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand. The Kashmir area is a bit of a mess though!


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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:44 am

England Scotland and Northern Ireland are 1 country! Also Yerevan isn't a country, it is the capital of Armenia. I expected better from you, Dan!
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:05 pm

Quoting extspotter (Reply 5):
England Scotland and Northern Ireland are 1 country! Also Yerevan isn't a country, it is the capital of Armenia. I expected better from you, Dan!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_United_Kingdom

Aren't they separate countries that are part of 1 sovereign state ??
 
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:10 pm

They just aren't seperate countries. We all share a "national" government, and all vote in the same elections to decide who will run the country.
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:05 pm

Thanks, guys. Another similar question - other than IST-GRU ( http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ist-gru ) are there any nonstop routes that fly over 4 continents?
 
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:29 am

Indeed, slip of the tongue with Yerevan and Armenia, although IIRC the flight path is above Nagorno-Karabakh so in fact it's pretty much neither. Same really for Azerbaijan, as the path overflies Nakhchivan which is an autonomous region which has a strong independant identity. The whole Caucasus region is a total mess, there's half a dozen autonomous regions around there which aren't actually countries... yet.

Quoting extspotter (Reply 7):
They just aren't seperate countries. We all share a "national" government, and all vote in the same elections to decide who will run the country.


They are four separate constituent countries which to all intensive purposes act just like any other country; England; Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, which together form the United Kingdom. Political power has been devolved to their respective parliaments in London, Belfast, Edinburgh and Cardiff where they create their own jurisdiction and their own MP sit in office, whilst still being able to sit in Westminster, although many chose not to. From a geographical perspective, this is similar to Denmark being made up of Greenland, the Faroe Island and Denmark itself, or the Netherlands and their overseas countries/territories.


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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:10 pm

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 8):
Thanks, guys. Another similar question - other than IST-GRU ( http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ist-gru ) are there any nonstop routes that fly over 4 continents?

Assuming we're sticking to the standard 7 plate definition, then JED-ORD and JED-JFK on Saudi Arabian are a couple I can think of off the top of my head. They pass over the Asian, African, European and North American plates. Insanely cheap too!


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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:42 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 9):
They are four separate constituent countries which to all intensive purposes act just like any other country; England; Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, which together form the United Kingdom. Political power has been devolved to their respective parliaments in London, Belfast, Edinburgh and Cardiff where they create their own jurisdiction and their own MP sit in office, whilst still being able to sit in Westminster, although many chose not to. From a geographical perspective, this is similar to Denmark being made up of Greenland, the Faroe Island and Denmark itself, or the Netherlands and their overseas countries/territories.

Thats my understanding also, I have several friends from Scotland who are very erm... nationalistic? to put it lightly lol The Welsh side of my family also considers themselves to be Welsh before British (Which just makes me a mongrel... Cymrenglish? Wenlglish? lol)

As for flying over four continents, aside from what PlymSpotter has already suggested - we may have to wait until the 787 EIS before we see more 'obvious' routings.

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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:48 pm

I'm not sure there could be many others, as the flights have to originate and terminate in very specific regions in order to overfly four continents, and such city pairs seem quite unlikely in the foreseeable future. Siberia/Caucasus/Southern Russia to South America, South West Saudi Arabia/Yemen to North America so the GC route just clips Egypt, or possibly Spain/Portugal/Gibraltar to South West Australia - I'm not sure if that would just touch Africa or not.

Most probable is a Yemen-North America link.


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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:15 pm

Another side note:
Whicht 1-stop flights combine landings and take-offs in 3 continents?

LHR-LAX-AKL (NZ)
IST-DKR-GRU (TK)
LHR-SIN-SYD/MEL (QF/BA)
LHR-BKk-SYD/MEL (QF)
FRA-SIN-SYD (QF)
LHR-HKG-AKL (NZ)
LHR-HKG-SYD/MEL (VS)

Are some I can think off.
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:19 pm

Quoting 330lover (Reply 13):
IST-DKR-GRU (TK

Wasn't this stop in DKR replaced by the nonstop TK 15/16 IST-GRU-IST?

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
I'm not sure there could be many others, as the flights have to originate and terminate in very specific regions in order to overfly four continents

Agreed. However, one more possibility for a current nonstop that flies over 4 continents might be Conviasa DAM-CCS ( http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dam-ccs ) if it passes directly over an island in the West Indies long after it clips Crete and Tunisia.

[Edited 2010-08-21 16:22:11]
 
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:19 am

Quoting 330lover (Reply 13):
Another side note:
Whicht 1-stop flights combine landings and take-offs in 3 continents?

LHR-LAX-AKL (NZ)
IST-DKR-GRU (TK)
LHR-SIN-SYD/MEL (QF/BA)
LHR-BKk-SYD/MEL (QF)
FRA-SIN-SYD (QF)
LHR-HKG-AKL (NZ)
LHR-HKG-SYD/MEL (VS)

Are some I can think off.

Also:
KUL-CPT-EZE (MH)
ATL-AMS-BOM (DL).
 
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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:26 am

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 14):
Agreed. However, one more possibility for a current nonstop that flies over 4 continents might be Conviasa DAM-CCS ( http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dam-ccs ) if it passes directly over an island in the West Indies long after it clips Crete and Tunisia.


Good one yes, I hadn't realised it just clipped North Africa. There is a good chance it will overfly the North American plate landmass, I can't check on GE as the machine I'm on right now won't support it.

Other one stops:

BJS-MAD-GRU - Air China
KWI-LHR-JFK - Kuwait Airways
CAI-DXB-SIN - Singapore Airlines

I'm sure there must be Turkey-Crete-North Africa flights undertaken at one point, which would be the shortest route between three continents. On that note, what's the shortest flight between two continents? I'm thinking the helicopter service to Ceutra might be it:

AGP-JCU at 70 miles.

Or are there any other Caribbean to South America routes, or elsewhere?


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RE: Which Nonstop Route Flies Over The Most Countr

Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:08 pm

Quoting 330lover (Reply 13):
Whicht 1-stop flights combine landings and take-offs in 3 continents?

ADD-FCO-IAD on Ethiopian

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 16):
On that note, what's the shortest flight between two continents?

Perhaps IST-YEI (Bursa, Turkey) on TK which is 63 miles.

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