netjetsintl
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The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or LAX?

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:19 pm

Curiosity more than anything, but which of these Western airports gets more flights to and from the Far East, LHR or LAX???

I assume CDG, FRA, SFO and JFK are upthere as well....
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:33 pm

I'm guessing that you would assume the Far East being an area of Asia that east of India, but not including India, and west west of Japan, and including Japan

I don't know the frequencies or number of seats, but just looking at maps for those six airports, nonstop routes can be observed as follow.

FRA 1(5) - KUL SIN BKK HKG SGN HAN CAN TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT NGO KIX

CDG (13) KUL SIN BKK SGN HAN CAN TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT KIX

LAX (11) HKG CAN TPE PVG PEK ICN NRT BKK SIN MNL (GUM?)

LHR (9) KUL SIN BKK HKG TPE PVG PEK ICN NRT

SFO (9) TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT KIX MNL (GUM?)

JFK (5) HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT

I think this is a fairly accurate pix of Far East nonstop routes from these airports.

[Edited 2010-09-09 14:34:51]
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:52 pm

I'm quite sure AMS would be quite high up aswell.

According to wikipedia (Not the greatest source) AMS has flights to

HKG, PEK, PVG, TPE, BKK, SIN, NRT, ICN, KUL, CAN, MNL, KIX, CGK, CTU, HGH, DPS

a total of 16 destinations.
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:27 pm

The question seemed to be about number of flights

So we know the number of destinations but what about number of flights.....
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:29 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):
FRA 1(5) - KUL SIN BKK HKG SGN HAN CAN TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT NGO KIX

CDG (13) KUL SIN BKK SGN HAN CAN TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT KIX

LAX (11) HKG CAN TPE PVG PEK ICN NRT BKK SIN MNL (GUM?)

LHR (9) KUL SIN BKK HKG TPE PVG PEK ICN NRT

Thanx, just curious, always wondered what western airport had the most flights to/from Asia... certainly didn't think it was FRA, I'd have thought it was LAX or LHR
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:46 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):
LAX (11) HKG CAN TPE PVG PEK ICN NRT BKK SIN MNL (GUM?)
Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 4):
FRA, I'd have thought it was LAX or LHR

Need to remember frequencies.

2 TPE flights out of LAX, 2 HKG flights, 4 ICN flights and 7 NRT flights. So city wise LAX may be behind FRA but I'm certain that LAX has more actual Asian flights.
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:22 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):
JFK (5) HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT

EWR (6) NRT TPE PEK PVG HKG SIN
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:34 am

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 5):

don't forget that MH has their flights LAX-TPE-KUL and NH and eventually DL will have LAX-HND so I believe LAX has more flights to the far east.
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:43 am

LHR:

BKK - 5 daily (BA, QF, BR, 2 x TG)
KUL - 2 daily (MH)
SIN - 7 daily (2 QF, 2 BA, 3 SQ)

HKG - 9 daily (NZ, VS, QF, 2 BA, 4 CX)
ICN - 1 daily + 5 weekly (KE and OZ)
TPE - 3 weekly nonstop (CI)

NRT - 4 daily (NH, JL, BA, VS)

PEK - 2 daily (BA and CA)

PVG - 2 daily?? (MU, BA, VS) - not sure of frequencies for this route.
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:29 pm

I wouldn't expect LAX (or any US airport for that matter), to be in the top 3 even in terms of frequencies because of distance constraints which causes airlines to operate larger planes. Also the strong hubs of NRT/ICN restrict non-stop service from LAX as too many airlines use these hubs to maximize their TPAC operations. To fly non-stop beyond China from LAX it starts to push into the ULH realm, especially so when you factor in the very strong head winds.
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:37 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):
SFO (9) TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT KIX MNL (GUM?)

JFK (5) HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT

I'd add SIN to that list. It's not nonstop but it is the same aircraft, flight number and the final destination after a short fuel stop at FRA (for JFK) and ICN, HKG (for SFO's 2 daily flights)

So that makes:

JFK (6) HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT SIN
SFO (10) TPE HKG PVG PEK ICN NRT KIX MNL (GUM?) SIN
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:53 pm

Quoting cyberual (Reply 7):
don't forget that MH has their flights LAX-TPE-KUL

Good call. I pulled the info from Kayak on a random day in November.
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:56 pm

OK - I'll bite ex FRA and leave the other airports to somebody else

BJS: CA 14/week + LH 7/week
BKK: TG 14/week + LH 7/week
CAN: LH 3/week
HAN: VN 4/week
HKG: LH 7/week + CX 7/week
HKT: DE 2/week
ICN: OZ 7/week + KE 7/week + LH 7/week
KIX: LH 7/week
KUL: MH 5/week
NGO: LH 5/week
NKG: LH 3/week
PVG: LH 10/week + MU 7/week + CA 7/week
SGN: VN 2/week
SIN: LH 7/week + SQ 14/week + QF 7/week
TPE: CI 3/week
TYO: LH 7/week + NH 7/week + JL 7/week

179 per week
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:01 pm

YVR: PEK, PVG, HKG, NRT, ICN, MNL, TPE, soon HND...so that's 7 and soon 8.

AMS: HKG, BKK, TPE, PEK, CAN, CGK, NRT, CTU, DPS, HGH, KUL, MNL, ICN, PVG, SIN for 15 destinations.

HNL: NRT, TPE, NGO, KIX, MNL, ICN and soon HND...so 6, soon 7.

since Australia is culturally Western:

SYD: PEK, PVG, ICN, BKK, HKG, SIN, TPE, CAN, DPS, CGK, NRT, HKT, KUL, MNL, HAN, and SGN for 16 destinations.
AC/AA/UA/DL/B6/WN/US*/CO*/FI/BA/IB/AF/SK/LX/Sabena*/TK/LY/SA/MN/SW/AM/CE*/CX/CA/MU/JL/SQ/TG/MH/KA/5J
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:20 pm

interesting how many folks are counting city pairs.
The real power of an airport is the lift it offers, and that's frequencies.

And so far, looks like LHR is the clear frequency winner, right?

32+ daily from LHR including a handful of 380's; and 28+ from FRA.
And quite a few of those Heathrow flights continue on to other Asian cities in Oz and NZ.

There are 15 from LAX, but shouldn't they be able to add SYD, MEL, AKL, etc?. If these are added LAX will probably turn out to be the clear #2, like netjetsintl speculated.
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:30 pm

Here is LAX.
I pulled schedules for the week of September 20th.

ICN – 31 weekly = 17x KE, 14x OZ
NRT – 49 weekly = 7x NH, 7x UA, 7x JL, 7x SQ, 7x AA, 7x DL, 7x KE
HKG – 17 weekly = 17x CX
PEK – 7 weekly = 7x CA
PVG – 7 weekly = 7x MU
CAN – 5 weekly = 5x CZ
TPE – 33 weekly = 18x BR, 12x CI, 3x MH
SIN – 7 weekly = 7x SQ
MNL – 9 weekly = 9x PR
BKK - 7x weekly = 7x TG

If you add in the South Pacific:
AKL – 19 weekly = 7x QF, 12x NZ
BNE – 9 weekly = 6x QF, 3x VA
NAN – 4 weekly = 4x FJ
PPT – 13 weekly = 10x TN, 3x AF
RAR – 1x weekly = 1x NZ
SYD – 34 weekly =14x QF, 7x DL, 7x UA, 6x VA
MEL – 9 weekly = 7x QF, 2x VA

TOTAL = 261 Weekly Departures.

Anyone want to add freighters in? We have about 100 freighter frequencies for Asia/Pacific regions weekly also.
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:32 pm

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 4):
Thanx, just curious, always wondered what western airport had the most flights to/from Asia... certainly didn't think it was FRA, I'd have thought it was LAX or LHR

FRA has more directly-served destinations (total destinations worldwide) than any other airport in Europe I believe CDG and AMS are next. You can fly direct from all 3 airports to significantly more destinations in the world than from LHR.
 
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RE: The Most Flights To/from The Far East, LHR Or

Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:21 pm

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 2):
I'm quite sure AMS would be quite high up aswell.

According to wikipedia (Not the greatest source) AMS has flights to

HKG, PEK, PVG, TPE, BKK, SIN, NRT, ICN, KUL, CAN, MNL, KIX, CGK, CTU, HGH, DPS

HKG: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 7x CX
PEK: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 7x CZ
PVG: 11x weekly = 11x KL
CAN: 7x weekly = 7x CZ
CTU: 4x weekly = 4x KL
HGH: 3x weekly = 3x KL
ICN: 10x weekly = 7x KL, 3x KE
NRT: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 7x JL (JL services will end soon)
KIX: 7x weekly = 7x KL
MNL: 7x weekly = 7x KL
TPE: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 4x CI, 3x BR
BKK: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 4x CI, 3x BR
KUL: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 7x MH
SIN: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 7x SQ
CGK: 14x weekly = 7x KL, 7x GA
DPS: 4x weekly = 4x KL
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