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Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:49 am

Other than dual jetways, are there any airports that have jetways that board from the RIGHT side of a plane, where passengers must turn left to go to the Y cabin when they board the plane?

From what I heard, the reason why aircraft are usually boarded from the left is because the cargo hold door is on the right side on most aircraft. However, does anyone know of examples of airports that have right-boarding jetways? I know that at airports without jetways they can simply be boarded from the right with mobile airstairs, though.
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:55 am

Not that I know of - I know on some aircraft that the right hand door is much smaller as it was only designed to load the catering supplies etc, so you couldn't board through it even if you wanted to.
 
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:43 pm

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 1):

Not that I know of - I know on some aircraft that the right hand door is much smaller as it was only designed to load the catering supplies etc, so you couldn't board through it even if you wanted to.

Sounds a bit strange as it would limit emergency egress and so limit seating numbers. I'm not doubting what you're saying but can you give any examples of commercial transport like this?
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:54 pm

At the old Orlando airport, I once deplaned from an L-1011 through a jetway hooked up to the right-hand forward door.

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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:03 pm

Quoting Woof (Reply 2):
Sounds a bit strange as it would limit emergency egress and so limit seating numbers. I'm not doubting what you're saying but can you give any examples of commercial transport like this?

CRJ and ERJ models have really small front right hand doors compared to the left. Not sure about the rear but they're really small.
 
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:58 pm

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 4):

CRJ and ERJ models have really small front right hand doors compared to the left. Not sure about the rear but they're really small.

Thanks for that. I'll be more alert next time I fly on one, although it's rather rare that I do.
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:44 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
does anyone know of examples of airports that have right-boarding jetways?

When AC put their first 747-100s in service in 1972 they had one gate at YVR with bridges that connected to the forward door on both right and left sides. I can remember boarding an AC 747 once from that gate and they used both sides. I think one side was used for F class and the other for Y class.

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 4):
Quoting Woof (Reply 2):
Sounds a bit strange as it would limit emergency egress and so limit seating numbers. I'm not doubting what you're saying but can you give any examples of commercial transport like this?

CRJ and ERJ models have really small front right hand doors compared to the left. Not sure about the rear but they're really small.

As did the 707 which had very small right-hand doors intended primarily for galley servicing and emergency exits, not for passenger boarding. Those doors were much shorter than the left hand passenger doors. That was also true of many other types including the DC-9 and MD-80/90.

The TWA 707-131 below has the short galley service doors at both front and rear. I think the larger door was optional as AA's 707-123s had a taller door at the front and small door at the rear. In the AA photo note the top of the rear galley door is within the blue stripe.


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I think all 707-320/420 models had the small galley doors at both front and rear.


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MD-80 galley service and passenger doors (same on DC-9).


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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:47 pm

Yes at LAX at old T-2 and T-3 we had a couple right side boarding jetways.
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:56 am

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 4):
Quoting Woof (Reply 2):
Sounds a bit strange as it would limit emergency egress and so limit seating numbers. I'm not doubting what you're saying but can you give any examples of commercial transport like this?


CRJ and ERJ models have really small front right hand doors compared to the left. Not sure about the rear but they're really small.

Same for the 737's, the right hand doors are smaller than they left. Next time you are on one have a look, any easy way to notice the difference is to observe any crew or Passengers standing beside the doors on the right and you will notice they are shorter.

As an aside, (now i'm not en expert on this so i need correction) but i believe that on A330 aircraft airlines can opt for different sized doors at doors three. I know on QF A332 doors three, they have a single lane slide, and these dorrs are really small, Narrow and short. While on the A333 doors three are standard dual lane doors. I can not remember their names, Type A and Type 1 ring a bell but i can not remember which one is which.
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:55 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
From what I heard, the reason why aircraft are usually boarded from the left is because the cargo hold door is on the right side on most aircraft.

Historically it's because you always mount a horse from the left.

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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:01 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 9):
Historically it's because you always mount a horse from the left


The former word for port, as in portside, is larboard, derived from laden (to load) and bord (board). So, you not only mount a horse from the left but take it onto the ship (or plane) from the left too.  
 
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:20 am

Quoting Quokka (Reply 10):
The former word for port, as in portside, is larboard, derived from laden (to load) and bord (board)

The story I heard was that onboard ships, before integrated rudders were thought of, a steering oar was used. This was a normal oar, positioned vertically on the right side, at the stern, so that someone standing in the middle of the ship could use it to steer with his right hand. So starboard = steering side. Ships then began to moor with the left side to the dock, to avoid damaging the steering oar, so left = port side.

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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:43 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Yes at LAX at old T-2 and T-3 we had a couple right side boarding jetways.

If I remember correctly, DEN Stapleton had one United used for the DC10 occasionally
 
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:39 am

Quoting fshplns (Reply 12):
If I remember correctly, DEN Stapleton had one United used for the DC10 occasionally

Gate B-16 to be exact. It was always a trip, pardon the pun, to go out to the airport and see a DC-10 at B-16 with the jetway mated to door 1 right, i only regret that I never had the pleasure to board through B-16.
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:58 pm

I have always wondered the same, it would be fantastic to board on double jetways on doors 2 on wide body aircraft especially for Y pax, each directly on their own aisle, regardless if their is a 3rd jetway for J or F pax further upfront.
 
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:06 pm

Have a look at this trip report by PlaneHunter. This particular report has a picture which clearly shows 2 jetways, 1 on the left and 1 on the right. A380's can be boarded by the right hand side, but its not normal.
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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:04 pm

I recall that when LH had B747 flying lots of people between FRA and HAJ for major Fairs in Hannover, they were using two gates areas and the respective PBBs at HAJ.
This should have been gates 4 and 5 with the head of gate 5's PBB swung by 180 degree in order to connect to the B747's door 1R.
Another reason to use two gates was that by then, each gate area was way too small to handle a full load of a B747.

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RE: Any Airports With Right-boarding Jetways?

Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:35 am

the gates of the main TXL and CGN terminal 1 are situated in a somewhat circular design.

This means that if aircraft parked nose-in, as opposed to perpendicular to the jetways, they could manuver the adjacent jetway to board from the righthand side as well as the lefthand side simultaneously.

Did it from TXL when LH still flew TXL-IAD nonstop with the A343.
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