ALexeu
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Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:56 pm

Hi,

Is it possible to check-in luggage for 2 different airlines on different tickets?
For example, I'll be flying KUL-AMS-GVA on KL and GVA-ZRH-BEG on LX, and my stopover in GVA is only 50 minutes. The problem is that GVA-ZRH-BEG flight is on different ticket than KUL-AMS-GVA flight, and its a different airline too.

I dont know if the KL folks in KUL can also check in my luggage for LX flight.

Thanx in advance
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:16 pm

Officially they shouldn't tag the luggage through as it's a seperate ticket and its not within the AF/KL/DL grouping as if it misses the connection in GVA then wont take responsibility for it, however I wouldn't be surprised if they do!

Could you have not routed KUL-AMS-BEG as KL codeshares with JU on the AMS-BEG route?
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:08 pm

I work baggage services and have never seen a auto generated tag with more that 2 connections, Im not even sure if it can be printed.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:23 pm

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 1):
Officially they shouldn't tag the luggage through as it's a seperate ticket and its not within the AF/KL/DL grouping as if it misses the connection in GVA then wont take responsibility for it, however I wouldn't be surprised if they do!

So if I bought the ticket via travel agent they would, but if I bought different tickets they cant? The connetion in GVA is only 50 minutes, so I don´t know if I´ll be able to go to check-in twice. At least its good that Switzerland is now in Schengen.

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 1):
Could you have not routed KUL-AMS-BEG as KL codeshares with JU on the AMS-BEG route?

Because I already have a free ticket for AMS-GVA, so I didnt want to not-use it  
Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 2):
I work baggage services and have never seen a auto generated tag with more that 2 connections, Im not even sure if it can be printed.

So if you book DUB-LUT on FR and LUT-FCO on U2, you would have to check in your luggage again in LUT, even if you checked-in online?
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:35 pm

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):


So if you book DUB-LUT on FR and LUT-FCO on U2, you would have to check in your luggage again in LUT, even if you checked-in online?

yes, but that is because the 2 carriers don't interline at all.

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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:45 pm

Quoting Larshjort (Reply 4):
yes, but that is because the 2 carriers don't interline at all.

but I guess KL and LX have some sort of interaction. Both of them are majors and flag carriers!
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:47 pm

Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
I dont know if the KL folks in KUL can also check in my luggage for LX flight.

Depends very much on who you run into. My most recent experience with this is from March when I had a LH flight PRG-FRA and then separate ticket with QR, FRA-DOH-KUL. I just gave both tickets to the LH check-in desk in PRG and they without blink of an eye tagged my luggage all the way to KUL and even issued boarding passes for the the continuing QR flights. It worked the same way on my trip back to Europe as well.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):
So if you book DUB-LUT on FR and LUT-FCO on U2, you would have to check in your luggage again in LUT, even if you checked-in online?

Euro low costs are a specific case as they operate point-to-point network and under no circumstances transfer luggage.

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 2):
never seen a auto generated tag with more that 2 connections

I had a LIH-HNL-SLC-SFO-CDG-PRG tag on my return trip from Hawaii couple years ago. The Hawaiian check-in desk sent it all the way to PRG without any problems and I had separate ticket with them LIH-HNL and then Czech Airlines' FFP award ticket on DL/DL/AF/OK for the rest of the trip.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:01 pm

It can be done with airline that interline, thought they may need to generate the tag with some additional steps.

I did JFK-CDG-JNB on AF with an award ticket and JNB-LVI on a paid one way with SA. At JFK they tagged the bag through to LVI; though it did take them a few mintues to figure out the steps. With a 12 hr layover in Paris and 4 hours in JNB I was nervous. The bag made it just fine.

Be sure to have flight nubmers, etc for the other ticket and check to see if they interline.
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:11 pm

Make SURE you have the ETICKET numbers for your second flight! UA's system, in particular, needs the other eticket to confirm you actually have a ticket for that other flight. Sometimes we can search it, but not always.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:13 pm

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):
So if I bought the ticket via travel agent they would, but if I bought different tickets they cant? The connetion in GVA is only 50 minutes, so I don´t know if I´ll be able to go to check-in twice. At least its good that Switzerland is now in Schengen.

Basically if you had bought one ticket routing KUL-AMS-BEG or in your case KUL-AMS-GVA-ZRH-BEG on one ticket they could tag your bag all the way through. AF/KL are trying to reduce the liability and costs associated with shipping bags that misconnect on seperate tickets, i.e if your bag didn't make the connection in GVA KL would have to pay an associated costs to send the bag through to BEG.

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 2):
I work baggage services and have never seen a auto generated tag with more that 2 connections, Im not even sure if it can be printed.

I've sent a bag through on 4 or 5 flights, all on one ticket btw, through to New Zealand. I think the routing was MAN-AMS-KUL-AKL-CHC or somewhere else in NZ.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:36 pm

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 9):
MAN-AMS-KUL-AKL-CHC or somewhere else in NZ.

So its an international flight transit to domestic flight...what do they do with customs there? The same thing is now problem for many Schengen flights. For example LHR-CDG-FRA, where LHR-CDG needs to passes through customs while CDG-FRA doesn´t. So if you send your baggege from LHR, in FRA you won´t have to pass through customs again.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:39 pm

Ive seen Air New Zealand and British Airways put 2 different tags on bags to cover all the connections! That can be confusing!
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:53 pm

Ive definately had a bag tagged for 3 connections on a few airlines but not recently.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:34 pm

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 10):
So its an international flight transit to domestic flight...what do they do with customs there? The same thing is now problem for many Schengen flights. For example LHR-CDG-FRA, where LHR-CDG needs to passes through customs while CDG-FRA doesn´t. So if you send your baggege from LHR, in FRA you won´t have to pass through customs again.

Each country has its own customs regulations. Most countries in Europe just required you to clear customs with your bags at your destination, however you will need to go through Schengen border control for passports whilst in transit if arriving from the UK.
 
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:54 pm

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 2):
I work baggage services and have never seen a auto generated tag with more that 2 connections, Im not even sure if it can be printed.

It can happen, have had a 3 connection one print out of my tag printer before.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 5):
but I guess KL and LX have some sort of interaction. Both of them are majors and flag carriers!

Does not matter if they are or not. You cant check in from JFK to LHR on VS for example and have the bag tagged to Manchester on BA.

It does happen now and then, but should not do.
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:54 am

I think KL and LX have some sort of connection, even if its another alliance, because all carriers are in the IATA/ICAO, right? I think if you show your e-ticket for the next flight, you should be able to have the connection, even with 2 tickets. But i'm not sure.
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:55 am

Quoting TBloemink (Reply 15):
I think KL and LX have some sort of connection, even if its another alliance, because all carriers are in the IATA/ICAO, right? I think if you show your e-ticket for the next flight, you should be able to have the connection, even with 2 tickets. But i'm not sure.

No, that's not right. With my airline you can thru check to any Oneworld airline on a separate ticket, but to a carrier like KL or LX or VS not in the alliance or same airline you can not. There is the odd carrier out there you can thru check on, so there may indeed be an arrangement between the 2, you would need to speak to a local.
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:13 am

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 16):

I thought it had more to do with interline agreements for bags and not just alliance. I had a ticket issued by SA)">DL, first two flights operated by AF, separate ticket for third segment on SA - bag was checked through no problem because AF and SA interline bags.
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RE: Check-in Luggage For Different Tickets

Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:18 pm

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 14):
Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 2):
I work baggage services and have never seen a auto generated tag with more that 2 connections, Im not even sure if it can be printed.

It can happen, have had a 3 connection one print out of my tag printer before.

I remember when i worked for SQ check-in at MEL. We would regularly tag bags for four or five flights. The printer would print out a bag tag that had three lots of flight details on one tag, and then a second tag would print with the next destination/s. We would always put the tags on, but remind passengers that they would need to check along their journey to make sure their bag would be transfered, and to check if it would need to be collected etc...

As for the different tickets, when you check in and the agent asks "what is your final destination?", tell them what your final destination is and then give them your other ticket. That way they can enter the details of your other flights on the separate ticket, so your bags can then be tagged all the way, its really simple for the agent to add this information.

The tricky part is just hoping it turns up.
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