crj200faguy
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CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:54 am

I searched and didn't find any other threads that asked this question. So if there is one already don't go nuts telling me. Just go read one of the many other threads extolling the virtues of Delta.

Which airline will be the first to allow regionals to operate the C Series and which regional will do it? I know this is purely speculation and I understand the concept of scope. However, scope is never set in stone. If you offer pilots enough incentive scope can change. I don't think 20 years ago people thought regionals would be operating the CRJ900 which is essentially a DC9-10. I don't think we'll see regionals operating the CS300 anytime soon, but the CS100 isn't out of the question. BBD shows it seating 100 in 2 class config. If you reduce the number of first class seats to 12 it could seat 105.

If you are only going to post this will never happen just move on.

Personally, my pick is Delta operated by Pinnacle or ASA.
 
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:59 am

Quoting crj200faguy (Thread starter):
If you are only going to post this will never happen just move on.

So you don't want an informed debate then in which people share views that may not agree with yours?

[Edited 2011-01-24 17:00:17]
 
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:04 am

Republic Airways has 40 CS300s on order.
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:15 am

Quoting catiii (Reply 1):
So you don't want an informed debate then in which people share views that may not agree with yours?

I wasn't asking for a debate. I know that as of now no regionals can operate aircraft that size. I was asking which mainline pilots would cave in first. This was speculation for fun.

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 2):
Republic Airways has 40 CS300s on order.

They aren't going to operate them as a regional. Those are for Frontier.
 
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:22 am

Well considering the fact that no major US regional has them on order, taking into account the pilot scope limitations at DL and AA, the fact that US has E-Jets, and the fact that the new UA/CO is currently having scope issues with Skywest flights at 70 seats, I would say the first major US regional we'll see using the CSeries will be someone on behalf of WN, and that is quite a stretch. So pretty much, it won't be happening anytime soon if it does at all.

Now as a mainline aircraft, Frontier/Republic will be the first.
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:56 am

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 4):
So pretty much, it won't be happening anytime soon if it does at all.

Uh oh. Be careful. You're not allowed to say that.  
 
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:25 am

Brit Air. They already got the CRJ-1000.
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:28 am

Quoting Aesma (Reply 6):
Brit Air. They already got the CRJ-1000.

Then in theory, wouldn't they continue with the CRJ-1000 and not add an additional and more expensive type to their fleet.
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:48 am

Speculating is hard when you limit....speculation.

At 100 seats, even setting aside things like pay, it might well be in an airline's interest to operate the route themselves. There comes a point at which you need to start enforcing your brand. And for my money, I'd say that happens once you start putting triple digit pax numbers in an aluminum tube that you intend to hurtle at significant speeds through the troposphere.

So I don't see any regionals running 100 seat aircraft in the foreseeable future. Beyond that I really can't foresee what will happen!  
 
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RE: CSeries And The Regionals

Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:22 pm

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 7):
Then in theory, wouldn't they continue with the CRJ-1000 and not add an additional and more expensive type to their fleet.

In truth I have no idea. But at least scope shouldn't be an issue. However they don't need the range at all, and it would really be a new type, unlike the CRJ-1000 which is still a derivative.

Those planes are replacing Fokker 100 which also had 100 seats.

ytz : what does "enforcing your brand" mean ? I'm sure a lot of people don't realize they're on a regional, even if the crew isn't trying to conceal it (on Brit Air, the captain announces "Welcome on this Air France flight operated by Brit Air".
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