SNCNtry32
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:25 pm

http://www.examiner.com/airlines-air...d-90s-are-incredibly-uncomfortable

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The seat pitch, whatever it was, made it impossible for me to open my laptop computer when the passenger seated in front of me reclined his seat. It wasn’t even close. In fact, the passenger seated next to me said that he too was a frequent flier and had given up trying to use his laptop on the MD-90.


One Twin Cities bloogers opinion about the MD90.
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:28 pm

Quoting SNCntry32 (Thread starter):
One Twin Cities bloogers opinion about the MD90.

ONE person's opinion means "everyone in MSP hates the MD-90?"   What a load of...
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:29 pm

Is the seat pitch on every Delta aircraft not identical, in coach?

I dont even try to use my laptop on most airlines if I've been relegated to coach. Its perfectly usable on United in E+ however.

The MD-90 may be poorly configured inside, but its an incredibly lovely aircraft - almost totally silent, extremely efficient, stable in the air.

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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:42 pm

Quoting KGRB (Reply 1):
ONE person's opinion means "everyone in MSP hates the MD-90?" What a load of.

Over generalization for effect my dear   Everyone, plus one, including this guy. 5 out of my 5 MD90 flights have gond mechanical.
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:46 pm

I don't live in MSP, but I rather enjoy the MD-90. I've had 3 flights and they were both great, albeit fairly short. The ride was great and a couple years ago when I took one from IAH to ATL, we hit our accel height before we even passed the end of the runway! It's quite the impressive piece of machinery, in my opinion.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:49 pm

A horribly written article to say the least, but I agree with the premise - DL's MD-90 configuration is worse than a CRJ's in terms of comfort, in my experience.

One does have to feel for the MSP residents who were used to 319s and 320s (or even DC-9s)

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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:50 pm

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 4):
I don't live in MSP, but I rather enjoy the MD-90. I've had 3 flights and they were both great, albeit fairly short. The ride was great and a couple years ago when I took one from IAH to ATL, we hit our accel height before we even passed the end of the runway! It's quite the impressive piece of machinery, in my opinion.

I can respect and get how its a powerful plane from the avaiation geeks point of view, I can also appreciate how 160 people is a tight fit on a 3.5 hour flight...
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:59 pm

The complaint in the article/blog is less about the aircraft than it is about the seat pitch. I have not been on a DL MD-90 but I do not believe that the seats are much different than any other DL coach seat. A320 seats are a little wider but the 737 & 757 seats are about the same. The real complaint should be about DL's choice of seat pitch. They could make it 31" like the rest of the fleet or even 34" but they chose 30" to cram an extra row in. That is not a specific fault of the aircraft, it was a choice of the airline. I do not like the lack of bin space on the MD-90s but I do like the reduced number of dreaded middle seats.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:07 pm

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 7):
The complaint in the article/blog is less about the aircraft than it is about the seat pitch. I have not been on a DL MD-90 but I do not believe that the seats are much different than any other DL coach seat. A320 seats are a little wider but the 737 & 757 seats are about the same. The real complaint should be about DL's choice of seat pitch. They could make it 31" like the rest of the fleet or even 34" but they chose 30" to cram an extra row in. That is not a specific fault of the aircraft, it was a choice of the airline. I do not like the lack of bin space on the MD-90s but I do like the reduced number of dreaded middle seats.

"However, I was very irritated by how tight the seating is on Delta’s MD-90"

I think that is the real complaint...
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:10 pm

Uggh. 30" pitch is very unpleasant, the same as US Airways uses on its 737-400 fleet. I don't have much opportunity to fly the Delta MD-90s, but I avoid the US 734s when possible.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:14 pm

The writer claims he couldn't use his laptop when the person in front of them reclined their seat.

That issue is not unique to DL's MD-90. That is common on pretty much every fleet type in Y. I've had many of productive flights on the A319, A320, and 757 when the person in front reclined their seat.

This is someone's blog, not news, its an opinion.

And yes the thread time is hyperpole.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:18 pm

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 9):
SNCntry32 needs to learn the difference between MD90 and Deltas MD90s. Garbage thread title.
MD90s are fine when you don't cram too many rows into them, if you don't mind a little noise

So you could not conclude that when I said MD90 and MSP in the same sentence that I was talking about Deltas MD90's and not China Southrens MD90s?

Just curious.

And yes, this is one persons opinion. The seat pich sucks, I am 6 feet tall and have a terrible time on the plane. Using your laptop in full seat recline is much more difficult on the MD90 versus the airbus in my opinion...

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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:29 pm

Not everyone in MSP hates the MD 90!

I live in MSP, and I prefer the MD 90 to the 319 / 320, because of the five abreast seating configuration.

I'm 6'3", so my legs are uncomfortable no matter which aircraft I'm on. I'd rather be uncomfortable in an MD-90 window seat, than in an A320 middle seat!
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:32 pm

That looks like some tricky photography unless you're in an A320 exit row - there's no way a 1" difference in seat pitch is that dramatic.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:34 pm

The A319/A320 does have decent seat pitch. You'd know if it was the exit row, there has got to be liek 42" pitch in that row.

Although with the rumors of adding more seats to the A319, likely with slim lines, that may change in the future.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:38 pm

34" pitch on a Southwest 737 or JetBlue A320 vs. 30" or 31" on a Delta MD-90. At my 6'4" height the pitch is a HUGE deal and WN and B6 have a big competitive advantage for my flying dollar (not to mention the bag fees).

Fortunately, the aircraft that Delta regularly operates out of BDL (MD-88s and 737-800s) are outfitted a little more reasonably.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:59 pm

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 15):
34" pitch on a Southwest 737 or JetBlue A320 vs. 30" or 31" on a Delta MD-90. At my 6'4" height the pitch is a HUGE deal and WN and B6 have a big competitive advantage for my flying dollar (not to mention the bag fees).

I'm almost positive WN has 32" pitch, not 34". Still, it's perfectly comfortable for me, and I'm 6'2.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:13 pm

Quoting jsquared (Reply 13):
That looks like some tricky photography unless you're in an A320 exit row - there's no way a 1" difference in seat pitch is that dramatic.

No, that is the last row of an A320...
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:17 pm

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 17):
No, that is the last row of an A320...

Yep, and the exit row has even more, and yes one inch of pitch does make that much of difference, becaus pitch is related to the seat position, front to front.

I have to agree, I found my MD-90 flights some of the most uncomfortble and at 6'4" painful with the seat in front of me digging into my knees, and the person wasn't even reclining.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:21 pm

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 12):
I'm 6'3", so my legs are uncomfortable no matter which aircraft I'm on. I'd rather be uncomfortable in an MD-90 window seat, than in an A320 middle seat!

    

I think DL will push the boundaries. They will keep a finger on the pulse and measure customer feedback. If the complaints remain stable, nothing will happen. If there is an uproar and WN moves to town, you may see some changes.
It comes with the territory of the market that is MSP. It's a great place for DL and DL will do what the market will bear.
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:32 pm

Totally agree with that blogger. Upcoming PTVs won't help the space issues either. I'm no fan of the NW Airbus interior, but at least it had more room. I'd happily take them back.
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:38 pm

I don't understand why DL decided to cram in 160 seats.

Do the extra 10 seats justify (cost-wise) the extra FA?
 
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Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:47 pm

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 20):
Totally agree with that blogger.



I hate flying this plane. It is IMHO the worst plane for passenger comfort and convenience in the entire DL fleet. It is the CRJ200 of mainline.
 
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RE: Opinion On The MD90 Seat Pitch

Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:43 pm

I rode on one of the 160 seaters recently and I would imagine it would be tight if you were taller. I'm under 6' so it was passable for me. Nice ride though. Very quiet, even in the back.

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