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Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:27 am

I wonder what your opinions are on the greatest overkill on an airline route regularly operated?

I just traveled DOH-BAH (which great circle mapper places at 91 miles) in a QR 77W.

This route is utilising 0.01% of the aircraft's range potential, and the load factor was about 20%. I know that the aircraft may have been operating the route purely because it had nothing else to do during that time, but can you tell me of any similar route overkills you know of?
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:44 am

Was this flight some sort of a tag on route. That is usually the case especially with widebodies with very very short segments I any familliar with.

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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:38 am

Looking at their timetable, most flights on that route are operated by A319/20/21's and one RT operated with an A330. It sounds like the 77W was an aircraft substitution.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:03 am

Quoting msypi7185 (Reply 1):
Was this flight some sort of a tag on route.

Airplane substitutions usually explain these odd scenarios, excepting the tag-on the end of the main route sectors that some airlines fly (eg, United Airlines Sydney to Melbourne and back using Boeing 747-400).

The passengers must surely enjoy flying Sydney to Melbourne (or the reverse) on a B747-400. How could anyone not find that plenty of fun, just look at how it leaps off the runway.  

B777W must be pretty lively on DOH-BAH as well I'd guess.

Sometimes airlines will fly large planes on a route to position them elsewhere when needed - and that positioning flight might well be a route they can stick passengers on as well, rather than sending the plane empty.

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
but can you tell me of any similar route overkills you know of?

Paris to London and back with Air France on the A380.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:09 am

77W has a range of 910,000 miles?
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:15 am

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
the load factor was about 20%

But you don't know what the load factor in the belly was. That aircraft could have been full of cargo, and making a ton of money.

AC uses the 77L on YYZ-YVR. YYZ-YUL can see A333's, 77W, 77L......sometimes it is about positioning, or a tag on, but it could have been about cargo.

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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:19 am

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):

I just traveled DOH-BAH (which great circle mapper places at 91 miles) in a QR 77W.

Once flew GVA-ZRH in a SR 743.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:30 am

How about 16 daily flights LGA-PHL on US?
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:32 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 7):

Full of business passengers. I doubt this is overkill.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:32 am

Back in the 80s UA did things like that quite frequently:

747-200 SAN-LAX (110 miles) continued on to HNL I believe
DC-10 BWI-IAD (46 miles) that continued on to LAX
DC-10 OAK-SFO (11 miles) that continued on to somewhere in the east
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:45 am

Not nearly as overkill as some other examples. but the regular amount of DL widebodies on ATL-MCO/TPA comes to mind.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:59 am

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
I wonder what your opinions are on the greatest overkill on an airline route regularly operated?

How is any of it overkill if the planes are filled and profitable?
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:01 am

Quoting as739x (Reply 8):

I recall reading all those roundtrips are a way to hold slots at LGA.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:41 am

ATL-DTW is pretty well served. Even by a 77L sometimes. But these are needed for fleet placement
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:06 am

Quoting CODCA09 (Reply 9):
DC-10 BWI-IAD (46 miles) that continued on to LAX

Was this DC-10 scheduled service? I have flown BWI-IAD two or three times in the 80's, but it was on a Part 135 carrier. The UA fares BWI-LAX were insanely lower than IAD-LAX, and BWI-IAD-LAX was a permitted routing.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:47 am

As of May BNE-SYD will be served 4x weely with a 744 as the final leg of DFW-BNE-SYD (QF8) and is bookable to anybody. It's been many years since that route was servied by a 744 (previously attached as a leg of an LAX flight).
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:26 am

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
I just traveled DOH-BAH (which great circle mapper places at 91 miles) in a QR 77W.

This route is utilising 0.01% of the aircraft's range potential,

So, the range is 910,000 miles?!
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:35 am

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 15):

You've just got me tempted to do another fun across the ditch trip to catch a 744 on this domestic leg! Yes, I remember looking at timetables of QF25/26 doing SYD-BNE-AKL-LAX on some days..
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:11 am

due to the lack of any narrowbody aircraft in the EK fleet DXB-DOH, DXB-MCT, DXB-BAH see several widebodies daily.

EK 847 DXB 02:30 DOH 02:30 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 841 DXB 08:25 DOH 08:30 EQV 0 1234567 01:05 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 843 DXB 14:15 DOH 14:15 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 849 DXB 17:05 DOH 17:05 EQV 0 123-567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 845 DXB 22:15 DOH 22:15 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb

EK 866 DXB 02:55 MCT 03:55 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 862 DXB 08:30 MCT 09:30 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb

EK 835 DXB 02:30 BAH 02:45 EQV 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 837 DXB 08:30 BAH 08:45 332 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 839 DXB 16:30 BAH 16:45 EQV 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:14 am

UIO-GYE on A343 (and previously A346) which is 162 miles
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:25 am

I once flew 56 kilometres in an Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-62 from Moscow's Bykovo Airport to Sheremetyevo Airport on the other side of the city. AND the plane was almost full.

There were, as you might imagine, special reasons for such a short trans-Moscow flight in an Il-62.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:29 am

Avoiding the horrendous traffic ? 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:42 am

Once flew IAD to DCA in a Braniff 727. Flight originated in SAT, stopped and dropped off passengers at IAD and then continued to DCA. Strange trip, 20 NM.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:50 am

Quoting robso2 (Reply 19):
UIO-GYE on A343 (and previously A346) which is 162 miles

How is this "overkill" since IB operates the route as MAD-UIO-GYE-MAD?
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:14 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 18):
due to the lack of any narrowbody aircraft in the EK fleet DXB-DOH, DXB-MCT, DXB-BAH see several widebodies daily.

Yes, stylo, I too have seen EK widebodies in BAH.

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
I just traveled DOH-BAH (which great circle mapper places at 91 miles) in a QR 77W.

Other people are also citing examples..Like I remember in the olden days how UA had a DC10 going from Denver Stapleton to Colorado Springs (60 miles). That aside, I think this thread touches on an issue worthy of discussion---QR and EK have an abundance of capacity (EY less so).

Living in the UAE, I can personally vouch that it is a small country awash in airline capacity ( hubs for Etihad, EK, FlyDubai, and Air Arabia in addition to everyone else). But that is another topic.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:23 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 18):
due to the lack of any narrowbody aircraft in the EK fleet DXB-DOH, DXB-MCT, DXB-BAH see several widebodies daily.

EK 847 DXB 02:30 DOH 02:30 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 841 DXB 08:25 DOH 08:30 EQV 0 1234567 01:05 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 843 DXB 14:15 DOH 14:15 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 849 DXB 17:05 DOH 17:05 EQV 0 123-567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 845 DXB 22:15 DOH 22:15 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb

EK 866 DXB 02:55 MCT 03:55 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 862 DXB 08:30 MCT 09:30 EQV 0 1234567 01:00 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb

EK 835 DXB 02:30 BAH 02:45 EQV 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 837 DXB 08:30 BAH 08:45 332 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb
EK 839 DXB 16:30 BAH 16:45 EQV 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb

Don't mean to be disrespectful, but on what do you base your belief? In-depth analysis of passenger and freight demand, yields, and load factors? What about analysis of the number of online connection traffic verses local traffic? Or, as I suppose, is it based on nothing? It is not unreasonable to assume that if those services, most of which are operated by the 332 (with some variations), weren't commercially feasible, then frequencies would be cut or the service withdrawn entirely, as with NGO.

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 24):
due to the lack of any narrowbody aircraft in the EK fleet DXB-DOH, DXB-MCT, DXB-BAH see several widebodies daily.

Yes, stylo, I too have seen EK widebodies in BAH.

Hardly difficult when EK only have widebodies.  
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:31 pm

I was on a LH747 from DXB to AUH (as a tag on from FRA) with 4 pax in business and maybe 20 in economy.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:43 pm

I've seen some really silly comments in this thread!! Overkill is not necessarily "the biggest plane for the shortest route".
Why is the AF A380 to London overkill if the airline has a decent load and creates the chance for extensive crew training at the same time?

Why is a segment of a route MAD-GYE-UIO-MAD in a A343 overkill??
Is KL's GYE-UIO also overkill, in the MD-11?? It's part of a route, they can't even sell you a domestic ticket!!

Quoting ZKCIF (Reply 16):
So, the range is 910,000 miles?!
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:45 pm

I would consider OA opperating 747's and 340's to LHR from ATH "overkill".
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:06 pm

Controversial opinion - Greatest over kill/over capacity on earth is without doubt between London and New York.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:37 pm

Back in the 90's, UA flew a DC-10 DEN-COS-DEN. It was always the last flight of the day DEN-COS and then returned to DEN early the next morning. The rumor was that it was cheaper to fly the DC-10 practically empty to COS than park it overnight at DEN. Don't know if it the rumor was true and there is likely more to the story. Now the route is nothing but RJ's.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:40 pm

Quoting CODCA09 (Reply 9):

And in the 90's it was LAX-SAN on the DL L-1011. Some days I would commute outbound on a Skywest flight and come back on the L-1011.

Quoting elbandgeek (Reply 10):

Between ATL and TPA back in the day yes, 764 and 772 even, but not anymore. Biggest is a 752.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:59 pm

The Edinburgh - London market is fully served....not sure if its 'overkill' though as don't know loads etc but they also have a decent rail service (best journey time 4hr 43m from Central Edinburgh to Central London) which runs almost every hour.

BA x 8 to LHR / x 4 to LGW / x 5 to LCY
bmi x 6 to LHR
Cityjet x 2 to LCY
easyjet x 4 to LGW / x 3 to LTN / x 6 to STN
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:24 pm

Quoting robso2 (Reply 19):
EK 835 DXB 02:30 BAH 02:45 EQV 0 1234567 01:15 3 I 08 Feb 15 Feb

I've taken that flight last year, on a 773ER, with 22 other PAX. I couldn't believe it.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:36 pm

Quoting toneale (Reply 22):
Once flew IAD to DCA in a Braniff 727. Flight originated in SAT, stopped and dropped off passengers at IAD and then continued to DCA. Strange trip, 20 NM.

No wonder why Braniff went bankrupt...
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:42 pm

Not really overkill becuase it is reported to be full - FedEx operates the 757 between IAD and DCA every morning taking papers in and out of Washington DC. Sending a truck to the sorting facility would take too long!

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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:57 pm

During most of the 70s most Air California and many PSA flights out of OAK stopped in SJC. I did a SJC-OAK on PSA once in 11 minutes!

OAK-SJC-SNA....OAK-SJC-OAK-SJC-BUR, etc.

For awhile in the 80s, PSA operated every half hour between LAX and SFO. Dubbed "The PSA expressway".

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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:02 pm

Quoting ZKCIF (Reply 16):
So, the range is 910,000 miles?!
How many math teachers committed suicide because of you?

I've written an angry email to Casio telling them to fix their calculators!

Quoting msypi7185 (Reply 1):
Was this flight some sort of a tag on route.

No it was a proper route, not tag on or a/c positioning because I came back on the same plane right away (this happens a lot in the Middle East for visa-renewal).
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:21 pm

I would think that 25+ daily flights on WN from DAL to HOU is overkill.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:24 pm

We did EZE-MVD in a UA 767-300 but that was an add-on flight. It is 124nm.

My wife did FRA-HAM in a 747-400 but that was during the earliest days of the -400 and this was break-in flight.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:28 pm

Quoting CODCA09 (Reply 9):
DC-10 OAK-SFO (11 miles) that continued on to somewhere in the east

I'd like to see the cost benefit analysis on something like this. It is my understanding that while some required maintenance is based on time (which in this case would be quite low) others are based on cycles which this would contribute to significantly.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:55 pm

Quoting flylku (Reply 39):
We did EZE-MVD in a UA 767-300 but that was an add-on flight. It is 124nm.

AA still operates EZE-MVD-EZE with the B772 4x weekly during the Southern Winter (the routing is MIA-EZE-MVD-EZE-MIA).
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:02 pm

PER-DPS is basically at its peak, with 9-11 daily flights. Garuda, Air Asia, Jetstar, Pacific Blue & Strategic operate the route, with Batavia commencing a daily flight this year also.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:03 pm

Not sure if anyone else remembers this, but Malaysian used to fly a 772 to VIE via ZAG back in the mid/late 90s. Flew ZAG-VIE once and it was the coolest thing -- remember it like it was yesterday. GCM puts this at 165 miles; flying time was I believe approx. 25 min. or so, and I distinctly remember that plane was level for only a few minutes, and I don't believe we went higher than 24,000 ft. Plane was slightly less than half-full, give or take, and I haven't experienced a take-off like that since!!!

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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:07 pm

Quoting keagkid101 (Reply 38):
I would think that 25+ daily flights on WN from DAL to HOU is overkill

Hardly--it's a big business market, and the two airports are the closest to downtown. Driving can take anywhere between 3.5 to 5 hours, depending on traffic and rush hour---and there is no train service either.

PHL-LGA is probably the bigger waste, unless the flights are full--I would imagine the O&D on those flights to be next to nothing, considering how frequent and convenient train service is.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:07 pm

Quoting Tolosy (Reply 34):
Quoting toneale (Reply 22):
Once flew IAD to DCA in a Braniff 727. Flight originated in SAT, stopped and dropped off passengers at IAD and then continued to DCA. Strange trip, 20 NM.

No wonder why Braniff went bankrupt...

This trip existed soley because of the perimeter rule at DCA, which is being discussed in another thread.

AA used to fly DCA-IAD-DFW, until DCA's perimeter was enlarged to allow DCA-DFW nonstops.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:23 pm

Sometimes, "overkill" is a result of pricing.

The frequent air service between MAD and BCN, with plenty of quality train service between the two Spanish cities may seem like overkill, but with the competition among at least four airlines on that route, flying is usually much cheaper than taking the train. And, yes, those planes are usually packed.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:30 pm

Sometimes Airlines fly different planes on short haul for pilot training purposes.
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:32 pm

DL is starting 5x daily ATL-DAB on 757s in the next few weeks. Even for Daytona's "high season," this seems like overkill.
 
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RE: Greatest 'overkill' On A Route

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:45 pm

Several years ago I flew an Air Pacific (FIJI) 747-400 from Nadi to Sydney.
Only 40 people of so but they were basically deadheading to pick up app. 400
students coming home from some deal or other. Fun experience to choose your
seat and move around any time you felt like it.

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