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Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:50 pm

I am potentially moving from the United States to Singapore. However, we have a dog that is a big part of our family. Is there anyone here who has used an international pet moving service and would recommend it (or airline that does a great job with this?) I have looked through the Singapore Airlines website and they do not allow animals on their A340-500s or A380s. In addition, if you are traveling from Australian, NZ, UK and USA, they recommend using a pet moving company.
 
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:01 pm

I know Lufthansa is pretty good but there are certain procedures to follow - pet's passport, vaccinations, special cage but the cats arrived safely from the US to Eastern Europe - they did travel with the owner though.
 
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:17 pm

DO NOT DO IT. Seriously, in my 15yrs working around commercial aviation, that is the one thing that p&^%$%^es me off to no end. Animals stress out really bad, get handled by people that have no care or concerns for other peoples belongings and I could go on and on.............I have seen way to many bad things happen. Just the noises of the ramp and transfer, not to mention the long rides in the a/c are enough to give any animal a heart attack or something similar. I hope you consider all the options-remember and remember, by owning a pet you are taking on the responsibility of caring for that pet-it depends on you!!! Good Luck!!
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:20 pm

It is a tough decision. We have moved our cats from SAN to ATL and CO really takes good care of animals. But US-SIN that is another story. I would really shop around. You may also want to check with the AKC or even ASPCA to see if they have suggestions. You know they would have a reliable source. Good luck!
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Quoting tu154m (Reply 2):
DO NOT DO IT

I'm inclined to agree here. I always made sure to take excellent care of animals when I worked on the ramp, and most of my co-workers did too, but there were a few things I saw that made me vow to never put my dog on a plane. Nevermind they're just always scared to death.
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:04 am

I would never want to put my dog through the stress of air travel, unless in the cabin with me. If your dog is small enough, you might be able to bring it on-board. But it can not be released, so it will in a pet crate for a long time.

However, having a dog myself, and knowing I would never leave her behind if we moved (especially my mother, she would stay put and never leave if it meant leaving the dog).

A few links I ahve found that will hopefully help:

http://www.jet-a-pet.com/
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/airport/baggage/pets.html (AC would get you from the US as far as HKG or SYD, from there it would have to be SQ).
http://www.aircanada.com/cargo/en/solutions/ac_live/index.html

I am sure many of the US legacies have similar options, but I am more familiar with the AC site.

Best of luck if you need to move!

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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:18 am

You know SOMEONE had to bring this one up LOL!   

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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:58 pm

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 6):
You know SOMEONE had to bring this one up LOL!

Except that Pet Airways specifically says they do not operate internationally, so it doesn't help the OP.
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:04 pm

Hi!!!

With the knowledge that I am gonna get FLAMMED by a lot of folks, I would suggest you use LH.

I have a dog that travels with me at least 3 times a year in the aircraft hold. My dog is in an IATA crate number 3 which is restricted to the aircraft type/Hold door demensions.

I know it is stressful, but since I do not need him as a "service" animal, I have to opt for the hold.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know all about the horror stories, but being a ramp agent and ops agent for more than 17 years I know what to expect. I make sure that the Dog + Crate are loaded and well sucured in the hold before I take my seat. The aircrew are very understanding of this, and if it is not the case, I tell them I will not travel without the Dog being with me.

I always make a point to let the operating crew know 100% that my dog is in the hold and to take the necessary precautions....better safe than sorry.

And, LH has wonderful transit areas for animals in FRA and MUC.

Of course if I could take my 30KG chocolate lab in the cabin, I would never put him in the hold.

my    . GOOD luck to you and your move especially your pet!!
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:02 pm

Quoting PITingres (Reply 7):
Except that Pet Airways specifically says they do not operate internationally, so it doesn't help the OP.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? It was a bloody joke.

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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:47 am

Quoting chootie (Reply 8):
I always make a point to let the operating crew know 100% that my dog is in the hold and to take the necessary precautions....better safe than sorry.

Live cargo is always included in our final load information. And, on some aircraft where it is loaded.

It doesn't really change our operating procedures, other than it does provide an answer if the passengers above deck hear the dog crying or barking below deck. We do however, just before push-back, check with the ramp crew to confirm the animal was boarded, just in case the passenger asks ... a reasonable request.
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:09 pm

Take a Japanese airline (NH, JL) via NRT to SIN. The Japanese are known for very good treatment and 'service' and reliable.
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RE: Shipping A Dog. Who Is Best?

Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:23 pm

I have shipped my two personal dogs three times due to moves and my work dog countless times for work. I usually do not have any control over which carriers I fly. I have shipped dogs on UA, DL, LH and KL. I also shipped my two dogs with a pet shipper in FRA once, but I don't remember the name and it doesn't look like it will help the OP anyway. I have never had a problem on any carriers. DL, UA and LH have also let my 100 lb dog ride in the seat next to me, but those were my work dog and the crate wouldn't fit through the cargo door. My only experience flying a dog to Asia was on KLM to Jakarta and they were exceptional.
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