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Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:26 am

After the useful information and ideas that were shared in similar threads in 2009 & 2010, I thought I would start a new thread for 2011, even though we are already in March.

To carry on from some of the aircraft types we discussed last year, lets start with the current status of those:

IL-62M
- Deta Air IL-62M Combi UP-I6209 converted to freighter from end Dec 2010. Flown by myself, Loran & xv105 in Dec 2010. Replaced on the SAW-CIT route by a B737-500
- Forty Eight States Aviation (Sudan) IL-62M ST-OHO ceased flying Jan 2011 according to a reliable contact at Khartoum Airport
- Cubana's last IL-62M CU-T1284 stored Mar 2011, shortly after CU-T1280
No apparent remaining options.

IL-86
- Atlant Soyuz/Moscow Airline ceased operations
- Donavia IL-86 seen at DXB around Dec 2010/Jan 2011 - possibly operating for Aeroflot due capacity? Last remaining pax operator. No news yet on summer charter operations.

B707-320C
- Saha Air still operating EP-SHG & EP-SHV on daily THR-KIH & THR-MHD flights. No news on retirement or A300-600 operations.

DC-9
- East African Safari Air Express operating some flights for fly540 using 1966-built DC9-14, 5Y-XXA, line no. 19. Operates NBO-KIS-EDL-NBO on wednesdays. It is possible to book NBO-EDL & EDL-NBO and make short connection in EDL. Just tell the crew and ground staff when disembarking. Also operates evening flights to Entebbe as well as substituting for fly540 aircraft where capcity is needed.

F-28
- Biman still operating F-28 4000 but only domestically. No longer operating to KTM or CCU.
- East African Safari Air Express operating some flights for fly540 using F-28 4000, 5Y-XXA.
- Jetlink Kenya operating one F-28 4000 but the only scheduled route appears to be to Juba, Sudan.
- LADE (Argentina) still operating early F-28 1000 variant.

HS748
- Air North still operating HS748 in Yukon.
- 3 operators in Kenya, but possibly all Cargo.

Nord 262
- Malu Aviation using N262 twice a week from Goma to Kisingani. Adventurous option since no photography is allowed in the Democratic Republic of Congo and visa can (sometimes) issued at land border from Rwanda. Travel within DRC without 'protocol' escort not reccomended.

DHC-7
- Air Kenya using on several days for morning flight from Nairobi Wilson Airport to Masai Mara.


All contributions and updates appreciated.

[Edited 2011-03-11 03:30:03]
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:32 pm

Good thread, I was referring to the last one like this only the other day.

As for the IL-62's I can offer input only for JS.. They appear to have been put on replacement duty now for when the new Tupolevs break down. So unfortunately the main planes from PEK-FNJ are now the TU-204's  

However, there are seemingly frequent appearances of the Tu-134's at Vladivostok and Shenyang.

God I regret leaving it so long to go to North Korea, I think I've missed the final chance to get an Ilyushin now...

I could have sworn that I heard someone on here say that the 707's were retired last year, but I guess they're still soldiering on (somehow!)  

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Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:41 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
B707-320C
- Saha Air still operating EP-SHG & EP-SHV on daily THR-KIH & THR-MHD flights. No news on retirement or A300-600 operations.

Excellent, may it stay that way until at least July!

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
- LADE (Argentina) still operating early F-28 1000 variant.

A Combi, at that. Schedules are only published a month or so in advance, and whilst online booking is possible, you will probably have to phone LADE to make payment.

Quoting SirThomas (Reply 1):
I could have sworn that I heard someone on here say that the 707's were retired last year, but I guess they're still soldiering on (somehow!)

Their retirement has been announced half a dozen times it seems, but as you say they keep on going.


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:03 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
- Donavia IL-86 seen at DXB around Dec 2010/Jan 2011 - possibly operating for Aeroflot due capacity? Last remaining pax operator. No news yet on summer charter operations.

Donavia operated also flights to CMB in December/January.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:24 pm

There's Severstal Aircompany with Yak40 flights from Cherepovets to e.g. Moscow and Helsinki (see TR by Loran, Yak-40 Severstal Aircompany D2-16/21: VKO-CEE-LED (by Loran Nov 13 2010 in Trip Reports)). I just checked their website, services seem to be operating. Can anyone from HEL confirm that the Yaks actually fly there?
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:30 am

Quoting HAM (Reply 4):
There's Severstal Aircompany with Yak40 flights from Cherepovets to e.g. Moscow and Helsinki (see TR by Loran, Yak-40 Severstal Aircompany D2-16/21: VKO-CEE-LED (by Loran Nov 13 2010 in Trip Reports)). I just checked their website, services seem to be operating. Can anyone from HEL confirm that the Yaks actually fly there?

SyrianAir also still fly their Yaks-40s to several destinations, and it seems they also are still flying their Tu-134B. This is according to timetables, sightings, and RB themselves, but further info would be appreciated as I'm planning on heading there a few months.


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:03 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
SyrianAir also still fly their Yaks-40s to several destinations, and it seems they also are still flying their Tu-134B. This is according to timetables, sightings, and RB themselves, but further info would be appreciated as I'm planning on heading there a few months.

The YAK-40s are still shown as operating the flights to LTK.

The Tu-134 used to operate all flights to KAC and certain flights to ALP, but I haven't seen any TU3 flights in GDS for a few months. It seems the ATRs have taken over. I will check with some Syrian colleagues to find out what the status if the TU3 is, but I doubt it is active unless as a backup aircraft.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:34 am

What's the safest bet for a Tu-134 in the Moscow / St. Petersburg region? I mean an airline which doesn't do frequent equipment changes to something boring? UTair comes to mind as an operator of that type and I think online booking is possible, too, but they are receiving more and more western aircraft, right?

I'm thinking about a trip to that area to combine the Severstal Yak-40 with some Tu-134. Some An-24s would be great, too.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:41 am

Hi,


does anybody know if Daallo is still operating their IL-18s? Seems like their website wasn't updated for a year...


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:51 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 6):
The YAK-40s are still shown as operating the flights to LTK.

The Tu-134 used to operate all flights to KAC and certain flights to ALP, but I haven't seen any TU3 flights in GDS for a few months. It seems the ATRs have taken over. I will check with some Syrian colleagues to find out what the status if the TU3 is, but I doubt it is active unless as a backup aircraft.

LTK and another one or two destinations when I last checked. I think as we come towards the summer they will press the TU3 back into active service due to the increasing traffic levels and limited aircraft. Might as well use what they've got.

Quoting HAM (Reply 7):
What's the safest bet for a Tu-134 in the Moscow / St. Petersburg region? I mean an airline which doesn't do frequent equipment changes to something boring? UTair comes to mind as an operator of that type and I think online booking is possible, too, but they are receiving more and more western aircraft, right?

LED-SCW was a safe bet when I was there this time last year, and at VKO there are still many TU3s operating. There were also some An-24B variants still flying for UTair. I found the cheapest place to book online was eBookers, as UTair's own site was shockingly bad, I'm not sure if they have updated it yet though?


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:50 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
DHC-7

GL still has a few of these buzzing around. I've currently got 4 flights booked on them!
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Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:04 pm

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 8):
does anybody know if Daallo is still operating their IL-18s? Seems like their website wasn't updated for a year...

If they are, it is only on the flights from JIB into Somaliland & Somalia. Their website timetable function hasn't been functional for at least 18 months. They also do not respond to e-mail enquiries. Some airlines just don't deserve customers.
 
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Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:00 am

Hellenic Imperial Airways should soon announce a bunch of scheduled flights for this summer with their 747-200s. The US is suggested, but you never know with this outfit. They have been promoting themselves to travel agents a lot recently, and have a decent reservations system supposedly about to go live, which would suggest they have thrown some money at the venture and might genuinely be trying to fill the void OA left. Scheduled flights, but presumably a lot of seats sold to charter organisations too.

After all the Libyan repatriation flights they've been flying in the past few weeks, they should have a decent amount of cash on hand too. Would be great to see a 747-200 back flying Transatlantic.


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:57 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
Saha Air still operating EP-SHG & EP-SHV on daily THR-KIH & THR-MHD flights. No news on retirement or A300-600 operations.

I flew on both 4 weeks ago ! I chatted with their pilots and they said they would switch to an Airbus when they get their 3rd from China Eastern.
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Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:11 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
DC-9

While it's certainly not a -10 series, it's not too difficult to go on a -50 series built here in the USA. Delta has a good number of them and they fly every day all over the country, but especially out of Detroit.

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Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:26 pm

This really makes me feel old!

I have flown on all of the aircraft in the thread starter's list except the IL-62M and the IL-86.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:20 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):

Hey Dan !

You're quite right with the gen on Hellenic Imperial starting routes to The States in June/July. However, I've heard they're looking at some sort of fleet replacement so don''t know if we're gonna get chance to fly their B742s on these routes (if, given Hellenic's track record, they actually go into operation at all)..... which is a real shame after the Athens-Birmingham flights fell through after only a couple of weeks  Lets hope not anyway as I'd love a blast on one of these beauties.

Great thread Ian by the way, lets keep this one going as I'm always keen to hear what real, smokey aircraft are still plying their trade out there !

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:22 am

Still missing the IL-86 and HS-748...

Good to know Air North still do operate a few 748's around...see on their website, they offer a great Arctic Circle Air Pass (together with Canadian North), which include 748 routes...

Having said that, the current Airliner World issue has a great article about Air North as well...
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:30 pm

Just to update on the JS Fleet: The Il-62's are now only on backup duty for peak season when the other flights are full and will no longer run International services  

Tu-154's will be retired and put into storage whereas the Il-62 I have been told will take over DOMESTIC services...
God knows why, strange AC for internal flights IMO!

Tu-134's will still operate internally and internationally according to demand.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:45 am

I've recently found out that Daallo Airlines are indeed still operating the IL-18, twice a week from Hargeisa to Djibouti as well as a weekly flight from Hargeisa to Jeddah.

According to the schedule I was given, it is actually possible to fly JED-HGA-JIB on a wednesday, with a 7 hour wait in HGA. 2 hours later there is a Daallo B737-200 flight to DXB so the whole trip including 2 IL-18 flights could be done in a very short time.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:12 am

This is really interesting stuff Ian, what routes to Daallo operate with B732s....? I've never heard of these !
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:55 pm

As per the person from Daallo Airlines I managed to speak to, the IL-18 operates the following:

Hargeisa-Jeddah Tue 1900/2200
Jeddah-Hargeisa Wed 0400/0700

Hargeisa-Djibouti Mon 0700/0745
Djibouti-Hargeisa Mon 0845/0930

Hargeisa-Djibouti Wed 1400/1445
Djibouti-Hargeisa Thu 0730/0815

Quoting xv105 (Reply 20):
This is really interesting stuff Ian, what routes to Daallo operate with B732s....?

Apparently the 737 operates the following:

Djibouti-Dubai Wed 1630/2100
Dubai-Djibouti Thu 0300/0530

Djibouti-Berbera Sun 1500/1545
Berbera-Djibouti Sun 1630/2100

Dubai-Berbera Mon 0300/0530
Berbera-Djibouti Mon 0600/0645
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:57 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):

How did I overlook this topic for over two weeks?   
Thanks Ian for starting this helpful topic for 2011.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
- Saha Air still operating EP-SHG & EP-SHV on daily THR-KIH & THR-MHD flights. No news on retirement or A300-600 operations.
Quoting SirThomas (Reply 1):
I could have sworn that I heard someone on here say that the 707's were retired last year, but I guess they're still soldiering on (somehow!)

Didn't Shary just mention they will await the same fate as the entire Iranian Tu-154 fleet a few weeks back, being banned shortly by the government?

Quoting HAM (Reply 4):
I just checked their website, services seem to be operating. Can anyone from HEL confirm that the Yaks actually fly there?

I didn't believe it myself until I saw the flight actually departing to and returning from HEL while I was in CEE. I would trust this service still operates. As I suggested in my trip report you can fly HEL-PES-CEE-VKO in one day and log two Yak-40 regs on three sectors. If I had known this before I would have booked this route.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
SyrianAir also still fly their Yaks-40s to several destinations, and it seems they also are still flying their Tu-134B. This is according to timetables, sightings, and RB themselves, but further info would be appreciated as I'm planning on heading there a few months.

This will get even more interesting if the rumor comes true that they re-activate their 747SPs this year. Count me in.

Quoting HAM (Reply 7):
What's the safest bet for a Tu-134 in the Moscow / St. Petersburg region? I mean an airline which doesn't do frequent equipment changes to something boring? UTair comes to mind as an operator of that type and I think online booking is possible, too, but they are receiving more and more western aircraft, right?

Definitely UTair from my point of view. I flew one of their Tu-134A-3s in September 2010, and it was great. Although they operate plenty of different types, I think you are quite safe if you book two different flights on them. You have to use their German booking page: http://utair.de/ . The English / Russian doesn't work for bookings. I booked online LED-KGD-VKO on the Tu-134 and 737-500(WL), worked perfectly fine. The page also lists equipment types.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
Hellenic Imperial Airways should soon announce a bunch of scheduled flights for this summer with their 747-200s

I am also waiting for their comeback. Ideally in combination with Baltia Airlines....

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 14):
While it's certainly not a -10 series, it's not too difficult to go on a -50 series built here in the USA

Hi KingFriday013, it is indeed a DC-9-14 series, line Nr.19! X-ray Alpha in all its beauty:


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Quoting SirThomas (Reply 18):
Tu-154's will be retired and put into storage whereas the Il-62 I have been told will take over DOMESTIC services...
God knows why, strange AC for internal flights IMO!

Wow, having seen two of their domestic airports (other than FNJ), I must say it is surely impossible to operate a Il-62 out of these. They are in terrible condition.

To me, the following types are on the list this year:
DHC-7
HS-748
DC-9-10/-30/-50
MD-81
BAe ATP
RJ-70
747-400D
F-27
EMB-110
747-200B (both, CF-6 and JT9D powered if Hellenic Imperial and Baltia Airlines start services)

Last but not least I'd pay a fortune to get on a DC-8, L-1011 and 727-100 flight.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:33 am

Quoting Loran (Reply 22):
This will get even more interesting if the rumor comes true that they re-activate their 747SPs this year. Count me in.

Here's to hoping for a (relatively) bloodless revolution similar to Egypt, as it seems almost inevitable there now.


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Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:03 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 23):
Last but not least I'd pay a fortune to get on a DC-8, L-1011 and 727-100 flight.

Me too
 
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:12 pm

Here are some very important news (from Skyliner Aviation), thanks to Bernie for forwarding the important news:

Type: L-1011-500
c/n:1242
Reg: HR-AVN
Airline: Rollins Air
Remarks: ferried / in svc 26/27mar11 LCE-BUD-SNN-LCE after storage

Looks like this beauty is back:

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Any info what the plans behind this re-activation are?

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 23):
Here's to hoping for a (relatively) bloodless revolution similar to Egypt, as it seems almost inevitable there now.

In addition to a bloodless revolution, I hope it will - different to Libya - be an air-raid-free revolution to save the SP:
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:39 pm

You can find plenty of original DHC-2's in Alaska doing air taxi and charter services
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:58 am

Quoting Loran (Reply 25):
Remarks: ferried / in svc 26/27mar11 LCE-BUD-SNN-LCE after storage

Slightly confused by that route. Where is it supposed to be now? Back in LCE?
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:00 am

As discussed earlier....(and hardly suprising), the planned Hellenic Imperial expansion doesn't appear to involve their B742s....... latest update from their website below ;



Hellenic Imperial Airways adds more aircraft to its fleet. (26/3/2011)
In view of the upcoming scheduled operations to several destinations starting from June 2011, Hellenic Imperial Airways is pleased to announce that two Airbus Aircraft A321-200 are joining its fleet with effect of June 2011, while the company is in the process of adding in its fleet more Aircraft of Airbus A340-300 in June 2011.

The A321-200 have been selected to serve the short-medium haul flights and whereas the A340-300 will cover the long haul flights starting with New York in June 2011 followed by Canada, Bangkok, Melbourne…. etc.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:42 am

Quoting Loran (Reply 22):
747-200B

Transaero is operating the 747-200B as well, it had not long ago some major bird strike in the Caribbean and was repaired in the US. It returned on Sunday back at DME and is now in the custom clearance area according my source. VQ-BQC is however supposed to be converted into a freighter in the not far away future.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:35 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 27):
Slightly confused by that route. Where is it supposed to be now? Back in LCE?

No idea what it did in BUD, I guess SNN was just a fuel stop on the west-bound route. Surprisingly many ATA L-1011s stopped in BUD on their way between the US and middle East, so I suppose BUD must have some L-1011 maintenance capabilities. There are two videos on YouTube from Saturday 26.03.2011 where you can see HR-AVN arriving into BUD.

Quoting xv105 (Reply 28):
the planned Hellenic Imperial expansion doesn't appear to involve their B742s

Too bad, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use the 742 occasionally to sub an A340.

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 29):
Transaero is operating the 747-200B as well

Correct, they have four in service. I flew SVO-BKK-SVO on VP-BQH (742) and VP-BGU (743) about 6 weeks ago, thats why I didn't mention UN in my post   .

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:14 pm

I'll be going to the Bahamas in fall 2011. In the Airline Route Mapper it says that there are still flights operated by ATPs, but I can't find any more info on this. Is this true?
My other question is: what other interesting equipment can one catch on inter-island flights in the Bahamas? I see there are Beech 99 flights out there, not rare or anything, still I've never been on one and I'll sure fly on one.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:36 pm

Found that the best bet for a ride on the Bae ATP was Nextjet in Sweden.
Believe they fly a ARN-LYC-ARJ-ARN routing or v.v several days a week...
If you email them & let them now your reason for taking the trip ..ie Aircraft nut, they'l give you a good deal.
Think i paid around 500 SEK for the whole trip.
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:08 pm

Quoting Loran (Reply 30):
Therefore I am looking forward to Baltia Air Lines starting ops.

Well, aren't we all for 21 years already?   
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:30 pm

Quoting Loran (Reply 25):
Any info what the plans behind this re-activation are?

Not many news but lets keep this topic alive.

On Friday Rollins Air was supposed to fly some pax to Europe on their L-1011 but the aircraft went tech due to a navigation system failure and now an Alitalia plane will likely take over this task.

Even the locals in Honduras do not know much about Rollins Air's plans but I follow it as much as possible to spot scheduled flights if they ever materialize.

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 32):
Found that the best bet for a ride on the Bae ATP was Nextjet in Sweden.
Believe they fly a ARN-LYC-ARJ-ARN routing or v.v several days a week...
If you email them & let them now your reason for taking the trip ..ie Aircraft nut, they'l give you a good deal.
Think i paid around 500 SEK for the whole trip.

This is high on my list, just need to combine it with the RJ-70 from Malmo Aviation, which is difficult to catch.

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 33):
Well, aren't we all for 21 years already?

A true success story indeed. I am only optimistic because they actually managed to ferry their aircraft out of storage which didn't happen for 21 years. And aircraft #2 is also in heavy maintenance at the moment, keep your fingers crossed   .

One question, I bought this book which I thought may have some previously unknown recommendations on how to get on aircraft missing on my list:

http://www.destinworld.co.uk/product...-page/aviation/last-chance-to-fly/

Besides Biman it says to my surprise that Ghana Airways may restart ops and may be using DC-10s in the near future. Is this a rumor or has anyone heard about this?

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:41 pm

@Loran

Do you know which routes the RJ70 mainly operates? I'm in Sweden soon to catch the ATP up to Arvidsjaur so that may be a nice addition!

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:52 pm

I just checked and we may be too late.

Airfleets says: 01/03/2010 / Malmo Aviation / SE-DJP / Std At Mmx Since 04/02/2011

I should have gone in January when I had the chance....
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:56 pm

Hmm that's bad... The 3 MDLR RJ70s are stored in Delhi right now, so it seems the last opportunity is gone now.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:46 am

Quoting Loran (Reply 34):
Besides Biman it says to my surprise that Ghana Airways may restart ops and may be using DC-10s in the near future. Is this a rumor or has anyone heard about this?

Don't hold your breath, all former Ghana DC-10s are now very derelict, it will be very difficult for them to restart with DC-10s, if I were them I'd try it with a 767, maybe a Portuguese wetlease or so.
Actually I also ordered the book, while there were some inspiring things in it I saw many mistakes and outdated info too... They are way too optimistic about Tristars, F-27s and F-28s, they mention many airlines which withdrew them years ago. Does anyone have the email of the author, then I can mail him a list of updates.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 31):
I'll be going to the Bahamas in fall 2011. In the Airline Route Mapper it says that there are still flights operated by ATPs, but I can't find any more info on this. Is this true?

There are no ATPs in the America's for more then 12 years.... Maybe a typo for ATR ?
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:16 pm

Quoting Loran (Reply 34):
One question, I bought this book which I thought may have some previously unknown recommendations on how to get on aircraft missing on my list:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 38):
Actually I also ordered the book, while there were some inspiring things in it I saw many mistakes and outdated info too...

I can not understand why one would look for this kind of information in a book. Flying on rare airliners that are about to be retired are such a time-sensitive topic, these threads on A.net are the perfect information source on this topic, everybody shares their little up-to-date bit of information so we can get the full picture, but a book, wouldn't it already be outdated before it goes to the press?

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:55 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 39):
I can not understand why one would look for this kind of information in a book. Flying on rare airliners that are about to be retired are such a time-sensitive topic, these threads on A.net are the perfect information source on this topic, everybody shares their little up-to-date bit of information so we can get the full picture, but a book, wouldn't it already be outdated before it goes to the press?

Hi Soren, I had the same opinion about a book, however this particular one caught my attention as it apparently had info about types which are gone since years and missing in my list such as the DC-8, YS-11, F-27, etc. Since it was a bargain and a recent release (March 2011), I thought why not buy it.

Now after having read through it I am a bit disappointed. Not only that some info is not accurate as of March, it also doesn't really provide more info than listing the current operators and if it is charter or scheduled. I was more hoping for stuff like "go to this place, contact this person", etc. For example for the DC-8 it simply says "ATI operates military charters between USA, Europe and Middle East and is difficult to fly with". Any online fleet list will basically provide you the same information.

You are right that this topic will eventually be a more accurate source of information, depending on all our inputs.

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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:13 am

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 35):
Do you know which routes the RJ70 mainly operates?

If not successful for a Swedish domestic flight, you might as well try Cityjet on AMS-LCY, which is also operate by the RJ70  
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:13 am

Quoting MH017 (Reply 41):
If not successful for a Swedish domestic flight, you might as well try Cityjet on AMS-LCY, which is also operate by the RJ70

They only have RJ-85s I'm afraid. I am quite surprised that whilst the BAe-146-100 continues to operate, the newer RJ-70 is now gone, only for now hopefully.


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:32 pm

The Only RJ70 flight I managed was ironically ARN - LCY, operated for SK by...? Transwede ...? or someone similar, albeit with an Irish registration , EI-COQ.

Believe this is now the ex Malmo Aviation aircraft that is at MMX.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:33 pm

Going right back in time to preserved aircraft still in service, Classic Flight have several dates this month for pleasure flights from CVT in their Prentice and Rapides. Nothing too abnormal here, except that these flights cost £47 each, not the normal £75 odd, which could make a difference for somebody who just wants to log the type, even on a short flight. I'm hoping to go up for one day to get both.

http://www.classicflight.com/


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:44 am

For logging the AN-2 on a scheduled flight, there is Hanseflug's twice-daily return GWT-Föhr flight in northern Germany. They operate from May to September, and a flight is 70€ one way. I'm thinking about going for it this year.
 
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:05 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 44):
Going right back in time to preserved aircraft still in service, Classic Flight have several dates this month for pleasure flights from CVT in their Prentice and Rapides
Quoting HAM (Reply 45):
I'm thinking about going for it this year.

I've had the pleasure to fly on both the DH-89 and the AN-2. (ClassicWings UK for the Rapide, and ClassicWings Netherlands for the AN-2)

Both are very awesome aircraft and you will definitely not regret flying on them!
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Berjaya Air (Malaysia) still flies the Dash-7 next to their new ATR-72´s.
(would expect the Dash-7 remains in service for some time as the ATR´s won´t be able to operate into Tioman Island)

I will fly the Zest Air MA-60 in october (just to be "safe" in case the Philippine CAAP really enforces a grounding at the end of the year ...)
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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:18 pm

Quoting MHG (Reply 47):
Berjaya Air (Malaysia) still flies the Dash-7 next to their new ATR-72´s.
(would expect the Dash-7 remains in service for some time as the ATR´s won´t be able to operate into Tioman Island)

Is that definite? I'm just wondering because Cebu Pacific use the type to fly into Caticlan which has a shorter runway. If it is definite then I'll see if I can fly them later this year - I believe they use ex BA machines?


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RE: Flying Classic/Rare Aircraft In 2011

Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:14 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 48):
Is that definite? I'm just wondering because Cebu Pacific use the type to fly into Caticlan which has a shorter runway. If it is definite then I'll see if I can fly them later this year - I believe they use ex BA machines?

They only have 1 ATR-72 so far, it seems they have delayed further deliveries because they can't finance them, that's why it also took them so long to get the first one delivered. So that means we can see the DHC-7 for a while yet. Another nice route is Subang to Koh Samui, taking more then 2 hours, so far also scheduled as a DHC-7.
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