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Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Fri May 20, 2011 10:57 pm

I was on an AA flight TPA-DFW a couple of years ago and the plane was brand new with that awesome new-plane smell. However, some of the passengers must've complained and the F/As turned up the AC to satisfy them. I wasn't bothered by it. Would you be? Has this happened before or something similar with smells in the cabin?
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Fri May 20, 2011 11:14 pm

Sure, but that's anything that uses synthetic materials or new leather. The one that stands out the most in my mind was the Turkmenistan B717 I saw delivered in 2004 and the USA A330 I flew to Paris earlier this year. Both smelled heavily of "new plane smell." In a car, if I'm not driving, and on a windy road, it can make me nauseous.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Fri May 20, 2011 11:31 pm

Want a new plane smell? Visit the Boeing factory in Mukilteo - it's quite unique  
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 12:35 am

I love the new plane smell before the stench of the passengers drowns it after a few flights. It's amazing how quickly the smell goes.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 12:50 am

If it's the same as "new car smell", often is it chemical fumes coming out of the plastic. Not only is it bad for you, many people (myself included) find it nauseating.

I rode in a friend's new Ford Expedition once, about 10 years ago, and both me and the front seat passenger felt ill, and he vomited.

I recall my parents new Mitsubishi in the 80's smelling the same.

I steer completely clear of some marques due to the plastic types they choose to use inside cars.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 2:35 am

I recall how strong the "new plane smell" when I boarded VARIG'S first new 777 only days after getting her. I loved it. It is like a new car smell but it is a bit different than a car. I once read an article, 5 or more years ago (and I once started a thread about years ago too... But I read that SINGAPORE AIRLINES created a signature, proprietary fragrance, very light - near undetectable - that would help differentiate a ride on SQ than any other airline. I don't know if it's true as many here disputed it, but I know what I read! And frankly I believe it is an awesome idea. (so long as it is very, very light) I also think the new United should copy SQ so all airplanes in their fleet have a United smell and be one more thing to tie the 2 fleets together. I am sure IFF could come up with "Rhapsody in blue" fragrance.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 2:44 am

In my opinion, it's not quite the same as the new car smell. Unlike the new car small, the new plane smell is quite pleasant, perhaps the air-conditioning/ventilation in the cabin also helped.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 3:44 am

Quoting je89_w (Reply 6):

I see you are from Singapore! Hello. I will be there next month, one of my favorite cities! As I mentioned above, have you noticed a unique smell on SQ? I fly United most often and with the new seats (and I am lucky that my company will put me in F, the gap between SQ and UA is not so bad. UA did a decent job on the new seats! But I find UA has a unique fragrance on board vs other airlines like AA or CO. but I think it comes from the cleaning solvents and carpet shampoo they use versus an intentionally created smell. It isn't offensive but blind folded I would know I was on a UA 747 in a snap. BEFORE the flight only, not after it's filled with 300 people and 50 mini chicken breasts cooking!
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 4:10 am

I was on one of NZ's new 777-300s a couple of months ago just a few days after it went into service. The smell was great. I've also been on some of WN's new 737s but they weren't nearly as nice. Something about the J class seats on NZ, I think. Or maybe something about WN's passengers. Take your pick.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 4:43 am

I've always said that "new airplane smell" smells a LOT more expensive than "new car smell".  

That said, not all new aircraft smell the same. The brand new 737-700 I once experienced at WS smelled exactly the same as any new car, but the brand new Challenger 605 that I recently got a look in smelled nothing like that at all; it smelled of rich, buttery leather and not much else.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 4:49 am

I only ever smelled it once, on boarding an LH 320 flight DUS-LHR. It was confirmed during taxi when the Captain said that the plane had been put into service that morning.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 6:15 am

It's much like a "new car" smell each time we take delivery of a new aircraft. It's a wide range of smells from the leather, carpet to all the plastics.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 11:17 am

The nicest New Plane smell I experienced was when I flew on the brand new G-EUYE with BA. The smell of new BA euro leather seats mixed with a brand new A320 is just the nicest. 
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 11:39 am

It's always a pleasure to experience the "new plane smell". My all-time favorite:

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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 12:11 pm

I too love the new plane smell and seeing a plane that is not scruffed up by passengers. Also, watching the amazing new technology for me.

For me, this was on Berlin SXF-Oslo flight on Norwegian Air Shuttle earlier this year. Plane was 10 days old and it showed, new sky interior too.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 12:12 pm

A couple weeks ago I was on a new PD Q400 from YTZ to BOS, although it had a noticeable 'new plane smell' (mainly of leather), it was by no means overwhelming. It was nice though.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 12:34 pm

Since we all are bummed out when our "new car smell" slowly disappears from our new cars, I have often seen "new car smell" sprays and other air fresheners of the same. I know little about cleaning planes, but the solvents airlines use to clean carpets, cloth seats, side walls and bulkheads tend to be the same for all? Or does each airline specify which types or brands of industrial cleaners? Also, when an older jet gets outfitted with NEW leather seats, effect or bring back some new plane smell. When United refitted their fleet of 767's there were new seats, new carpet, new bulkheads even new overhead bins (but just in F and C) - I don't recall paying real attention as my eyes were more stimulated than my nose...but when I think of it .. I do think the "new plane smell returned". On those birds, are Y and Y+ been changed to leather?
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 2:35 pm

i was lucky enough to assist to the business class seat installation at the Everett boeing factory on a B777-200 for PIA ....Newer that that it's impossible  
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 2:59 pm

Only experienced it twice, on a 9E CRJ-200 flying from MEM to HSV, back in 2001. Airplane was only in service for one week, and it sure was wonderful.

Also flew a HP A320 back in 2004 from CLE to PHX, airplane was three weeks old but the smell was still there.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 3:00 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 7):

Oddly enough, I haven't flown on SQ for almost 10 years, but I sure hope to in the near future. I've experienced the new cabin smell on a JAL B772 and B763, as well as on Hawaiian Airlines' A330s.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 3:18 pm

I specifically remember a flight I was on where the pilot even mentioned the aircraft was brand new and the smell was amazing!! It was sometime in the mid 90's it was one of the later built MD83's for TWA. Pilot said it was only its 2nd day in revenue service.
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 3:25 pm

Don't know for planes, but the "new car smell" is actually something that is deliberately added by car dealers/manufacturers.

And you can buy it in aerosol spray cans! When car dealers overhaul a second-hand car before handling to new owner, they spray some "new car smell" into it.

Each car manufacturer has its own specific "new car smell". Some time ago, a friend of mine bought a second-hand Volkswagen Golf to a Peugeot car dealer. When he took the car and drove it home, he felt something really weird. "It was very awkward!", - he said, - "I knew I were driving a Volkswagen but it smelt like a new Peugeot!!!"

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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 3:46 pm

Well, in the early 90's I got a tour of Air Canada Cargo's DC-8-71 at YYZ. I was absolutely amazed, upon entering the 20+ year old aircraft (which was in freighter configuration, so basically "empty"), to still smell that "airplane smell" that I had known from other jets. It was quite something. I think that to some extent, that smell stays with an airplane pretty much always.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 4:16 pm

Quoting kiwimex (Reply 4):
I steer completely clear of some marques due to the plastic types they choose to use inside cars.

Go for a Volvo then... they pride themselves on not using the materials that create that "new car smell." While it turns off some, because the smell is so liked, we all know it's healthier for us. When I bought a new S40 a couple of years ago it made me a little sad it didn't have that new car smell, but I loved (and still love) the car all the same.

As for the "new plane smell" I have to admit I love it. Each time I get on one of our new 738s, or commute on one of the new CR7s, it makes me smile ear-to-ear.  
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 4:24 pm

As far as maintenance goes: Skydrol smells the same on a new airplane as it does on an old airplane, there is just less of it!
 
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 5:28 pm

Quoting workhorse (Reply 21):
but it smelt like a new Peugeot!!!"

garlic and snails?
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 5:35 pm

One of the larger components of that smell is the solvents and glues used to hold things (like plastic and carpet) in place.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 5:37 pm

I remember an AC 767-200ER in YUL in 1999, the plane was in service for perhaps 12 years or so but it had that distinctive smell. Perhaps a recent re-fit?

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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 5:41 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 25):
garlic and snails?

yes, sir!

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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 6:11 pm

Frontier just got a new 320. I got on the bird after just a few trips. Oh yes, it smells great! And the cargo bins are so clean, and white. I love the smell of a new plane. Nothing beats it!
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 6:56 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 3):
I love the new plane smell before the stench of the passengers drowns it after a few flights. It's amazing how quickly the smell goes.

One of the reasons new car smell lasts longer and is often more fragrant than new plane smell is that most cars sit out in the sun with their interior plastic baking all day. The planes have more ventilation and less time sitting in the sun doing nothing.

That being said, I am a fan of the new car smell in my Mazda.

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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Sat May 21, 2011 9:00 pm

I didn't know this was nauseating for some people. I'm glad I'm not the only one who enjoys it though. I'm sure I'd like it in a car too.
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RE: Smell Of A Brand New Plane

Wed May 25, 2011 10:21 am

Quoting kiwimex (Reply 4):
If it's the same as "new car smell", often is it chemical fumes coming out of the plastic. Not only is it bad for you, many people (myself included) find it nauseating.

I recall my parents new Mitsubishi in the 80's smelling the same.

Some of the early Japanese imports had a horrible smell. My mother had an early 1970s Toyota Corolla that was very reliable but you almost needed a gas mask to kill the smell when you got in it. It was like a chemical factory. Even after several years the smell never entirely went away.

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