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Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 7:27 am

Back in the day when I worked for United (2007), I was working out of SNA and a fellow flight attendant (she was LAX based) told me that she would sometime commute to work on the SNA-LAX flight operated by United Express. According to mapquest via the roads that is about 41 miles. Does anyone know of any other really short flights operated in the US? Hope everyone is having a good weekend.
 
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 7:55 am

There was something on here a few days ago with a wikipedia page with all kinds of routes, I recommend finding that webpage then searching the shortest routes and find the first one in the US. I'd do it but I'm going to bed now, tired of waiting for the rupture lol
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 7:58 am

Quoting dalalways (Thread starter):
Does anyone know of any other really short flights operated in the US?

ONT-LAX
DTW-FNT
ORD-MKE
SFO-OAK used to be operated as a tag on by Pan-Am and later United I think. Supposedly it didn't even count as a cycle on the airframe since the landing gear were never raised.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 8:04 am

What about: HNL-OGG?
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Sun May 22, 2011 8:16 am

And the CO HOU-IAH "Houston Proud" flights of the 1980's. If you bought a ticket for a IAH-anywhere flight the HOU-IAH and back segment was free. The flights were operated with DC-9's.

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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 8:20 am

Quoting 777klm (Reply 3):
What about: HNL-OGG?

At just over 100 miles, it might make the top 10, barely.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 9:51 am

PHL-BWI on US Airways is the shortest mainline (A319) flight in the lower 48

90 miles (78 nm)
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 10:25 am

UA flew IAD-BWI with a Jetstream 31 in the not so distant past.

CO flew a 73G on LAX-SNA for awhile I believe only in one direction. the plane flew CLE-LAX-SNA-EWR, with SNA-EWR being a redeye. I may be wrong though.

Current short routes operated off the top of my head:

DTW-FNT 56 miles (DL CR2) (flown with DC9 in the past)
ATL-AHN 67 miles (LW CNA)
ORD-MKE 67 miles (AA ERD ER4, UA CR2 CR7)
DEN-COS 73 miles (F9 DH4 E90, UA CR2 CR7) (Was flown with 320 757 DC-10 in the past)
MSN-MKE 74 miles (F9 ER4) (was flown with DC-9 under Midwest)
MSP-RST 76 miles (DL CR2) (flown with DC9 in the past)
SFO-MRY 77 miles (UA EM2) (was flown with 757-200 and A320 at some point)
ATL-MCN 79 miles (LW CNA)
IAH-BPT 79 miles (CO SF3)
ATL-CSG 83 miles (DL CR2)
ORD-SBN 84 miles (UA CR2 CR7 ER4)
LAX-CLD 86 miles (UA EM2)
SFO-SMF 86 miles (UA EM2)
LAX-SBA 89 miles (UA EM2 CR2, AA ERD)
DEN-CYS 90 miles (ZK EM2)
JNU-SIT 95 miles (AS 734)
SEA-EAT 99 miles (QX DH2)



theres plenty more routes under 100 miles.

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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 10:28 am

PHL to ABE normally clocked at 14 minutes takeoff to touchdown.
 
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Sun May 22, 2011 12:00 pm

Hah! Have I really found the shortest part 121 leg? I've flown KVIS - KFAT in an EMB-120, at 31.6nm.

What about SFO-OAK? It's been flown, has it ever been marketed or sold?

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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 2:12 pm

Quoting dalalways (Thread starter):
SNA-LAX flight operated by United Express.

At one point in the past 10 years, UA had a daily A320 on this route as well!
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 4:26 pm

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 7):
ATL-CSG 83 miles (DL CR2)


I fly this route every other week, ex-LGA. The f/a announces that flying time is 19 minutes, once it was 18. When we get to cruising altitude (10,000 ft), the announcement of using portable electronic devices is made. I then time on my watch, and it's usually 5-6 minutes later, when you have to turn devices off because we are on our descent.

Of course, the return flight to ATL is 10-15 mins longer, due to the traffic in ATL.

To add to the below list: Cape Air flights from BOS are pretty short. PVC (45 miles), MVY (70 miles), and ACK (91 miles), according to GCMap. Also, PHL-EWR is flown by both US and CO/UA on DHC-8 (80 miles).

DTW-FNT 56 miles (DL CR2) (flown with DC9 in the past)
ATL-AHN 67 miles (LW CNA)
ORD-MKE 67 miles (AA ERD ER4, UA CR2 CR7)
DEN-COS 73 miles (F9 DH4 E90, UA CR2 CR7) (Was flown with 320 757 DC-10 in the past)
MSN-MKE 74 miles (F9 ER4) (was flown with DC-9 under Midwest)
MSP-RST 76 miles (DL CR2) (flown with DC9 in the past)
SFO-MRY 77 miles (UA EM2) (was flown with 757-200 and A320 at some point)
ATL-MCN 79 miles (LW CNA)
IAH-BPT 79 miles (CO SF3)
ATL-CSG 83 miles (DL CR2)
ORD-SBN 84 miles (UA CR2 CR7 ER4)
LAX-CLD 86 miles (UA EM2)
SFO-SMF 86 miles (UA EM2)
LAX-SBA 89 miles (UA EM2 CR2, AA ERD)
DEN-CYS 90 miles (ZK EM2)
JNU-SIT 95 miles (AS 734)
SEA-EAT 99 miles (QX DH2)
 
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 6:00 pm

Quoting 777klm (Reply 3):
What about: HNL-OGG?

Not to mention

MKK–LNY (28.4 miles)
MKK–JHM (30.6 miles)
MKK–OGG (46.1 miles)
HNL–MKK (54.6 miles)
HNL–LNY (72.5 miles)
OGG–KOA (84 miles)

among other inter-island flights in Hawaii. These are all active routes flown by Island Air.
 
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 6:55 pm

UAx operates MGW-CKB (to/from IAD). As per GCM, it is 25NM (28SM). I was going to fly that route, but my plane went mechanical and I had to return to Canada instead.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Sun May 22, 2011 8:07 pm

Are we talking currently operated flights or just short flights in general? I remember taking the DAY-CVG route quite a few times when I worked for OH. It was a nice way to get down to CVG for training, uniforms, stopover store, etc.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Mon May 23, 2011 4:38 am

What about any of the USAir Express flights from PHL-NYC area airports, PHL-MDT, or PHL-ABE ?

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Mon May 23, 2011 5:50 am

The route ceased sometime in the 90's or early 2000's, but .....

Commutair used to run USAir Express Beech 1900's

PLB-BTV 20 mi
 
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Tue May 24, 2011 2:19 am

Quoting B595 (Reply 16):
The route ceased sometime in the 90's or early 2000's

There were some real good ones back then... TPA-SRQ on a CO B1900 for instance, and also lots of examples of "too much plane" for a short route. Used to absolutely love getting the 752 on ATL-BNA.

My personal shortest was ANC-ENA, Era Aviation dash 8. 59 miles.
 
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Tue May 24, 2011 4:41 am

Colgan used to fly BUF-ROC as US Express. A mere 55 miles!
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Tue May 24, 2011 7:20 am

The PLB-BTV flights were probably driven more by operational considerations than any market to speak of. Commutair had a crew base at PLB at the time and so several B1900's repositioned from BTV to PLB for the overnight and then repositioned back to BTV very early in the morning, ~6am. But even though they were primarily repositioning flights they were still in the schedule and you could buy a ticket on them. And I'm guessing Plattsburgh AFB generated a steady trickle of passengers for these flights before it closed in '95.
 
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Tue May 24, 2011 12:49 pm

One short route that was recently discontinued was XJ's TOL-DTW flight w/Saabs; roughly 48 miles. One can spend more time taxiing at DTW than in the air.
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Tue May 24, 2011 1:16 pm

Also:
SPB-SSB (St. Thomas to St. Croix) : 44 mi. - harbor-to-harbor service offered by Seaborne Airlines, using seaplanes (of course)

STT-SJU (St. Thomas to San Juan): 68 mi. - service offered by American Eagle and Cape Air. Occasionally, American flies the route using a 757 with continuing service to mainland US.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Wed May 25, 2011 5:16 am

Quoting RamblinMan (Reply 17):
There were some real good ones back then...

Yes, the glory days of point-to-point commuter ops....


Air New England (from the November 15, 1979 route map)

WVL-AUG: 14nm


Some others:

Brockway Air (1980s) (B1900 or F27)

OGS-MSS: 31nm
POU-HPN: 34nm
PLB-SLK: 34nm


Air Vermont (1980s) (probably Twin Otter or Shorts 330)

BTV-MVL 23nm
MVL-EFK 27nm


Air New England

BTV-MPV 30nm
HYA-ACK 27nm


Gulfstream International currently flies

OLF-GGW 42nm
 
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Wed May 25, 2011 8:28 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
SFO-OAK used to be operated as a tag on by Pan-Am and later United I think.

I can't recall Pan Am operating SFO-OAK but several other carriers (in addition to UA) did, including TWA, American and Hughes Airwest.
 
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Wed May 25, 2011 1:54 pm

Continental had a dc-9 ply IAH-HOU for a short while.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Wed May 25, 2011 3:06 pm

PAPG-PAWG (Petersburg to Wrangell) In Alaska is 27 NM direct. AS operates the Milkrun with those stops.
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Wed May 25, 2011 3:24 pm

In the 70's, National Airlines flew a DC-10 PBI-MIA, 62 miles (54 nm)
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Wed May 25, 2011 5:44 pm

I believe that Mesaba used to operate BMI-PIA as part of a triangle routing with an Avro, flying all of 43 miles.
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Wed May 25, 2011 6:43 pm

I think I have you all beat:

Horizon Air operates a Q400 on PUW-LWS. GCMap has that at 26 miles. It's part of a shared SEA-PUW-LWS-SEA/BOI routing, but tickets can be purchased on just the PUW-LWS segment. I've flown it a few times; it's almost humorous.
 
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Wed May 25, 2011 6:54 pm

Oh, and both DL and EA flew FLL-MIA. That's 21 miles!
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Wed May 25, 2011 7:48 pm

QX operates PUW-LWS, which is just under 30 miles. It's a tag-on from SEA, but they do sell this route, and also offer connections in LWS to BOI.
 
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Wed May 25, 2011 10:40 pm

Quoting rwSEA (Reply 30):
QX operates PUW-LWS, which is just under 30 miles. It's a tag-on from SEA, but they do sell this route, and also offer connections in LWS to BOI.

That sounds awfully like what I wrote...  
 
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RE: Shortest US Commercial Routes

Thu May 26, 2011 5:25 am

Quoting Flybaurlax (Reply 25):
PAPG-PAWG (Petersburg to Wrangell) In Alaska is 27 NM direct. AS operates the Milkrun with those stops.

It's been a few years since I've been on this flight, but I remember it being quite a memorable experience to be up in the air for such a short time in a 734. Considering the flight never gets above 10,000 feet; and in fact usually stays below 6,000, you spend the whole time looking up at the mountains. It's a very cool experience, and is definitely a flight I would recommend to anyone looking for one of the most amazing flights in the world.
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