flyboy80
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SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:23 am

I'm not sure how long it's been now since United Express, operated by Skywest, flights have been restricted to United Airlines employees and pilots only. Possibly stations employees can still fly them as well, but I know that for the airlines which have, in the past, established cabin reciprocol jumpseat agreements with Skywest Airlines, the privilleges were initially labled as suspended, and have since been completely non-existant. I have heard however that Skywest FA's still have the ability to fly in available cabin seats with the respective carriers which they've established agreements, even though they (included in this case my airline) cannot travel on their flights operated in the UA system, even though my airline has a cabin seat agreement with UA.

Does anyone know if United Express flights operated by Skywest will be open to OAL FA cabin seat agreements once again in the future, and why they stopped the program?
 
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:32 am

Because UA was losing money on Cabin Jumpers and wanted to make sure they got their blood from the employees. I have been trying to get an answer for my company from a contact at UA but no luck. Hopefully it will reopen soon. I cannot even hop on my sister company anymore. That is how stingy UA is being.
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:43 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 1):



I'm not sure that I follow. How are they loosing money on the program? Much more frugal carriers have pretty generous cabin agreements. Even station agreements which are much sweeter than trying to buy an ID90.

I always thought it was a "You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours" philosophy.
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:53 am

I believe he's being sarcastic, basically to the extent that there has been no clear answer and your guess is as good as mine...

maybe this thread may shed light on this mystery...
 
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:09 am

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 3):
I believe he's being sarcastic, basically to the extent that there has been no clear answer and your guess is as good as mine...

maybe this thread may shed light on this mystery...

The pooh will be thrown in short order. It's a little late now but maybe tomorrow. Many a heated arguments have grown from this whole SkyWest thing. There is one UA pilot that is a member on here (can't think of his name right now) and he usually doesn't have the nicest things to say about them 
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:24 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 2):
Even station agreements which are much sweeter than trying to buy an ID90.

I don't know how the station agreements work at your carrier but at mine its almost easier to just buy an ID90 or ZED. We have to track down our manager, beg him to write a letter to the station manager of the carrier we want to fly on, hope that the station manager of the carrier we want to fly on gets the letter and actually submits the form for the NRSA tickets, we then wait a few days, and have to track down the station manager of the carrier we want to fly on to get the passes. I have no sympathy whatsoever for F/As who simply walk up to the gate of the carrier they want to fly on at least 30 minutes prior to departure, fill out a small form, and get on if there is a seat available. I'm not sure why ground crews always get the short end of the stick when it comes to travel benefits.
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:33 am

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 5):
I have no sympathy whatsoever for F/As who simply walk up to the gate of the carrier they want to fly on at least 30 minutes prior to departure, fill out a small form, and get on if there is a seat available. I'm not sure why ground crews always get the short end of the stick when it comes to travel benefits.

It's just a benefit of the job, kind of like "station" agreements that some stations receive that CREW aren't privy to. DO you also have a problem with pilots walking up and getting on or is it just FA's that bother you? Remember, with pilots they can usually (though not always) occupy the FD jumpseat, but FA's can ONLY 99% of the time, occupy an open cabin seat, they're the very LAST in boarding priority and it can be very difficult to get on so it's not always as easy as "simply walk(ing) up". This week it took me 14hrs to get from ORD-LAX trying to utilize these same agreements but I don't have time to wait for the pass bureau to issue me a pass.
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:33 am

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 5):
I'm not sure why ground crews always get the short end of the stick when it comes to travel benefits.

because they are intended to be used for commuting, and there is a level of professional courtesy which is extended between the workgroups, there is nothing wrong with increasing the number of qualified persons onboard a flight in the advent of an emergency situation.

As far as Skywest is concerned, I think they do a great job once on the aircraft. Always clean, FAs always seems well trained and attentive- professional all around. Their station operations are absolutely miserable, and I hate dealing with thier agents (I'm so sorry to say that btw) but is because of experiences I've incurred with them.
 
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RE: SkyWest Cabin Seat Agreements (FAs)

Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:20 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 4):
The pooh will be thrown in short order. It's a little late now but maybe tomorrow. Many a heated arguments have grown from this whole SkyWest thing. There is one UA pilot that is a member on here (can't think of his name right now) and he usually doesn't have the nicest things to say about them


He doesn't have nice things to say about anyone, really. Of course, the union rhetoric he spews is presented as cold, hard fact, when it's really just partially true.
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