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World's Longest Scheduled Routes By Aircraft Type

Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:05 pm

Hello everyone, I am a long time reader but this is my first thread! I have had read your expertise for many years & now I ask for more. I was hoping we could do a mini-project here.

Now of course this has been discussed on here before but since many of the threads are a few years old I thought some updating would be good. Also while there are specific threads for longest A330 route or longest Boeing 747 route, I have not found one that lists all the A+B aircraft.

Criteria:
1) Regularly scheduled service, no charter or ferry flights
--> so the "Super Ranger" 777-200ER flight from SEA-KUL over the Atlantic does not count
2) If discontinued, please list & note as such
--> BKK-JFK, TG793, 7539 nm, A345, discontinued
3) Let's list configurations where possible

Here is what I have compiled so far from Airliners Forums, Wikipedia, Planespotters & various airline websites;

Aircraft, Route, Airline, Distance, Total PAX (Configuration)
A318, JFK-LCY, BA, 3017 nm, 32 (32C) note – all business class
A318, CDG-SVO, AF, 1329 nm, 106 (34C72Y)
A319, LIM-MEX, TA, 2285 nm, 124 (12C112Y)
A320, BOS-OAK, SA)">B6, 2341 nm, 150 (150Y)
A321, LHR-IKA, BD, 2393 nm, 179 (31C148Y)
A332, MAD-EZE, UX, 5433 nm, 299 (299Y)
A333, FRA-SEA, LH, 4439 nm, 221 (8F48C165Y)
A342, AMM-ORD, RJ, 5419 nm, 254 (24C230Y)
A343, JNB-JFK, SA, 6925 nm, 253 (38C215Y)
A345, EWR-SIN, SQ, 8285 nm, 100 (100C) note – all business class
A345, BKK-LAX, TG , 7186 nm, 216 (60C42W114Y)
A346, SYD-AUH, EY,455, 6510 nm, 286 (12F30C244Y)
A380, LAX-MEL, QF, 6883 nm, 450 (14F72C32W332Y)
B736, unknown
B737, AMS-HOU, KL, 4369 nm, 44 (44C) note – all business class
B738, PTY-EZE, CM, 2879 nm, 155 (14C141Y)
B739, unknown
B744, ORD-HKG, UA, 6772 nm, 374 (12F52C70W240Y)
B74E, SYD-DFW, QF, 7454 nm, 307 (14F66C40K187Y)
B752, BSB-ATL, DL, 3623 nm, 174 (16C158Y)
B753, unknown
B762, unknown (767-200ER)
B763, unknown (767-300ER)
B764, unknown
B77E, EWR-HKG, CO/UA, 7009 nm, 276 (50F226Y)
B77L, JNB-ATL, DL, 7334 nm, 269 (45J36Y+188Y)
B77W, JFK-HKG, CX, 7014 nm, 301 (6F57J238Y)

Now I know there must be mistakes so that's where I need your collective wisdom. By the way I did not list EK's B77W flight DXB-LAX because I do not know what configuration they use. From my understanding there is a payload concession made on this route. If anyone knows please list.

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Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:22 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
A332, MAD-EZE, UX, 5433 nm, 299 (299Y)

QF operates the A332 AKL-LAX, 5652 nm.
 
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Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:30 pm

For the A319, Qatar Airways beat TA by a long way...not sure if they've upgraded it to A330 yet, but it was certainly operating with 319 last year.

A319, DOH-BCN, QR, 3024 nm, 110 (08J102Y)  
A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A346, 732, 733, 736, 738, 744, 752, 762, 763, 772, 77L, 77W, CRJ700, MD80
 
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Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:33 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 1):
QF operates the A332 AKL-LAX, 5652 nm.

Thanks Viscount724 & thanks ETOPS for helping make this route possible!
Any idea what configuration QF uses? According to seatguru, they have 2 international versions for the A332. One has 237 seats (36C201Y) & one has 235 seats (36C199Y)
 
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RE: World's Longest Scheduled Routes By Aircraft T

Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:41 pm

There is a large pretty detailed list here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sto...y_scheduled_.28by_aircraft_type.29

Of course its wikipedia so it can be wrong... Hope it helps! 
 
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Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:03 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
B737, AMS-HOU, KL, 4369 nm, 44 (44C) note – all business class
B738, PTY-EZE, CM, 2879 nm, 155 (14C141Y)

Keep in mind that the PrivatAir service AMS-IAH (not HOU) is a BBJ1. Although based on the 737-700, it has several additional fuel tanks in the cargo compartment and other structural differences so can't be compared with the standard 737-700 in terms of range. That service ends later this year (late October I believe). KL is replacing it with their own A330-200 operating alongside the current daily 744 combi.

If you were going to consider the BBJ1 as a 737-700, you would also have to include the 737-800-based BBJ2 routes operated by PrivatAir for LH and LX. For example:

LH FRA-PNQ (Pune, India) - 3614 nm
LX ZRH-EWR - 3428 nm

Those aircraft also have extra tanks and and other BBJ structural differences with much longer range than the standard 738.

I'm not sure whether FRA-PNQ is the longest BBJ route operated by PrivatAir for LH. The LX service ZRH-EWR is all-business class (56 seats) but the various routes operated for LH are now 2-class with 32 J and 60 Y.

As a sidenote, the code for the 737-700 is 73G, not 737 which is a generic code for all 737 models.
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:03 am

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
A333, FRA-SEA, LH, 4439 nm, 221 (8F48C165Y)

This one is incorrect.

DL A333's operate LAX-NRT at over 300 miles longer than FRA-SEA. Configuration is 34C/264Y.
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:10 am

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
B763, unknown (767-300ER)

LAX-GRU, DL, 5350nm, 215 (34C/181Y) - discontinued

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
B764, unknown

ATL-SVO, DL, 4675nm, 241 (40C/200Y) - route now operated by different aircraft type
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:15 am

Sorry for my multiple replies but I keep catching some errors, haha.

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
B77W, JFK-HKG, CX, 7014 nm, 301 (6F57J238Y)

This would probably belong to EK, as I'm pretty sure they still operate this type on DXB-SFO

DXB-SFO, EK, 7041nm, 358 (12F/42C/304Y)

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
B77L, JNB-ATL, DL, 7334 nm, 269 (45J36Y+188Y)

ATL-BOM, DL, 7395nm, 278 (45C/233Y) - discontinued
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:08 am

OK now that jonathanxxxx has redirected me here (thanks again) ... ahem ... lets continue, so I did get a lot of that info from the online encyclopedia but there seems to be some discrepancies.
That is what I was hoping A.net could clarify. Here is my revised list:

Consensus Choices:

A300 IKA-BKK W5 2970 nm 251 24J227Y
A318 CDG-SVO AF 1329 nm 106 34C72Y
B734 SEL-BKK SA)">7C 1995 nm *** configuration unknown***
B735 EWR-AUS SA)">CO/UA 1307 nm 114 8F106Y
B739 EWR-SFO SA)">CO/UA 2229 nm 173 20F153Y
B744 ORD-HKG SA)">UA 6772 nm 374 12F52C70W240Y
B74E SYD-DFW QF 7454 nm 307 14F66C40K187Y
B74S IKA-KUL IR 3420 nm 305 22C283Y
B753 SEA-HNL SA)">DL 2326 nm 224 24F200Y
B762 NRT-MEX AM 6086 nm 156 40C116Y
B763 NRT-MEX AM 6086 nm 188 36C152Y
B764 FRA-HOU SA)">CO/UA 4560 nm 235 35F200Y
B772 BKK-BNE TG 3916 nm 309 30C279Y
B773 BKK-ATH TG 4287 nm 270 34C236Y
B77E EWR-HKG SA)">CO/UA 7009 nm 276 50F226Y
B77L JNB-ATL SA)">DL 7334 nm 269 45J36Y+188Y

All Business Class:

A318 JFK-LCY BA 3017 nm 32 32C
A345 EWR-SIN SQ 8285 nm 100 100C
B73G AMS-HOU KL 4369 nm 44 44C
B738 FRA-PNQ LH 3614 nm *** configuration unknown ***

Disputed Routes, which are still active?

A319 LIM-MEX TA 2285 nm 124 12C112Y
A319 DOH-BCN QR 2627 nm 110 8C102Y
A319 ALA-PRG SA Czech Airlines">OK 2545 nm 128 14C114Y

A320 BOS-OAK SA)">B6 2341 nm 150 150Y
A320 OVB-FRA S7 2603 nm 158 8C150Y

A321 LHR-IKA BD 2393 nm 179 31C148Y
A321 PHL-SFO US 2191 nm 183 16F167Y

A332 MAD-EZE UX 5433 nm 299 299Y
A332 AKL-LAX QF 5652 nm 237 36C201Y

A333 FRA-SEA LH 4439 nm 221 8F48C165Y
A333 CHC-KUL D7 4692 nm 377 12P365Y
A333 LAX-NRT SA)">DL 4737 nm 298 34C264Y

A342 AMM-ORD RJ 5419 nm 254 24C230Y
A342 FSA)">CO-EZE AR 6013 nm 249 32C217Y

A343 JNB-JFK SA 6925 nm 253 38C215Y
A343 MNL-LAX PR 6348 nm 264 44C220Y

A346 SYD-AUH EY 6510 nm 286 12F30C244Y
A346 JNB-JFK SA 6925 nm 317 42C275Y
A346 BKK-LAX TG 7186 nm 216 60C42W114Y

A380 LAX-MEL QF 6883 nm 450 14F72C32W332Y

B73G POA-PTY CM 2847 nm 124 12C112Y

B738 PTY-EZE CM 2879 nm 155 14C141Y
B738 MVD-PTY CM 2941 nm 155 14C141Y

B752 BSB-ATL SA)">DL 3623 nm 174 16C158Y
B752 TXL-EWR SA)">CO/UA 3458 nm 175 16F159Y

B77W JFK-HKG CX 7014 nm 301 6F57C238Y
B77W DXB-LAX EK 7246 nm

UNKNOWN:

No info for A310s seems to be out there & does anyone still fly the original Boeing 767s anymore (the non-ERs) ?

DISCONTINUED:

B763, LAX-GRU, SA)">DL, 5350nm, 215 (34C/181Y) - discontinued
B764, ATL-SVO, SA)">DL, 4675nm, 241 (40C/200Y) - route now operated by different aircraft type
B77L, ATL-BOM, SA)">DL, 7395nm, 278 (45C/233Y) - discontinued

Thanks for the info all. Keep them coming!



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 8):
DXB-SFO, EK, 7041nm, 358 (12F/42C/304Y)


The infamous online encyclopedia lists EK as also doing DXB-LAX with the 77W, that seemed odd to me. Transpac787, are you sure that this is the configuration used by EK on their SFO route? I heard there were major payload concessions.

[Edited 2011-06-17 22:11:20]
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:13 am

Aeroflot's Hurghada-Luanda segment of their once weekly SVO-HRG-LAD flight (operated by A320) is also up there at 2464nm
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:43 am

Quoting runway24r (Reply 2):

For the A319, Qatar Airways beat TA by a long way...not sure if they've upgraded it to A330 yet, but it was certainly operating with 319 last year.

A319, DOH-BCN, QR, 3024 nm, 110 (08J102Y)

So far as I know, that is an A332 for all flights now. They still serve STR though which, at 2,426nm, is now shorter than AF's longest which is CDG-SSG at 2,727nm. Similarly to the 737BBJs the A319-100LR is a separate sub-type to the basic 100 model.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
A318 CDG-SVO AF 1329 nm 106 34C72Y

I didn't think this aircraft still flew the route now?

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
B735 EWR-AUS SA)">CO/UA 1307 nm 114 8F106Y

B735 RIX-TAS BT 1,970nm

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
B753 SEA-HNL SA)">DL 2326 nm 224 24F200Y

B753 IAH-ANC UA 2,838nm

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
A321 LHR-IKA BD 2393 nm 179 31C148Y

Now operates via TBS both ways due to the fuel embargo at IKA.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
B73G POA-PTY CM 2847 nm 124 12C112Y

B73G LAD-DXB DT 3,198nm


Others I think may be the longest:

A313 TAS-MAD HY 3,212nm
B733 RIX-DYU BT 2,072nm
B736 YOW-YVR WS 1,923nm
D1C DAC-FCO BG 3,959nm
M11 AMS-PTY KL 4,761nm


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Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:16 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
B73G LAD-DXB DT 3,198nm

Are you sure that TAAG operates Luanda-Dubai with B737-700s? According to their website they fly it with B777-200s.
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:03 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Thread starter):
B739, unknown

Back in the days when AS flew into IAD (rather than DCA) they flew non-ER 739s several days a week at 2299 sm.
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:25 pm

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 12):
Are you sure that TAAG operates Luanda-Dubai with B737-700s? According to their website they fly it with B777-200s.

Both IIRC, when this subject first came up a few months ago I did a dummy booking and found a flight on said equipment.


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Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:52 pm

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 10):
Aeroflot's Hurghada-Luanda segment of their once weekly SVO-HRG-LAD flight (operated by A320) is also up there at 2464nm

   Took a while but this is confirmed, SU 345

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):

So far as I know, that is an A332 for all flights now. They still serve STR though which, at 2,426nm, is now shorter than AF's longest which is CDG-SSG at 2,727nm. Similarly to the 737BBJs the A319-100LR is a separate sub-type to the basic 100 model.

   All confirmed. QR65 to BCN a mix of A332 / A333 while QR937 to STR an A319LR. AF3008 to SSG an A319

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
I didn't think this aircraft still flew the route now?

According to sources, this has not been flown with an A318 recently but the schedule allows for substitution of this type

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
B735 RIX-TAS BT 1,970nm

Conflicting information cites BT742 both as 735 & 733

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
B753 IAH-ANC UA 2,838nm

   Confirmed. Combination of 753 & 752 on UA/CO 407

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
Now operates via TBS both ways due to the fuel embargo at IKA.

   Confirmed that it does not qualify. You are correct that it is no longer a nonstop. BD931 is listed as an A321 with stop in EVN. So we need an A321 long route now.

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 12):
Are you sure that TAAG operates Luanda-Dubai with B737-700s? According to their website they fly it with B777-200s.

   Confirmed that this is indeed operated with a Boeing 777

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 13):
Back in the days when AS flew into IAD (rather than DCA) they flew non-ER 739s several days a week at 2299 sm.

Do they still fly that route? What equipment do they use now.

Thanks for all the info, keep em coming guys!
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:12 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
The infamous online encyclopedia lists EK as also doing DXB-LAX with the 77W, that seemed odd to me.

They do, One daily 777-200LR, and one daily 777-300ER (it does take some payload restrictions), but it is scheduled.

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Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:20 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 15):
Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 13):
Back in the days when AS flew into IAD (rather than DCA) they flew non-ER 739s several days a week at 2299 sm.

Do they still fly that route? What equipment do they use now.

AS has moved their entire operation 25 miles east from IAD to DCA. Both airports are operated by the same authority.

Btw, for a while from September 2001 to January 2002, DCA was closed to all commercial traffic by order of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was during that time that I flew out of IAD on a non-ER 739.
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:22 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 15):
According to sources, this has not been flown with an A318 recently but the schedule allows for substitution of this type

A32S equipment listing presumably.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 15):
Conflicting information cites BT742 both as 735 & 733

BTs 735s and 733s are pretty much interchangeable throughout their network.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 15):
Confirmed that it does not qualify. You are correct that it is no longer a nonstop. BD931 is listed as an A321 with stop in EVN. So we need an A321 long route now.

Ahh switched to EVN now, it was TBS until recently.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 15):
Confirmed that this is indeed operated with a Boeing 777

And down to twice weekly. Seems the third flight still advertised (73G equipment) has now been cut - maybe it wasn't making it non stop often enough.


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Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:29 pm

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 6):
A333, FRA-SEA, LH, 4439 nm, 221 (8F48C165Y)

This one is incorrect.

DL A333's operate LAX-NRT at over 300 miles longer than FRA-SEA. Configuration is 34C/264Y.

DL operates a A332 on LAX-NRT and not a A333
 
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:05 am

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 19):
DL operates a A332 on LAX-NRT and not a A333

No, I'm quite certain it's an A333.

The entire summer season it's operating as an A333, up from the normal A332. Today (18JUN) it was operated by ship 3307 (N807NW). Tomorrow (19JUN) it is scheduled to be operated by ship 3319 (N819NW). Both A333's, as well as the rest of the summer.

See DL283 on FlightAware for the history of the fight, and how it's operated as A333 for quite some time now.
 
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:11 am

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
B764 FRA-HOU SA)">CO/UA 4560 nm 235 35F200Y

To be accurate, this would be FRA-IAH. Though.... depending on what you prefer as the OP, this is the longest *current* route but is not the longest historical route on the 764.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
A333 FRA-SEA LH 4439 nm 221 8F48C165Y
A333 CHC-KUL D7 4692 nm 377 12P365Y
A333 LAX-NRT SA)">DL 4737 nm 298 34C264Y

Unless there is a longer historical route, DL's LAX-NRT is definitely the longest current route.

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
B77W DXB-LAX EK 7246 nm

I only have a passing familiarity with the EK route network so I could be very wrong but I thought this route was 77L only?? Have they run 77W on it also?? I know for sure the DXB-SFO has 77W but I thought LAX was only the LR.
 
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:27 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 21):
Unless there is a longer historical route, DL's LAX-NRT is definitely the longest current route.

LAX-NRT will be surpassed by ZRH-HKT when Edelweiss Air reintroduces the flight this winter on the A333.
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:15 pm

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 21):
I could be very wrong but I thought this route [DXB-LAX] was 77L only?? Have they run 77W on it also?? I know for sure the DXB-SFO has 77W but I thought LAX was only the LR.

You can stay up to date with the world's longest flights here (the list is updated at least monthly):

World's Longest Flights, 2nd Edition (by yeogeo Mar 27 2011 in Aviation Polls)

The fifth longest flight in the world:
"DXBº-LAX 7246nm Emirates ˇ 77Wx7 77Lx7"

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Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:48 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 21):
Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
B77W DXB-LAX EK 7246 nm

I only have a passing familiarity with the EK route network so I could be very wrong but I thought this route was 77L only?? Have they run 77W on it also?? I know for sure the DXB-SFO has 77W but I thought LAX was only the LR.

See Reply 16. One of EK's 2 daily DXB-LAX flights is a 77W, the other is a 77L.
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 9):
All Business Class:

B738 FRA-PNQ LH 3614 nm *** configuration unknown ***

They have started flight with All business class configuration by A319LR.
Currently ,This flight is not "All business class". Privatair is using BBJ2 on this route with mixed configuration.
Privatair has configured their BBJ2 for LH with 24C/30Y in 8 rows of 2-2 C and 10 rows of 3-3 Y.
 
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:28 am

Quoting rajrs (Reply 25):
Privatair has configured their BBJ2 for LH with 24C/30Y

No, it's 32C/60Y according to their website seat map.
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Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:26 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 26):

No, it's 32C/60Y according to their website seat map.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...et%29

Thanks for correction Viscount724.
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:36 am

For non-ER 763s, DL once flew ATL-ANC using one of their domestic 763s, which is 3417 mi.
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