Fuling
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Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:42 am

Hi all,
I was wondering, what routes does QF deploy the 4 class B747-400 configuration? Also I'd like to know what routes the 3 class configuration and the 2 class configuration fly?

Thanks everyone for your help.
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:49 am

Generally,

Four Class:
> QF63/64 SYD-JNB-SYD
> QF1/2 SYD-BKK-LHR-BKK-SYD
> QF29/30 MEL-HKG-LHR-HKG-MEL
> QF9/10 MEL-SIN-LHR-SIN-MEL (when the A380 is not operating it).
> QF93/94 MEL-LAX-MEL (when the A380 is not operating it).
> QF127/128 SYD-HKG-SYD
> QF107/108 SYD-LAX-SYD
> QF17/18 SYD-EZE-SYD

Three Class:
> QF7/8 SYD-DFW-SYD
> QF15/16 BNE-LAX-BNE
> QF5/6 SYD-SIN-FRA-SIN-SYD
> QF21/22 SYD-NRT-SYD
> QF51/52 BNE-SIN-BNE

Two Class:
> Transcontinental: SYD-PER-SYD (but have heard of the other configurations being flown on this route).
* I think there is only one two class aircraft left in the fleet, VH-OJD?

Anyone have any other thoughts to any of the above?

[Edited 2011-07-30 21:01:17]
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:53 am

Quoting Fuling (Thread starter):
I was wondering, what routes does QF deploy the 4 class B747-400 configuration? Also I'd like to know what routes the 3 class configuration and the 2 class configuration fly?

Aircraft are substituted all the time so any 747 can operate any 744 route (I'm excluding the 744ERs)
But basically,
2 class: I think there is only one now, so SYD-PER-SYD
3 class: BNE-LAX-BNE BNE-SIN-BNE SYD-SIN-FRA-SIN-SYD
4 class: the rest of the routes.
 
Fuling
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:28 am

Thanks for that. Its a great help.
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:58 am

Quoting ADDICT4QF (Reply 1):
QF7/8 SYD-DFW-SYD

This flight is sold as three class but is always a 4 class aircraft because it has to be flown by the -ER's, which only come in 4 class... Which means that if you're flying J you can luck out and end up in F with J service.
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:17 am

EZE is generally sold as 3 class also but uses 4 class 744ERs.
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:29 am

Also of note is that the first reconfigured aircraft featuring the A380 three class products of J, W and Y will enter service on the 5th of October. Any idea which route this will go on first? With only nine 744s to receive the upgrade, where are we likely to see them; BNE-LAX, SYD-DFW and SYD-FRA perhaps?
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:03 am

Quoting Fuling (Thread starter):
I was wondering, what routes does QF deploy the 4 class B747-400
Quoting smi0006 (Reply 6):
Also of note is that the first reconfigured aircraft featuring the A380 three class products of J, W and Y will enter service on the 5th of October

Remember that F is being phased out in ALL markets except SYD/MEL to LHR, SIN & LAX and will be covered by the first 12 A380s, all other aircraft will only have J, W & Y.

Of course that's the currently announced plan, who knows after 23 August.

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 6):
With only nine 744s to receive the upgrade, where are we likely to see them; BNE-LAX, SYD-DFW and SYD-FRA perhaps?

Is the first aircraft a B744ER? Assuming it is, my guess is SYD-DFW/EZE/JNB. Then it gets murkey, it'll depend if the 23/8 announcement is a real shift in strategic thinking or just a band-aid job.

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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:14 am

Quoting gemuser (Reply 7):
Is the first aircraft a B744ER? Assuming it is, my guess is SYD-DFW/EZE/JNB. Then it gets murkey, it'll depend if the 23/8 announcement is a real shift in strategic thinking or just a band-aid job.

I thought I'd read BNE-LAX would get the first upgraded aircraft. By that maybe its 1 of the 3 non ERs otherwise I'd of said DFW if it was an ER.

I'd say JNB, FRA, DFW and BNE-LAX would be the main routes for the upgraded 744s once all 9 are done?! EZE as well if it doesn't get cut. Somewhere else once DFW gets a different aircraft. Second SYD-LAX also maybe.
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:09 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 8):
I thought I'd read BNE-LAX would get the first upgraded aircraft. By that maybe its 1 of the 3 non ERs otherwise I'd of said DFW if it was an ER.

That's correct - the current plan is for the first reconfiged aircraft to do BNE-LAX-BNE. However, who knows what may happen after 24AUG11  . Not too sure exactly which tale it will be, but given that it's planned to do BNE-LAX-BNE, could be a non-ER.
 
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RE: Qantas B747-400 Question

Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:25 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 6):
Any idea which route this will go on first? With only nine 744s to receive the upgrade, where are we likely to see them; BNE-LAX, SYD-DFW and SYD-FRA perhaps?
Quoting gemuser (Reply 7):

Is the first aircraft a B744ER? Assuming it is, my guess is SYD-DFW/EZE/JNB. Then it gets murkey, it'll depend if the 23/8 announcement is a real shift in strategic thinking or just a band-aid job.

I have a note in my 744 file, collected from a.net, that the first route is BNE-LAX-BNE commencing 19 OCT 2011. I think the poster mentioned the aircraft, it was one of the 3 744's that was to be done first (S T or U) but I can't remember which one. Of course the 23/8 announcement could throw all the cards up in the air.

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