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Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:23 pm

My family and I will be travelling to Norway in summer 2012, leaving from Montreal, Canada. We need 5 round-trip flight tickets and we will rent a car big enough for 5. As you can guess, I am trying to limit the cost of the trip, by looking at various possible destinations. So far, renting a car in Norway and flying to Norway seems more expensive than flying to say Copenhagen or Hamburg. On the other end, I don't want to end up too far away from Norway, so Northern Germany is probably the farthest I would be willing to get.

So for all the expert travellers out there, what do you suggest? So far, Copenhagen seems to be a good compromise.

Thanks!
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:51 am

Three aspects to keep in mind while renting a car (from Denmark or Germany):
0. make sure you are allowed to take the model into Norway (and Sweden as transiting country).
1. make sure you have "unlimited miles" in your contract, as the drive can be a lengthy one.
2. Ensure that you are allowed to take the car onto a ferry boat (other than just crossing a river or a sound). Some contracts exclude this. While it is possible meanwhile to drive from Hamburg to Oslo using fixed crossings, (especially when having to circumnavigate the ferry route between the island of Fehmarn (Germany) and Rødby Havn (Denmark)) the detour will be a lenghty one. This will add to fuel costs and maybe an extra night per direction.
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Another idea could be to fly into CPH or HAM (on FI ?) and then use DY for onward flights to some airport in Norway, depending on which area you intend to visit.
But is it worth the extra hassle or is it better to take FI to some airport in Norway ?

If you intend to visit Oslo at either the beginning or the end of your trip, you are better off not having a car at hand.
Oslo (and IIRC Bergen, too) are charging you for taking a car into their city.
At least with a car from abroad, one has to register for this service online; automatic reading of your license plate will then charge the appropriate fee to your registered Credit Card.

Quite a number of options ...
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:43 am

You could drive from CPH to MMX across the Oresund Bridge, then up through Sweden to Oslo, which will satisfy the "No Ferries" rule. If renting a car from within Norway, international travel and ferries are generally OK (you won't get very far in coastal Norway without having at least one ferry). Don't forget international borders in Europe are little more than a sign, so crossing by road isn't a problem.

Driving in Norway is fun, but it takes forever to get anywhere. A simple 50km trip can easily take a couple of hours. Factor this in as well as the cost of petrol in Norway (EUR 1.50 per litre when we were there 2 years ago).

Whichever way you go, enjoy your trip to one of the most beautiful countries on earth!
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:26 pm

Have you considered the overnight ferry between Copenhagen and Oslo? A very pleasant trip, even if children are involved, and several options for accomodations for the overnight sailing. Ship docks in downtown Oslo where you can access local tram/bus and local train services until you rent a car for an onward drive. Check out the website for DFDS Seaways.
What areas or cities are you actually planning to visit? Although some regional train services are available, large distances to cover by car can be daunting. I understand from friends who live in Oslo....and lived here in the U.S. as a point of reference....told me petrol is $9.00+ USD a gallon this summer. Hotel rates tend to be on the high-end for European rate comparisons, and food is very expensive so budget day-to-day as you build your trip.
I have been to Norway twice in the last 4 years and it is without question one of the most beautiful countries in the world. Its people are friendly and welcoming, and the whole experience with visiting leaves you with respect and awe for the beautiful landscape, lifestyle and its people.
I would live there in a heartbeat if I could afford it....... but I am blessed to have 2 sets of friends who live in Oslo and Larvik which affords me an opportunity to visit. They in turn, visit the U.S. every other year so we help each other out with living arrangements to reduce expenses.
Keep us posted on your plans. Good Luck.
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P.S. May be pricey, but lots of flying available on Wideroe as an option too....stunning scenery from the air and an awesome airline operation.
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:36 pm

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 3):
petrol is $9.00+ USD a gallon

That isn't that terrible actually. It's about the same in the Netherlands.

But take note: Norway is expensive! When trying to figure out how much you're going to have to spend I recommend overestimating everything so that you won't get too shocked when there.
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:17 pm

Thanks for all the replies!

Quoting HT (Reply 1):
Three aspects to keep in mind while renting a car (from Denmark or Germany):
0. make sure you are allowed to take the model into Norway (and Sweden as transiting country).
1. make sure you have "unlimited miles" in your contract, as the drive can be a lengthy one.
2. Ensure that you are allowed to take the car onto a ferry boat (other than just crossing a river or a sound). Some contracts exclude this. While it is possible meanwhile to drive from Hamburg to Oslo using fixed crossings, (especially when having to circumnavigate the ferry route between the island of Fehmarn (Germany) and Rødby Havn (Denmark)) the detour will be a lenghty one. This will add to fuel costs and maybe an extra night per direction.

Regarding car rental: If I rent a car in Germany or Denmark, would you know which car rental companies actually forbid me to bring the car to Sweden or Norway? I did not read all the fine prints yet, but the general rule seems that any West European country is allowed. Similarly, which car rental companies do not allow ferry boats?

Quoting HT (Reply 1):
Another idea could be to fly into CPH or HAM (on FI ?) and then use DY for onward flights to some airport in Norway, depending on which area you intend to visit.
But is it worth the extra hassle or is it better to take FI to some airport in Norway ?

Yes, I already looked at Icelandair prices, and they are quite cheaper than other carriers. Is there a catch somewhere (besides the fact that the routing is longer and typically has an extra stop)? For example, for something like 5500 $CDN, I could get YUL-BGO r-t for 2 adults and 3 kids.

Regarding accomodation, we are lucky to have friends over there (in BGO, AES, and TRD) so that's why I am more focusing on flight + car for now.

Thanks again!
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:22 pm

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 4):
But take note: Norway is expensive! When trying to figure out how much you're going to have to spend I recommend overestimating everything so that you won't get too shocked when there.

Indeed. This is the land that charged me £20 (USD 32) for 2 x Vodka/Coke and a small bottle of local lager  Wow! Big Mac meal from Mcdonalds = £10 (USD 16), and that's a cheap eat out!
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:49 pm

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 3):
petrol is $9.00+ USD a gallon this summer

Not the place to go on a budget: pint of beer = $10  Wow! ...although having friends there who'll help offset accomodation is fortunate.

Beautiful place, but people in Oslo not that friendly in my experience...

Here's how it was explained to me, by a Norwegian:

Prior to Christmas Eve, 1969, Norwegians were the 'Newfies' of Scandinavia, until the discovery of oil off their coast. When they went from the "poor, dim-witted cousins" to the "suddenly rich overnight", they took the stance of thumbing their noses at the rest of Scandinavia, and by extension, most other foreigners.

If this story is complete BS, then by all means, someone correct me...

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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:06 pm

Quoting FDH (Reply 5):
Yes, I already looked at Icelandair prices, and they are quite cheaper than other carriers. Is there a catch somewhere (besides the fact that the routing is longer and typically has an extra stop)?

The extra stop / transfer at KEF can be a hassle (as, AFAIK, even transferring pax have to go through new security screening), but it also cuts the long-ish flight into two sectors, with the option to stretch legs.
Onboard service is somewhat limited ...

Quoting FDH (Reply 5):
Regarding car rental: If I rent a car in Germany or Denmark, would you know which car rental companies actually forbid me to bring the car to Sweden or Norway? I did not read all the fine prints yet, but the general rule seems that any West European country is allowed. Similarly, which car rental companies do not allow ferry boats?

I checked Hertz for pickup in Germany:
All models can be driven to Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
With CDW or similar is purchased, damages to the car, also when using a ferry (there seems to be no limitation for ferries to Nordic countries). However, there is a paragraph that says, if the car breaks down in a country reached by ferry, transport back to the country where the rental started is on the renter's expense. How this paragraph is interpreted in case of "Norway" which also can be reached (from Germany & Denmark via Sweden) using bridges, is unknown to me.
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:26 pm

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 7):
If this story is complete BS, then by all means, someone correct me...

Most deffinetly bullshit ! But there is alot of misconceptions about Norway and Norwegians going around. Many foreigners think that we Norwegians don't have supermarkets and still hunt for a daily food for instance. Others think that polarbears are walking in every street and some think that the midnightsun is a different sun than the one they see at home ... It's not ...


Norway was by the way, fairly well off before we found oil too. We have many natural resources that we had long before we found oil.

In general it is Sweden that is considered to be the big brother of Scandinavia, then Denmark and then Norway. It's rather our Swedish and Danish neighbours that for several decades has been looking down on Norway. Norwegians have always been far more interested in Sweden and Denmark, it's people, it's culture, politics, their way of life etc, - than the Danes and Swedes have been of Norway and Norwegians. There seems to have been a change in the last few years though.



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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:25 am

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 4):
But take note: Norway is expensive!

Norway can be very expensive, but on the other hand you can find some good value for your money, like I have got some fabulous fish meals in Norway.

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 7):
people in Oslo not that friendly in my experience...

I had the same experience when I visited Oslo with my Irish friend a couple of years ago. It was surprising, I have met really friendly Norwegians but the experience in Oslo was different, not that welcoming. Especially my chatty Irish friend felt uncomfortable, maybe we just met the wrong people and went to the wrong bars.

>Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 7):
If this story is complete BS, then by all means, someone correct me...

In Oslo I felt Finns are not ranked high, but I'll be back!  

I think at least you can say Norwegians are very patriotic. You can sense that when you talk to Norwegians and see Norwegian tourists bringing big balcony flags with them to the holidays.
Anyway, I think Norway is a great travel destination, I definitely want to see more.
 
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:02 pm

Now that we're talking about Norway and the Norwegians: I'm booked to visit TOS next weekend   

How are the Tromsoians, and what is interesting to see ?

Since it's so far up North, is nature already changing colour (and maybe some snow on the tops already ?)

Really looking forward to visit this part of Norway !!!   
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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:53 pm

Quoting MH017 (Reply 11):
I'm booked to visit TOS next weekend   

How are the Tromsoians, and what is interesting to see ?

Ishavskatedralen in Tromsdalen

The Arctic Cathedral (Ishavskatedralen) in Tromsdalen, Norway 11-2009


In the evening consider to head for the SOLID bar located at Storgata, which is Tromsö's main shopping & restaurant street.

In summer it should be possible to get up the hill overlooking Ishavskatralen and the whole of Trmsö.

For more general and specific information look into http://www.destinasjontromso.no/english/index.html

Enjoy Tromsö !

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RE: Trip To Norway - Need Advice

Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:37 am

Thanks a lot for the link and picture, Holger !!!

Mai & I will certainly visit this Katedralen, and hopefully will see some Northern Lights too during the period of darkness  
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