photophil
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Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:01 pm

hello out there,

it is quite likely that I will go on a business trip to Japan (Nagoya) later this year. I already had a look around for possible connections. As I will try to add some days of a private stay in Tokio I will most likely end up with arrival in Nagoya and the departure from Tokio. So far I found some decent connetions from Stockholm:

ARN-FRA-NGO / NRT-FRA-ARN on Lufthansa with A320-A346-A388-A321
ARN-HEL-NGO / NRT-HEL-ARN on Finnair with A319-A333-A333-A319
ARN-PEK-NGO / NRT-PEK-ARN on AirChina with B777-B738-B757-B777

If I want to start here in Linköping (where I live) the selection is very limited:

LPI-AMS-ICN-NGO / NRT-AMS-LPI on KLM+Korean with E190-B744combi-B744-B744combi-E190
LPI-AMS-NRT-NGO / NRT-AMS-LPI on KLM+JapanTransocean with E190-B747combi-B734-B747combi-E190

I really would like to take the first one. Lufthansa seems to have a good service and stuff and this trip will have an A388 in it  
Otherwise the AirChina solution with B777 would be nice as I also had never been on one of these
The first KLM solution would give a nice B744 collection

So what do you think? Which connection would you prefer?

Thaks for your suggestions

PHILIP
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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:37 pm

Quoting photophil (Thread starter):
I really would like to take the first one. Lufthansa seems to have a good service and stuff and this trip will have an A388

Hej,

A388 always sounds good to me and you can't go wrong with Korean, personally not a big fan of KLM 747...

You mean you're flying in J? Choosing AY A333 means a possibility to get a fully flat and a very private J seat, great when travelling alone. If you like I can try to find the dates when the new J-cabin is available. HEL probably provides the smoothist connections for you flying from ARN.

To get a look inside, my first experience of AY A333 J-cabin:
Full Flat Comfort On Holiday Charter: Finnair A333 (by HELyes Apr 20 2011 in Trip Reports)





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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:56 pm

sadly I will only get plain old economy ...  
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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:02 pm

Quoting photophil (Reply 2):
sadly I will only get plain old economy ...

Oh ok, just noticed you mentioned business trip. Economy class on AY A333/343 isn't too bad either, views available on the TR above, took Y-class home. To make your trip feel a bit more business-like you can always visit the Spa at HEL between the flights  
 
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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:40 pm

LH or AY depending where you bank your miles. Both have Y nothing great, nothing bad. KL Y is a notch down, and an extra connection.

CA doesn't fit the same category although I need to suffer them LAX-PEK-MNL.
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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:52 pm

Thanks for the comments so far...

Quoting HELyes (Reply 3):
Oh ok, just noticed you mentioned business trip.

it's out of business reasons but sadly not in business class. I am working at a university. We are happy enough if we have enough money to pay for economy ...

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
CA doesn't fit the same category although I need to suffer them LAX-PEK-MNL.

I more and more tend to LH. I had been on A330 (as AY uses) before. LH would give me the A380   and they are said to have a rather good Economy. Even as being from Germany my last trip on LH is looooooong ago. So I think its time again

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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:24 pm

I've flown all three of those airlines longhaul, and while I am not a huge fan of any of them, Lufthansa is my favorite. I would certainly choose them over Finnair or Air China.

KLM is fine longhaul, but I still think Lufthansa is slightly better.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
CA doesn't fit the same category although I need to suffer them LAX-PEK-MNL.

Why not go via Japan or Hong Kong and save yourself a lot of misery?
 
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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:14 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 6):

I've flown AMS-KIX-AMS and AMS-NRT-AMS many times with KML, both in Y and C class. I find the KL 744 very comfortable even in Y, and on the Asian long-hauls the service and food is great. One advice though: If you fly Tourist Class, don't expect to be fit for a AM meeting when you arrive. It just won't work.

with KLM I mean, not KML

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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:05 pm

Ever thought about flying JL or NH? They will either send you via codeshare flight from ARN to either FRA or CDG and then on their 77W to NRT. From NRT, they offer 'international' connection flights to NGO with great transfer. NRT-NGO (JL53, or NH300x iirc) are usually operated by 77W, fantastic equipment for the 45 minute flight.
On top of that you can also clear immigration in NRT and take a transfer to HND and fly domestically to NGO, with of course more interesting equipment available.

These options are a bit of more flying, but I'm pretty sure that they can offer a good fare to you.
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RE: Looking For Connections Sweden-Japan

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:19 am

I would personaly go for the option with the A380.

You can also go with QR from ARN. Allthough they do not operate to NGO, but they have codeshare with NH.

So you could do ARN-DOH-KIX-NGO // NRT-DOH-ARN . ARN-DOH is A330 and DOH-KIX and NRT-DOH is B777.
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