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Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:20 am

There has been quite a lot of controversy on here about the new Air New Zealand product they have launched on the newly delivered 777-300ER's...

I am travelling to New Zealand for the first time in January and time has come to start looking for flights. From what I understand Air New Zealand operates both East and West bound from LHR to AKL. The 777-200ER operates the route via HKG and the new 777-300ER's operate the westbound route via LAX...

I've not really found any info on what the 777-200ERs are like. From the Air NZ website they look like they are going to have the new "skycoach" cabin fitted on them during the latter half of 2012.

I am tempted to go for the route operated with the 777-200ER, as these aircrafts are currently 9 abreast in economy, from a comfort perspective. But what is the IFE like on these birds and are cabins still quite comfortable being quite an old product?

I've been lucky enough to visit both LA and Hong Kong so the stop over is irrelevent to me...

Air NZ is the airline of choice I would prefer to go with, as the general service and friendliness of the airline looks great, plus as member of Star Alliance I can earn miles on my US Airways Dividend account. But ultimate price will be the deciding factor, if I find a great deal so airlines like SQ, CP, TG or any other one or two stop routes is not an issue.
 
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:38 am

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
I've not really found any info on what the 777-200ERs are like. From the Air NZ website they look like they are going to have the new "skycoach" cabin fitted on them during the latter half of 2012.

Apparently this is on hold pending a review of NZ's long haul operations. Whether the HKG-LHR-LHR sector survives the review is apparently an open question at this time.
 
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:41 am

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
From the Air NZ website they look like they are going to have the new "skycoach" cabin fitted on them during the latter half of 2012.

Which isn't happening at that time anymore. There's a reassessment on the long haul product at the moment.

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
But what is the IFE like on these birds and are cabins still quite comfortable being quite an old product?

The 744s have the same IFE as the 772s - Rockwell Collins. Read my trip report for more about it: Grabbing A Seat Long Haul: NZ2- The Flagship Route (by NZ107 Dec 6 2010 in Trip Reports)
Or one on the NZ 772 itself from another A.Netter: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346 (by PlaneHunter Apr 10 2011 in Trip Reports)


Your choice really. The 77W seat is only 2cm narrower than the 772 but you have a possible 1-2 inches less legroom. If you're tall, it could be wise to stick with the 772. But the IFE and plane (including the likes of mood lighting) are far more advanced in the 77W.
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:42 am

For Economy best to go B772, Y+ maybe best on B77W, J is any long haul aircraft
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:09 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
I am tempted to go for the route operated with the 777-200ER, as these aircrafts are currently 9 abreast in economy, from a comfort perspective. But what is the IFE like on these birds and are cabins still quite comfortable being quite an old product?

I would gladly fly on any 777 with no IFE if it meant avoiding a 10-abreast 777. It's not just the seat width but packing 10 people in the space of 9 means narrower armrests, narrower aisles and an overall much less pleasant environment. Also means more passengers per lavatory and less overhead bin space per passenger.
 
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:23 pm

People on here soooo over exagerate the 10 abreat seating being an issue on the 777. I flew EK IAH-DXB and back and other than a narrower isle, there is no real issue unless you weight 400 lbs. Their amazing IFE more than makes up for having 10 abreat. If NZ has an entertainment system as good as EK's, then do not hesitate flying the 77W of NZ.

Now if the OP weighs 400 lbs, I'd suggest not getting on the 77W... or any commercial aircraft in Y for that matter. If you are that big, it won't make one lick of difference between 9 or 10 abreast or how wide the isle is.
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:36 pm

I did this route last year LHR-HKG-AKL on the 772, aisle seat the whole way and found it perfectly comfortable, no issues at all and the seat pitch was fine, even when the seat in front of me was reclined. The IFE was also acceptable, okay not the best compared to Krisworld or ICE, but there is plenty on it.

My only experience of a 777 with a 10 seat configuration was on EK, since then I try to avoid 10 seat configuartion 777s.

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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:49 pm

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 5):
People on here soooo over exagerate the 10 abreat seating being an issue on the 777. I flew EK IAH-DXB and back and other than a narrower isle, there is no real issue unless you weight 400 lbs. Their amazing IFE more than makes up for having 10 abreat. If NZ has an entertainment system as good as EK's, then do not hesitate flying the 77W of NZ.

Putting 10 people in the space of 9 can't help but be worse. And why subject yourself to 10-abreast when the vast majority of 777 operators have chosen 9-abreast configurations?
 
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:49 pm

I flew the 77W on NZ in May and did not significantly notice any difference in the cabin look or feel due to 10 abreast. The 77W has a "big" feel to it and compares to a 747 in cabin layout. I did select row 57 for the 2 seats and found them very comfortable. The service was excellent so your selection of NZ on either route will be a very pleasant trip. Food and crew were top-notch as were their ground staff on both flights.
I had wanted a window, but not the third person to deal with so rows 57, 58 and 59 were available to pre-select. Convenient to lavs and view from row 57 was unobstructed by wing so a perfect choice. We did not experience any significant difference in turbulence being so far aft of the wing.......a very pleasant ride.
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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:28 am

And on NZ you can use the IFE the moment you take your seat!!!!  

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RE: Air NZ - 772 Or 77W LHR-AKL?

Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:46 pm

I flew on ANZ's 772 from SFO to Auckland a few months ago. Wouldn't have it any other way! The plane was so damn comfortable - it was definitely my favorite flight to date. Seats/IFE/Service were all outstanding.

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