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Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:34 am

Hello guys, I can't find reliable information about this, so please if some of you have first hand info about this, it will be very welcomed.
( Please note that I'm talking about nonstop flights, so that excludes all the flights with tech stops between the initial and final destination ) Thanks in advance !!

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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:58 am

If my memory serves me correct the old TAA had a 727LR model that did non stop SYD to PER - around the 5 hour mark.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:00 pm

Avianca used to fly 727-200 Advanced planes fron Barranquilla to JFK nonstop, over 2000 miles.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:50 pm

This might help:

727 On Trans Ocean Routes (by Airlineguy Oct 25 2001 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:22 pm

Lloyd Aero Boliviano used to fly a 727 nonstop between Panama City, R.P. and Santa Cruz Bolivia.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:24 pm

CO flew GUM-CNS with the 72S for a time
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:27 pm

I seem to remember Northeast having a 727 non-stop from MIA-LAX a long time ago.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:36 pm

AC had a winter service YWG - MBJ using 722s, now with A320s. 2099 nm.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:45 pm

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 7):
AC had a winter service YWG - MBJ using 722s, now with A320s. 2099 nm.

And YYZ-POS, 2197 nm/2528 sm.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:55 pm

AA used to fly 727-200s on ORD-SJU in the late 80s and early 90s. That's 2072 statute miles.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:01 pm

Hi, Gonzalo...

I flew Mexicana a few times, in the mid 80s, on their MEX-SJU (2162 nm ) nonstop, on-board those magnificent 727-264ADV, specially fitted with "Jattos" or rockets, for a full payload performance out of high and hot airports.

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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:20 pm

I don't recall the names, but there was one, maybe 2, carriers that scheduled non-stop transcontinental services with 727-100s in an all-first-class configuration. LA area to NYC area is about 2500 miles.

AC flew some long distance 722 flights, perhaps YVR-YYZ which are > 2000 miles. Also WA/DL flew East Coast - SLC with 722s, also > 200 miles. And finally, didn't MX fly 722s between MEX and NYC area nonstop, distance combined with altitude at MEX?
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:29 pm

Quoting XA744 (Reply 10):
on their MEX-SJU (2162 nm ) nonstop

1879 nm

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 11):
AC flew some long distance 722 flights, perhaps YVR-YYZ which are > 2000 miles

AC's longest domestic B727 route was YUL-YVR, 1994 nm.

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 11):
I don't recall the names, but there was one, maybe 2, carriers that scheduled non-stop transcontinental services with 727-100s in an all-first-class configuration. LA area to NYC area is about 2500 miles.

MGM Grand Air flew the B727-100 JFK-LAX non-stop, 2151 nm.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:14 pm

Quoting azstar (Reply 4):
Lloyd Aero Boliviano used to fly a 727 nonstop between Panama City, R.P. and Santa Cruz Bolivia.

That's 2333 sm.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:15 pm

I was thinking, actually Aerosur VVI-MIA 2782NM, they do put the 727 every now and then instead of the Sharko 762.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:21 pm

PHNL-NTSU is a haul at 2259nm(2600sm) and that was with a bunch of freight on board and aux tanks.

The longest I ever did was BWI-ONT which was 1984nm(2283sm) with just standard fuel set up of 51k and fairly light payload. That was pretty cool, we blocked just over 5 into the wind.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:37 pm

Danish Sterling did flights over the Atlantic I think on a 727, not sure where it stopped enroute though or where to.
Dan-Air used to do some stretches in their 727's also
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:40 pm

There's a good video on YouTube of a Piedmont 727 flying from CLT-SFO back in 1989. From what I read in a thread on here recently, Piedmont had some 727's fitted with extra fuel tanks for transcons from CLT during the '80's.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:04 pm

Quoting 747fan (Reply 17):
There's a good video on YouTube of a Piedmont 727 flying from CLT-SFO back in 1989. From what I read in a thread on here recently, Piedmont had some 727's fitted with extra fuel tanks for transcons from CLT during the '80's.

PI flew CLT-SEA with the B722 which is something like 2280 NM IIRC. Fun departure from CLT on those steamy summer days!
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:55 pm

Toward the end of the 727's days at DL, I flew a couple of SEA-ATL-SEA trips on the 727 (early 2000's). That always seemed like quite a haul for a 727.....long take off roll.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:11 pm

Speaking of Sterling Airways, they also did CPH-LPA non-stop which is a GC distance of 2055NM. Well, sometimes they had to stop in Faro on the way down, sometimes even both ways. But on paper it was non-stop, and on a good day it could do it. Just.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:12 pm

Quoting nutsaboutplanes (Reply 19):
Toward the end of the 727's days at DL, I flew a couple of SEA-ATL-SEA trips on the 72

Delta also flew PDX-ATL nonstop. WA and DL flew PDX-ANC nonstop.
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:45 am

MGM Grand did JFK-LAX, 2475mi with the 727-100.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:52 am

In 1993 I flew on this 727 GYE-SCL-GYE nonstop, a 1936nm flight.


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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:49 am

Didn't a a hijacked TWA 727 once fly from Boston-Paris? I recall reading in an aviation book when I was a kid about the plane being hijacked and the hijackers wanted to fly to Paris, so TWA dispatched a 707 to escort the 727 across the atlantic because the 727 Captain had never done any international flying before and wanted the 707 crew as a safety net.

The longest 727 ride I ever took was Den-Mia on UA back in the 1980s.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:41 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 23):
In 1993 I flew on this 727 GYE-SCL-GYE nonstop, a 1936nm flight.

Ahhh the good old days of LADECO... I flew with them too, but only in their 732, nice airline... many good memories involved      

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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:40 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 24):
Didn't a a hijacked TWA 727 once fly from Boston-Paris? I recall reading in an aviation book when I was a kid about the plane being hijacked and the hijackers wanted to fly to Paris, so TWA dispatched a 707 to escort the 727 across the atlantic because the 727 Captain had never done any international flying before and wanted the 707 crew as a safety net.

That was TWA flight 355 in September 1976, hijacked by Croatian separatists (Croatia was of course then part of Yugoslavia) on a LGA-ORD flight (continuing to TUS). It made 3 stops at Montreal Mirabel (YMX), Gander and Keflavik, before arriving at CDG. About 30 of the 86 passengers were released at Gander. The 707 was sent to Gander to guide it the rest of the way. The hijackers were sent back to the U.S.. One received a life sentence and was only granted parole in 2008 after almost 32 years in prison and was deported to Croatia. The others spent 12 or 13 years in prison.

A few related items on that hijacking. The first one is by a passenger on the flight.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...jid=6MgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2224%2C1960290
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...september%201976&pg=6212%2C4144847
http://books.google.com/books?id=a2p...e&q=twa%20hijacking%201976&f=false
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/nyregion/19parole.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvonko_Bu%C5%A1i%C4%87

Description by a passenger on the flight.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...2/notes-while-being-hijacked/5490/
 
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:39 pm

Viscount724, thanks for the interesting information, i've added you to my RU list.
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RE: Longest Nonstop Routes Served By 727?

Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:57 pm

Wow, those are all pretty long flights (of around 4,000 km). How much fuel do these flights require on a B727 (with those thirsty JT8D-17 engines) compared to - let's say - a 738/320?

What would it be to sit on the last row for this long?

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