musapapaya
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BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:07 pm

Dear all

I am after a bit of advice, we are planning a trip from LHR to LIS and have difficulty choosing who to fly with. The fares for Y class is similar, however, I heard some bad stories about TP on service and reliability. BA's catering has nothing to be desired, just a cookie and a drink, but what about TP? I cannot find any information on their website?

Any comments would be helpful!

cheers
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Hywel
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:54 pm

TP gives a full hot cooked meal on flights from LHR to LIS and vice versa. The catering is much better than BA, plus their choice of wines is better. Why not give them a go? I've flown 4 times and all flights have been punctual and the staff excellent.
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:55 pm

Quoting Hywel (Reply 1):

TP gives a full hot cooked meal on flights from LHR to LIS and vice versa.

Really? All I was given was a the world's most ridiculous salad (consisting of one leaf of cabbage, a slice of cucumber and one cherry tomato) and half a sandwich on the way back. The A319s were immaculately clean, flights were on time, crew was alright.

I'd fly them again and I'd probably prefer them over BA. The crew tends to look more attractive and seem a lot more hospitable - visits to the cockpit, taking photos of the cabin, asking to walk to the not-backlit side of the aircraft to take a picture (parked at an outstand), all no problem. BA crew have invariably denied me everything on my past four flights with them and for that reason alone I'm trying my best to avoid them.

Also, but this might be a subjective impression, it feels a lot more authentic to fly into your holiday destination on the home carrier of the place.
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:14 pm

Quoting something (Reply 2):

let me get this right, as they said no to a cockpit visit (could they have been busy) no to you going to the non backlit side of the plane on the ground (where you might need escorting or there are time restraints) your steering clear of the airline?
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:09 pm

Quoting something (Reply 2):
Also, but this might be a subjective impression, it feels a lot more authentic to fly into your holiday destination on the home carrier of the place.

I have the same exact sentiment. And this applies to any country, bc I know my screenname implies some bias in this case
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:30 pm

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 3):
let me get this right, as they said no to a cockpit visit (could they have been busy) no to you going to the non backlit side of the plane on the ground (where you might need escorting or there are time restraints) your steering clear of the airline?

I got the ''Sir, you can't take any photographs inside the cabin, we're sorry, please put the camera away'' on all four flights. When I asked if it was possible to take a picture of the cockpit after the landing, my request was as well declined. Always for ''security reasons''.

LH pilots will let you sit in the captain's seat and offer to take a picture of you in it, KL are equally accomodating. Never had problems on AF either.

The TP pilots didn't even notice me; the FA opened the cockpit door for me after the landing, I took a few quick shots, thanked the FA, vacated the aircraft, went down the stairs, asked some airport worker at the bottom of the stairs if I could take a picture of the aircraft, he nodded slighty disinterested in my presence, I walked over, took my shots, went to the bus, and not even a single stern look was given. Luckily, I thought, this ridiculous terrorism paranoia hasn't infested all nations (yet).
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:43 am

Quoting something (Reply 2):
All I was given was a the world's most ridiculous salad

I had a hot beef sandwich and a cake on a TP OPO-LGW flight a not so long ago.

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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:17 am

Quoting Hywel (Reply 1):
TP gives a full hot cooked meal on flights from LHR to LIS and vice versa

Sorry, but that is not correct. Hot meals in Y on the LHR route stopped a few years ago, they are only served in C.

Quoting signol (Reply 6):
I had a hot beef sandwich and a cake on a TP OPO-LGW flight a not so long ago.

That was the catering we served until about 6 month ago (changed from full hot meal in a tray) and there were 4
or 5 different fillings for the warm roll


Quoting something (Reply 2):
All I was given was a the world's most ridiculous salad (consisting of one leaf of cabbage, a slice of cucumber and one cherry tomato) and half a sandwich on the way back.

The small salad with a slice of cold meat and cheese is served on flights outside main mealtimes and, yes, many
customers complain - so it might be changing

The catering on the LHR route nowadays is a cold sandwich (filling varies - chicken, turkey, ham, smoked
salmon, tuna...) in a small box together with a fruit smoothie. Bar service is free - with orange, apple and
tomato juices, pepsi, beer, red and white wines and ofcourse water.
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:22 pm

It's such a short flight that I'd take the flight with the best times rather than the nationality.

BA= no catering in Y except drink and biscuit.

TP= Stern nasty service, no real emergency procedure demonstration, and I always remember landing in Lisbon to not Portuguese fado but 'Start me up' by the Rolling Stones. So basically no idea of service whatsoever.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:54 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
BA= no catering in Y except drink and biscuit.

Actually, you will find that on the LIS route they offer a sandwich

Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
TP= Stern nasty service, no real emergency procedure demonstration, and I always remember landing in Lisbon to not Portuguese fado but 'Start me up' by the Rolling Stones. So basically no idea of service whatsoever.

I am genuinely interested in hearing what do you mean with "no real emergency procedure demonstration"??
About the boarding music, it is actually classical music nowadays. What has the boarding music to do with good
or "stern nasty service"?

[Edited 2012-01-04 06:03:14]
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:55 pm

Quoting Hywel (Reply 1):
TP gives a full hot cooked meal on flights from LHR to LIS and vice versa. The catering is much better than BA

- I had a dismal meal, if it could be called that, in Business LIS-LHR earlier in the year and most indifferent crew, I'd take BA and not just because of my username!
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:16 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
no real emergency procedure demonstration

Are you really serious? Please tell me that was sarcasm...thats even sad for a.net standards
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:54 pm

I beg you to avoid TAP. I flew them last year LHR-LIS and it was the worst flight of my life. Check-in was such a mess that people in line in front of me were in tears (literally) cos they thought they were going to miss their flight. I went to the first / business check in and they only let me use that counter cos it was my birthday (!). Otherwise I think I'd still be standing there in T1 to this day. No free range clerks to talk to or get help. Horrible.

Then the flight was late. After an hour's delay, I went to the agent and asked if it would affect my connection. She said the arrival time would not be affected. Sure, you might make up ten or twenty minutes on a long haul with a late departure, but when a short haul is an hour late, the arrival will definitely be late - probably by an hour! I could see her mistake, on her screen it showed scheduled arrival and actual arrival, and she was looking at scheduled. I tried to point this out as politely as possible and she shouted, actually shouted at me, that I didn't know what I was talking about. Wow.

There were some very chavvy kids screaming in the departure lounge, and some other ne'er-do-wells playing music on their phones, just like on a train in Croydon, and no-one told them to behave. Of course they were just as bad on the plane.

Cabin crew were rude and totally didn't care about anything. I asked one of them about connections in LIS and he said he would come back to me, never did - just a way of avoiding the issue.

Meal on board? Half a plastic glass of off-brand cola and a biscuit is not a meal, even for a dieting supermodel.

Oh and the landing at Faro was so frightening, and demonstrated such shoddy airmanship, I am surprised the pilot was ever allowed out of flying school. The aircraft is probably still there, ground crew still waiting for the brakes to cool off enough to turn the plane around.

TAP didn't get a single thing right. You are guaranteeing yourself trouble and stress, to a level not previously thought possible on a short haul flight that doesn't actually (quite) crash. I'll pay for your BA flight if you like. Friends don't let friends fly TAP.
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:11 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
TAP didn't get a single thing right. You are guaranteeing yourself trouble and stress, to a level not previously thought possible on a short haul flight that doesn't actually (quite) crash. I'll pay for your BA flight if you like. Friends don't let friends fly TAP.

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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:16 am

I've flown this route over 30 times, both with BA and TP.
BA- Still don't like the boarding via coach at Terminal 3, Usual Egg and Ham roll, free full bar service.
TP- I like Terminal 1, tho gate nowadays is far. They have introduced brand new menus a couple of months ago, again a sandwich, a fuit juice and a full bar service.

I really tend to go for the cheapest alternative really, or if you collect miles with Star Alliance or OneWorld.
There is not much between them, It's a 2h30m flight, it will take you from A to B.
I've had delays with BA and TP, i've bad good and bad crew with BA and TP.
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:37 pm

Quoting pacifique75 (Reply 7):
Sorry, but that is not correct. Hot meals in Y on the LHR route stopped a few years ago, they are only served in C.

Apologies, I thought the OP was referring to business class.
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:46 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Meal on board? Half a plastic glass of off-brand cola and a biscuit is not a meal, even for a dieting supermodel.

I am sorry, but that is simply not true! You are, obviously, in your right to criticize TAP and the service/product -
however, you should stick to the facts. We used to serve Coca-Cola for many years and now it's Pepsi (not "off-
brand cola as you describe). Also, on the LHR route TAP has NEVER served just a biscuit - through the years it has
changed from a hot meal, to a hot sandwich and nowadays is a cold sandwich. The OP asked for opinions and
ofcourse you can suggest we chooses BA over TAP, but please dont give him false information...
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:07 pm

Quoting Hywel (Reply 15):
Apologies, I thought the OP was referring to business class.

Hywel, no need to apologize! I am glad to hear you had an enjoyable experience flying TAP...
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:14 pm

Thank you vvery much guys!

We booked TAP at the end due to its better schedule and slightly cheaper price. Also, it is an airline which we never tried. To be honest, we have no good feelings on BA due to its inconsistency, so we decided to give TAP a try.

Thank you all again for the input!

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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:22 am

Quoting musapapaya (Reply 18):
To be honest, we have no good feelings on BA due to its inconsistency, so we decided to give TAP a try.

LOL.. so what was the point of asking in the first place??? You always knew you'd book TAP.     
 
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:28 pm

Quoting scrappy27 (Reply 19):
LOL.. so what was the point of asking in the first place??? You always knew you'd book TAP.

hahaha, and we didnt know much about TAP anyway, but well we will give it a try and report back!
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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:56 am

I am as much of a BA fan as I am a TAP fan, so I'd be happy regardless of what airline you book   I hope you enjoy the service our airline is offering and would ask that you please report back to us on how it all went.

Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
no real emergency procedure demonstration

Some sad examples/myths, such as the above, need to go away for once.

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RE: BA Or TP From LHR To LIS?

Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:31 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
TAP didn't get a single thing right. You are guaranteeing yourself trouble and stress, to a level not previously thought possible on a short haul flight that doesn't actually (quite) crash. I'll pay for your BA flight if you like. Friends don't let friends fly TAP.
Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 13):
Dirkou....is that you?

No, but thank you for refreshing the thread so other people can read my post and take heed. Although not, apparently, the OPer (who was just playing games and was never going to fly BA anyway). Well you get what you pay for. Good luck.

Quoting musapapaya (Reply 18):
We booked TAP at the end due to its...cheaper price.
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