AlnessW
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Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:19 am

This first occurred to me when I flew the new UA over spring break. PDX-SFO-BOS, roundtrip.

During the SFO-BOS redeye, I was watching a TV show (The Office) on the overhead monitors of the 752. I noticed that UA obviously censored the show more than usual. Specifically, they censored the word "crack," because it was a drug reference. I was confused by this, because it wasn't censored in the aired version of the episode.

I later found an explanation in the Hemispheres magazine. On the page with IFE info, there was a little footnote that said something along the lines of, "Our programs are censored so that they are appropriate for all audiences."

That made good enough sense to me, but what really surprised me was when I was listening to Channel 7 on the satellite radio. This was UA's 70s channel. One of the songs they played was Labelle's "Lady Marmalade." While the song may be catchy, if you decipher some of the slang and translate the French lyrics, the song is actually quite suggestive and inappropriate. Furthermore, I heard that same song 2-3 times during the 5+ hour flight to BOS!

Therefore, my question is this - How exactly can UA have a problem with one small drug reference, but still be OK with a sexually suggestive song?

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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:17 am

Its just the airline, in this case UA, appearing like they give a s--t about appropriateness, when if fact, as just proven, they don't listen to the lyrics of the songs they offer on their audio..

Dumb ass, if you ask me !
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:36 pm

SQ is also a bit odd in this regard. I remember years back I was flying BNE - SIN and looking forward to catching Superbad, which was listed on the IFE mag. When I tuned into the movie, there was just a sign saying the movie had been censored (the entire movie).

I also noticed The Hangover was heavily censored.

Interestingly enough, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was not censored! Odd indeed.

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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:46 pm

I've noticed on AC's IFE, they don't censor much. I've seen partial nudity a few times in movies on the IFE. Never noticed any words getting blanked out either. They do give a warning before the program or movie that it contains content not appropriate for all audiences.
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:37 pm

Airlines have long edited IFE content so this is nothing new and the level of strictness depends on the airline. While some airlines are more strict than others in regards to the editing of content, the editing of content that meets FCC broadcast standards seems a bit heavy-handed on the part of United.

Quoting AlnessW (Thread starter):
Therefore, my question is this - How exactly can UA have a problem with one small drug reference, but still be OK with a sexually suggestive song?

The music content on UA is pre-recorded content from SiriusXM so you would think that they would also have a say in the music. If they offered live SiriusXM content, then they really could not have much of a say in it. I remember that AirTran blocked the channels on XM that contain "explicit content" but I don't know if JetBlue does the same.

Quoting Airontario (Reply 3):

I've noticed on AC's IFE, they don't censor much. I've seen partial nudity a few times in movies on the IFE. Never noticed any words getting blanked out either. They do give a warning before the program or movie that it contains content not appropriate for all audiences.

Delta's is similar, at least with their Delta On Demand product, as on their older IFE systems, they would show the edited version of movie in coach and the regular version of the movie in Business/First.
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:20 pm

Interesting experiences. Especially with SQ. on EK, I was seated in 3K once, and the man in 2F was watching some random movie, and the people in the movie were having sex. You could see it clear, and I'm 100 percent sure it wasn't porn from his USB, because it said EMIRATES accross the bottom like it sometimes does. It wasn't zoomed in or anything, but you could see her breasts, etc. I think you can imagine it. It was pretty fun to see that on a plane though! Also, once I was watching scream 4 also on EK, and they showed her taking off her shirt and bra, again exposing her breasts! I'm not sure if they forgot to censor the movie, or what, but again an amusing sight. Unfortunately, this time I was in 1K with my mom in 1F, and she thought I was watching porn because my suite doors were open, and she had a clear sight!   very surprising from especially EK! Those were the only occasions where I experienced such a thing on ife, bc it usually is censored, and before scream 4 started, it said that the movie was edited so it can be viewed by all audiences! I'm not sure if those were mistakes, but I guess with SQ having the honeymoon suite, they're trying to not get any couples TOO excited.  

-ek202

Also, I forgot to mention that they do say what the movie is rated, and that it may be innapropriate, but usually censor it!

[Edited 2012-06-27 14:22:40]
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:42 pm

Back in 2002 when I was a measly 12 years old, I flew BA from ORD to LHR. Oone of my friends told me to turn on channel whatever it was. I switched the channel and imagine my surprise when the movie showing was "Monsters Ball." For those of you who have seen this particular movie, you know of the explicit sex scenes. BA didn't censor any of it. Interesting that UA would censor such minor references. Maybe airlines censor material more heavily for programs that will be shown on the overheads vs. PTVs since you can't really change the channel (although you can still change the audio channel). Who knows!
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:28 pm

NZ censored their own safety videos! They took out the part where the obviously gay FA offered his cheek for a kiss from a rugby player after he kissed the female FA. There wasn't even a kiss, just a request but apparently someone with no sense of humor complained.

They also took out the ending scene of the rugby video where "Betty" runs down the aisle naked, running away from the camera. It lasted less than a second, and you really couldn't see anything naughty, but it got censored anyway.

I don't imagine they will do another video with everyone wore body paint instead of clothes. Everyone watched every second of that video every time even though there was nothing exciting to see!

Everything sinks to the lowest common denominator, resulting in super bland everything.
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:47 pm

Not quite censorship, but BA famously edited out VS and Richard Branson from "Casino Royale."
 
AlnessW
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:49 am

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 1):
Its just the airline, in this case UA, appearing like they give a s--t about appropriateness, when if fact, as just proven, they don't listen to the lyrics of the songs they offer on their audio..

Dumb ass, if you ask me !

Absolutely!   

Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
SQ is also a bit odd in this regard.

That's odd, too.

Quoting Airontario (Reply 3):
I've noticed on AC's IFE, they don't censor much.

I guess it depends on the airline:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 4):
Airlines have long edited IFE content so this is nothing new and the level of strictness depends on the airline.

   That would make sense.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 4):
the editing of content that meets FCC broadcast standards seems a bit heavy-handed on the part of United.

That does seem to be the case here.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 4):
The music content on UA is pre-recorded content from SiriusXM so you would think that they would also have a say in the music. If they offered live SiriusXM content, then they really could not have much of a say in it. I remember that AirTran blocked the channels on XM that contain "explicit content" but I don't know if JetBlue does the same.

Thanks for the info!

Quoting fghtngsiouxatc (Reply 6):
Interesting that UA would censor such minor references.

Isn't it?

Quoting fghtngsiouxatc (Reply 6):
Maybe airlines censor material more heavily for programs that will be shown on the overheads vs. PTVs since you can't really change the channel (although you can still change the audio channel). Who knows!

Perhaps that might be a reason.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 7):
NZ censored their own safety videos! They took out the part where the obviously gay FA offered his cheek for a kiss from a rugby player after he kissed the female FA. There wasn't even a kiss, just a request but apparently someone with no sense of humor complained.

...What?   

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 8):
Not quite censorship, but BA famously edited out VS and Richard Branson from "Casino Royale."

  
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:39 pm

I think SV top the list for censoring their IFE... any part of the female body exposed is blacked out/the scene cut/blurred out, made for an interesting experience a couple of years ago on board one of their refitted 777s with AVOD, then again, it's the Saudi culture / law and it's the same reasoning behind why SV don't serve alcohol on board or serve non-halal food
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:17 am

I have flown EK many times and I have noticed they censor their movies... I remember back in 2007, I flew EK from BLR-DXB they censored the scene in "Transformers" where, they pull over and open the bonnet of Bumblebee and Sam checks out Mikaela's bare middle section (I tried to keep this description as PG as possible), another example of censoring was when I was flying DXB-YYZ and I chose to see an Hindi movie called "Dostana". The theme was about homosexuality and in the end the two lead characters (both males) kiss, this scene was censored and I found out about this from a friend who saw it in cinemas.
On the other hand, I was surprised to see they aired "Sucker Punch" where the lead characters (mostly female) dressed in rather revealing dresses during the "dream" sequences.
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AlnessW
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:13 am

Quoting planejamie (Reply 10):
Quoting adityashankar (Reply 11):

Interesting to know, thank you both.
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:53 am

Hi!

First of all I am amazed that some airlines in the US still have drop down TV's. That is cool. I'm not too sure about showing the Office though. Isn't that program kinda aimed at adults. Saying that I don't think I can mention a single US current TV series that is fun for adults and kids. Maybe Lost or something from the History channel or something. Regarding the song I don't know it but didn't you say it was in French or slang or something. Maybe they just figured nowone would understand what they were saying anyway or something.

I'm definitely for censoring movies on flights, even on seat-back screens. I don't think some guy should be watching a sex scene with a 6 year old kid sitting next to him. Maybe in business or first or something where you were in private it would be ok.

Many thanks.

P.
 
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:10 pm

I don't think they should censor movies, they should just give a warning at the start of the movie.
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AlnessW
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RE: Censorship In IFE?

Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:29 pm

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
First of all I am amazed that some airlines in the US still have drop down TV's.

Why?

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
I'm not too sure about showing the Office though. Isn't that program kinda aimed at adults.

Well, there are worse shows they could be playing.

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
Maybe Lost or something from the History channel or something.

   (yawn)

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
Regarding the song I don't know it

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF2otwl4ros
http://www.metrolyrics.com/lady-marmalade-lyrics-patti-labelle.html

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
but didn't you say it was in French or slang or something.

Both, actually. The song contains suggestive language in both slang as well as French.

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
Maybe they just figured nowone would understand what they were saying anyway or something.

Perhaps, but then again, the song is about a prostitute...

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 13):
Maybe in business or first or something where you were in private it would be ok.

Or just bring your own movies and laptop.

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