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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:44 am

Tried the terrible search feature, obviously did not give me much....

That is the link to a one hour forty six plus minute overview of the flight. Pretty long and I admit I did not watch it from start to finish. But, I understand this is longest commercial flight there is at 18+hrs.

Has anyone piloted or been a passenger on this flight? If so what was your experience? My longest flight being 8 hrs I couldn't imagine being in a plane for that long. Do they do anything different on this flight than your average ULH flight? Was it worth it or would you rather fly through a connection?
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:53 am

As far as I know, this flight is operated by a small fleet of A340-500s that are configured in an all business class/first class and without an economy section so I would imagine that the experience wouldn't be as bad as you might think. I am sure there must be someone on here though who has actually taken the flight.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:05 am

I travelled on this flight in 2004 in Executive Economy, back then it still had a 2 class cabin.

It was very comfortable, half empty. 3 meal services and a snack bar...the usual excellent SQ IFE.

Quite a short night and we flew over North America for what seemed like forever!

Flight map initially indicated a flight time around 16 hours but in the end it was almost bang on the scheduled 18.5 hr flight time.

I seem to remember the take off roll lasted about 20 minutes!  
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:10 am

Seeing as the flight is in these seats (which are superb from experience), I wouldn't say it's all bad! I would love to take this flight.

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Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:36 am

I have travelled SIN-EWR, EWR-SIN and LAX-SIN before and all three are in my Top 5 flights of all time. The timing of the flights is great, I usually sleep for about 8-11 hours each way and the rest of the flight you sit back, relax and enjoy the amazing SQ service. You don't see alot out the window though on the USA-Singapore legs as most of the flight is in complete darkness. The "Book the Cook" feature also allows you to select a meal in advance so that's fantastic.

I absolutely love these long flights and they're definitely my first choice when flying PER-LAX/NYC.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:10 am

Quoting Ben175 (Reply 4):
I absolutely love these long flights

Nothing more to add. 
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:23 am

I have flown Premium Economy SIN-LAX and LAX-SIN and would not miss a second to fly this route again if ever it is re-configured into a two-class airplane again.

The uninterrupted flight meant that I could plan what to do with my time onboard - getting as much sleep as I need, watching movies and working at timings when I am most productive, snacking when I want at the service counter at the rear of the aircraft where there is always something delicious.

The 2-3-2 seating plus generous seat pitch meant also that I could get out of my window seat whenever I wanted - easily stepping over the ankles of my neighbour without disturbing him.

It is my understanding that prior to launching the service, SIA had a whole re-think on the service delivery onboard these flights to ensure that passengers avoid the risk of deep-vein thrombosis (DVT) and tailored the passenger experience accordingly. At all times during the flight, cabin attendants are present in the cabin ... and as soon as I woke up, the crew came by to offer water, a drink and snacks. Beyond sitting a little straighter, I had not even moved! That is premium class service and not just premium economy.

Had this service continued with Premium Economy, I would have seen no reason to make a stopover anywhere enroute to North America from Singapore ... getting off and back on the planes, putting oneself through security screening and walking through the airport terminal at timings when the body screams for rest. The only (good) reason for a stopover in airports such as ICN or NRT is the chance to do some photography airside when the weather is good.

Like Ben175, the non-stop service between Singapore and North America ranks right at the top of my experience as a passenger.

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Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:45 am

I flew this a couple years ago. I enjoyed it immensely. Long, yes, but very comfortable. The timing is great. Arrived on-time in EWR and had just an hour and a bit wait for my short hop up to YYZ.

Only downside was the small pre-arrival meal. A hamburger. Blech.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:52 pm

Have flown SQ37 LAX-SIN and similar stage length TG795 LAX-BKK, the former nonstop. Both were really great. Timing was excellent - evening departures, fly in darknees for 16-18 hours and land at dawn. Excellent opportunity to get a full night of sleep when you're ready to sleep, enjoy several meals, do some work and watch a few movies. Early morning arrival timing is great for onward connections. The SQ SIN nonstop A345 is hands down better than the one-stop A380 flight which is timed for LAX-NRT traffic and lands in SIN at about 3:00 AM. The SQ business class seat on A345 was well ahead of TG A345 although I still have a bias for Thai inflight service which I find more attentive and genuine versus the 'Singapore girls' who can be a bit distant.

Off topic but I was on the brand new TG 747 configuration in F from BKK-NRT last week. Phenomenal flight inclusive of cabin configuration, seat layout/functionality and inflight service. (FAs pouring 2000 Dom Perignon at boarding!) Seriously couldn't have been nicer -- was definitiely feeling very spoiled. And the cabin was so new, the inflight manager had to consult the manual on some of the seat functionality I asked about.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:02 pm

I flew this flight last summer in June, and first I have to say that it was the best flight that I have ever been on. At this point the flight had been moved to single class, so we were in business. I would say that its better than most airlines first class.

That being said, it goes by fast. We only flew the EWR-SIN route as we were doing a multi destination routing. But it is timed perfectly. You leave just after 11pm, which gives you time to have another meal (after dinner for most people) and allows you to watch a movie before you go to sleep. Of course there are the lie-flat beds so sleeping is just as it would be at home. I slept 10 hours, with a half hour break for a midnight snack. By the time that I woke up there were 5 hours left. I watched another movie and entertained myself for the rest of the flight.

It lands at 6:30am singapore time. We had a connecting flight, but even for that I felt well rested and could have gone the whole day nicely.

The best part is the difference between takeoff and landing. When we took off from EWR we used pretty much the whole runway, and just after takeoff you could feel how heavy the plane was. On landing though, with only 100 or so people, and little fuel it feels like a feather. The timing also means no congestion delay at either airport pretty much guaranteed.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:26 pm

I have not flown this particular route, but back when Thai was flying their A340-500's from JFK-BKK, that came in around 17.5hrs. Flew in Premium Econ and it was a very pleasant flight. To be honest, I would rather take the 17-18 hour non-stop over the 24-30hr travel time with layovers any day! Yes, it is a long time to be on an airplane, but when you land, you are at your destination, unlike most traditional routes where you have another 3 hour layover and 6 six hours more flying (i.e. EWR-NRT-BKK).

I would love to try out SQ's EWR-SIN though.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:39 pm

Quoting kpitrrat (Thread starter):
My longest flight being 8 hrs I couldn't imagine being in a plane for that long.

The problem is that EWR-SIN is 18 hours flying time. Whether you do it in one flight or two flights, or even three flights - it is still at least that long in an airplane.

As mentioned above - stops and aircraft changes always seem to come at that worst possible time for your body clock.

I've had the 'pleasure' of flying several 20-22 hour US military flights when I was younger. But the 'longest' most tiring flight I ever took was from SUU to CRK with stops at HNL and UAM. It seemed to go on forever.

I would certainly choose a premium service non-stop over a multi-stop if it was available.

The one I'm trying to get on now is QF DFW-BNE - just go to get the credit card away from the wife.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:28 pm

I flew SQ37 a few months ago. It went better than I expected, in that beforehand, I was afraid I'd get 'cabin fever' no matter how good the service/seats were. In reality, the flight was over before I knew it (17hr, 6min flying time).

The entertainment system has plenty to keep oneself occupied, and the seats fold flat for optimal sleeping. Not a lot of service, per se, since the flight leaves after suppertime and passengers would be expected to sleep at least half the flight. There were two meals which were very good, not too heavy. As mentioned above, it makes for a very long night (18 plus hours of darkness), though that was also not a problem. The flight was about 2/3 full.

I did it primarily to fly the 340-500, and to set a new record flight length in my logbook. (My previous record was LAX-HKG on a 744, UA1 in 1998, 15hr, 18min). So, I am not likely to do it again unless I had a compelling reason (or someone else is paying!).

As an aside, since I was in there for leisure, I took advantage of their Singapore Stopover feature where you can book a hotel, get discount vouchers for area attractions and free use of their bus to get around.

Next stop, A380!

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Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:32 pm

Quoting technobie (Reply 10):
I would love to try out SQ's EWR-SIN though.

So would I, but can't non-rev on SQ.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:49 pm

I did the SIN-LAX sector on one occasion with the same A340-500. Flight time was about 16.5 hrs.

Not a bad experience. Left SIN at dinner time so ate, then watched a few movies, took a nice long sleep, and then woke for another movie and meal prior to landing in LA. As it arrives LA around dinner time again, I remember I went home, spent a little time with the family and then off to bed again.

Overall good flight, but not very different that many other long sectors I've flown such as LAX-HKG or LAX-SYD.
I did appreciate is being nonstop, and being able to skip the traditional connection stop over some other airport in Asia.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:57 am

I flew SIN-EWR in Dec 2007 and returned to SIN in Jan 08. I was booked on what was back then Executive Economy but I upgraded to what was back then Raffles Class (SpaceBed).

What a great flight! It was sooo long but I loved it! I got about two sleep cycles, I watched a lot of movies, and the food as usual was great. However, with the poor excuse for IFE that KrisWorld had become today (even the new UA has a much wider selection of movies and TV shows), I wouldn't want to do this flight. Having said that, I can imagine how nice it would be to sleep in the "new" J-class seats (they've been around for about 5 years now) vs. the old SpaceBeds.

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Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:10 am

Last time I flew SIN-EWR and back on SQ was a couple of years ago in its all business configuration. It beats the hell out of stopping in NRT or HKG (although I do like HKG). As far as I am concerned it is by far the best way to get from SIN to the north east US.

The only drawback is that its relatively late arrival, about 6pm, makes some same day connections a little tricky. It's too bad it doesn't leave SIN 2-3h earlier.

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